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Post by spitthedog on Dec 8, 2020 22:57:13 GMT
Only seen it once, but it looked pretty tame
Good save, or bad penalty?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 8, 2020 22:58:34 GMT
Lazy penalty and an easy save.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 8, 2020 22:58:56 GMT
Definition of a poor penalty.
No power.
Keepers right.
Perfect height.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 8, 2020 23:00:08 GMT
On the Chadwick-Higginbotham scale I’d say it was about a 5.......
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Dec 8, 2020 23:01:37 GMT
Total shite. He didn’t even try to deceive the keeper. Hit it waist height to his favoured right hand side. Keeper clean caught it. Practically the kind of kick the under 14 coach gives to warm up the keeper before junior matches.
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Post by mickstupp on Dec 8, 2020 23:02:45 GMT
If the keeper dives the other way it’s a good pen. I’m no Vokes fan. He’s toss, and it’s cost us tonight, but as I’ve said earlier these things are fine margins.
The lump tucks it away and, as our only current standing forward, he’s got a bit of confidence for the next few games.
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Post by raythesailor on Dec 8, 2020 23:02:46 GMT
It was bloody awful.
Do we have designated penalty takers ?
Do they practice them ?
Penalties at both ends of the pitch have been a nightmare at Stoke for years.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 8, 2020 23:03:12 GMT
Total shite. He didn’t even try to deceive the keeper. Hit it waist height to his favoured right hand side. Keeper clean caught it. Practically the kind of kick the under 14 coach gives to warm up the keeper before junior matches. Exactly the type of penalty an out of form/low on confidence striker takes. I still say Powell should take some responsibility, as a senior player and a damn good penalty taker no one should have been getting that ball off him.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 23:03:56 GMT
Sorry for the language but it’s a fucking appalling penalty!!
Just look at the pitch, it’s not stop rain, the ball is sliding along the floor easily. On that surface you slot it hard and low in the corner. No need lift the bastard thing!! That’s a professional footballer doing that! If I did that at 5 a side I would get a boot up my arse and called wank!!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 8, 2020 23:05:30 GMT
It was horrendous but the worst thing of all is that it was near identical to his two previous misses v Hull and Crawley.
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Post by swampySCFC on Dec 8, 2020 23:06:57 GMT
Hes a fucking has been. Twat cant even score from a free shot. Weve had some great strikers in recent years but he sure isnt one of them. Get rid
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 8, 2020 23:07:25 GMT
If the keeper dives the other way it’s a good pen. I’m no Vokes fan. He’s toss, and it’s cost us tonight, but as I’ve said earlier these things are fine margins. The lump tucks it away and, as our only current standing forward, he’s got a bit of confidence for the next few games. He was never going to score though was he? I think that is why I'm so mad. As he was stood waiting to take it my wife was getting excited shouting my little lad down to watch. I told her not to bother, that Vokes would miss and we'd go on to lose 2-1. She said I was a miserable twat and that she was sick of me. She's not spoke to me since she saw the final score!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 8, 2020 23:07:51 GMT
Terrible penalty and okay the rebound flies past him but his complete lack of reaction to it, where he doesn't even flinch, tells you all you need to know about him. Stick a fork in him, he's done. Another just here for his pension and to achieve fuck all.
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Dec 8, 2020 23:08:04 GMT
Total shite. He didn’t even try to deceive the keeper. Hit it waist height to his favoured right hand side. Keeper clean caught it. Practically the kind of kick the under 14 coach gives to warm up the keeper before junior matches. Exactly the type of penalty and out of form/low on confidence striker takes. I still say Powell should take some responsibility, as a senior player and a damn good penalty taker no one should have been getting that ball off him..... But who is our main penalty taker? Is it Clucas? He’s usually the set piece man when fit?? Christ what we’d do for a Baines or boring Milner...
