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Post by raythesailor on Dec 8, 2020 20:50:34 GMT
Sounds like fun and games here. Buissy watching Stoke so don’t know what’s going on ?
14 mins loads of bookings and they walk off. ?
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Post by a on Dec 8, 2020 20:54:14 GMT
Allegedly racist abuse from an official to besaksehir manager???
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 8, 2020 20:54:34 GMT
Sounds like fun and games here. Buissy watching Stoke so don’t know what’s going on ? 14 mins loads of bookings and they walk off. ? The other side has walked off claiming some kind of racism off the fourth official |
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Post by franklin on Dec 8, 2020 20:54:45 GMT
Sounds like fun and games here. Buissy watching Stoke so don’t know what’s going on ? 14 mins loads of bookings and they walk off. ? Hardly surprising when the 4th official calls an instanbul staff member the n word. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 8, 2020 20:55:16 GMT
Breaking | PSG vs Istanbul Basaksehir suspended following alleged instance of racism on the part of the 4th official towards the Turkish side’s assistant manager.
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Post by Robo10 on Dec 8, 2020 20:55:48 GMT
Story is Istanbul player sent off, were some words, 4th official dropped the N bomb
Istanbul walked off, followed by PSG who all heard it too
Scenes.
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Post by a on Dec 8, 2020 21:12:15 GMT
Good stuff..... fuck sakes
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Post by a on Dec 8, 2020 21:12:35 GMT
Wrong thread !
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Post by raythesailor on Dec 8, 2020 22:22:43 GMT
Reports all sounding very confused.
I dare not comment as anything anybody says could possibly be construed as racist, so best to say nothing until the