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Post by mickstupp on Dec 8, 2020 23:08:51 GMT
If the keeper dives the other way it’s a good pen. I’m no Vokes fan. He’s toss, and it’s cost us tonight, but as I’ve said earlier these things are fine margins. The lump tucks it away and, as our only current standing forward, he’s got a bit of confidence for the next few games. He was never going to score though was he? I think that is why I'm so mad. As he was stood waiting to take it my wife was getting excited shouting my little lad down to watch. I told her not to bother, that Vokes would miss and we'd go on to lose 2-1. She said I was a miserable twat and that she was sick of me. She's not spoke to me since she saw the final score! 😂😂 yes I was surprised Powell didn’t take it I must admit.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 8, 2020 23:08:52 GMT
If the keeper dives the other way it’s a good pen. I’m no Vokes fan. He’s toss, and it’s cost us tonight, but as I’ve said earlier these things are fine margins. The lump tucks it away and, as our only current standing forward, he’s got a bit of confidence for the next few games. He was never going to score though was he? I think that is why I'm so mad. As he was stood waiting to take it my wife was getting excited shouting my little lad down to watch. I told her not to bother, that Vokes would miss and we'd go on to lose 2-1. She said I was a miserable twat and that she was sick of me. She's not spoke to me since she saw the final score! It was a bizarre feeling, like you I was 100% sure he was going to miss. I imagine most of us were.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 8, 2020 23:08:59 GMT
Exactly the type of penalty and out of form/low on confidence striker takes. I still say Powell should take some responsibility, as a senior player and a damn good penalty taker no one should have been getting that ball off him..... But who is our main penalty taker? Is it Clucas? He’s usually the set piece man when fit?? Christ what we’d do for a Baines or boring Milner... I imagine Campbell would have taken it if he wasn’t injured.....
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Post by BristolMick on Dec 8, 2020 23:09:00 GMT
If the keeper dives the other way it’s a good pen. I’m no Vokes fan. He’s toss, and it’s cost us tonight, but as I’ve said earlier these things are fine margins. The lump tucks it away and, as our only current standing forward, he’s got a bit of confidence for the next few games. Professional penalty takers should know all about which way the keeper they are up against likes to dive, do you reckon Vokes had done his pre match research just in case he had his big moment? My guess would be... nah, can’t be arsed with that bollox, I’ll just pick up my £12k a week for least possible effort. BM
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Dec 8, 2020 23:10:11 GMT
If the keeper dives the other way it’s a good pen. I’m no Vokes fan. He’s toss, and it’s cost us tonight, but as I’ve said earlier these things are fine margins. The lump tucks it away and, as our only current standing forward, he’s got a bit of confidence for the next few games. Keeper didn’t need to dive the other way, he could clearly see Vokes shaping to hit to the right. He probably thought “thank fuck that was shite”
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Post by mickstupp on Dec 8, 2020 23:11:00 GMT
If the keeper dives the other way it’s a good pen. I’m no Vokes fan. He’s toss, and it’s cost us tonight, but as I’ve said earlier these things are fine margins. The lump tucks it away and, as our only current standing forward, he’s got a bit of confidence for the next few games. Professional penalty takers should know all about which way the keeper they are up against likes to dive, do you reckon Vokes had done his pre match research just in case he had his big moment? My guess would be... nah, can’t be arsed with that bollox, I’ll just pick up my £12k a week for least possible effort. BM It’s more like 30k ☹️
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Post by roylandstoke on Dec 8, 2020 23:11:51 GMT
It was so bad, it needed to be a hell of a lot better to be awful.
It was totally in keeping with the value for money fat Sam has represented since his arrival at SCSFC.
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Post by RF10 on Dec 8, 2020 23:12:14 GMT
If the keeper dives the other way it’s a good pen. I’m no Vokes fan. He’s toss, and it’s cost us tonight, but as I’ve said earlier these things are fine margins. The lump tucks it away and, as our only current standing forward, he’s got a bit of confidence for the next few games. Professional penalty takers should know all about which way the keeper they are up against likes to dive, do you reckon Vokes had done his pre match research just in case he had his big moment? My guess would be... nah, can’t be arsed with that bollox, I’ll just pick up my £12k a week for least possible effort. BM I'm not even having the research bit. Every single outfield player should be scoring a penalty the level they play at. If the keeper makes a great save that's the only exception. I'd be disappointed missing a peno playing with my mates never mind being paid huge sums of money to play at a high level.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 8, 2020 23:12:27 GMT
Exactly the type of penalty and out of form/low on confidence striker takes. I still say Powell should take some responsibility, as a senior player and a damn good penalty taker no one should have been getting that ball off him..... But who is our main penalty taker? Is it Clucas? He’s usually the set piece man when fit?? Christ what we’d do for a Baines or boring Milner... It was our first penalty of the season so who knows. I guess no1 penalty taker is Campbell. Sadly he wasn't on the pitch. Presumably Fletcher and Joe Allen would be high up the pecking order. Neither were on the pitch. I guess Clucas may well have had some say. Sadly he wasn't on the pitch. Shawcross scored in a shootout, easily, away at Birmingham. Sadly he wasn't on the pitch. I was thinking Powell would have taken it but had he wanted to, surely he wouldn't have let anyone else near that ball. What's O'Neil said?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 8, 2020 23:14:27 GMT
But who is our main penalty taker? Is it Clucas? He’s usually the set piece man when fit?? Christ what we’d do for a Baines or boring Milner... It was our first penalty of the season so who knows. I guess no1 penalty taker is Campbell. Sadly he wasn't on the pitch. Presumably Fletcher and Joe Allen would be high up the pecking order. Neither were on the pitch. I guess Clucas may well have had some say. Sadly he wasn't on the pitch. Shawcross scored in a shootout, easily, away at Birmingham. Sadly he wasn't on the pitch. I was thinking Powell would have taken it but had he wanted to, surely he wouldn't have let anyone else near that ball. What's O'Neil said? Our penalties in recent shoot outs have been superb, yet in game time they’re absolutely shite.....
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Dec 8, 2020 23:15:15 GMT
If the keeper dives the other way it’s a good pen. I’m no Vokes fan. He’s toss, and it’s cost us tonight, but as I’ve said earlier these things are fine margins. The lump tucks it away and, as our only current standing forward, he’s got a bit of confidence for the next few games. Professional penalty takers should know all about which way the keeper they are up against likes to dive, do you reckon Vokes had done his pre match research just in case he had his big moment? My guess would be... nah, can’t be arsed with that bollox, I’ll just pick up my £12k a week for least possible effort. BM Professional penalty takers would master taking penalties that are not possible to save. Shearer famously had a technique that he swore by because if he nailed it, he knew a keeper standing in the middle would not reach it. Bruno Fernandes, for all his arseing about, has an established effective technique. Vokes, on the face of it, has no such intelligence to formulate such a technique.
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Post by andyapotter on Dec 8, 2020 23:16:03 GMT
He was never going to score though was he? I think that is why I'm so mad. As he was stood waiting to take it my wife was getting excited shouting my little lad down to watch. I told her not to bother, that Vokes would miss and we'd go on to lose 2-1. She said I was a miserable twat and that she was sick of me. She's not spoke to me since she saw the final score! It was a bizarre feeling, like you I was 100% sure he was going to miss. I imagine most of us were. Same here. Miss and 1-2 as soon as I saw him with the ball.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 8, 2020 23:16:07 GMT
It was our first penalty of the season so who knows. I guess no1 penalty taker is Campbell. Sadly he wasn't on the pitch. Presumably Fletcher and Joe Allen would be high up the pecking order. Neither were on the pitch. I guess Clucas may well have had some say. Sadly he wasn't on the pitch. Shawcross scored in a shootout, easily, away at Birmingham. Sadly he wasn't on the pitch. I was thinking Powell would have taken it but had he wanted to, surely he wouldn't have let anyone else near that ball. What's O'Neil said? Our penalties in recent shoot outs have been superb, yet in game time they’re absolutely shite..... Did Vokes take one at Leeds?
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Post by Gods on Dec 8, 2020 23:17:49 GMT
It was horrendous but the worst thing of all is that it was near identical to his two previous misses v Hull and Crawley. I seem to remember he hit the cross bar at Crawley with the first oenalty of the shoot out, the only player on either side to miss as it happened!
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Post by roylandstoke on Dec 8, 2020 23:17:55 GMT
Professional penalty takers should know all about which way the keeper they are up against likes to dive, do you reckon Vokes had done his pre match research just in case he had his big moment? My guess would be... nah, can’t be arsed with that bollox, I’ll just pick up my £12k a week for least possible effort. BM It’s more like 30k ☹️ Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck , fuck, fuck...fuck, fuck fuck fuck, fuck fuck fuck Mad fucking Nathan reallly did fuck us over. At least Pericard tried (sometimes)
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 8, 2020 23:22:11 GMT
Our penalties in recent shoot outs have been superb, yet in game time they’re absolutely shite..... Did Vokes take one at Leeds? Yep pretty sure Vokes scored the first. I think Duffy, Etebo, Clucas and Butland took the others?
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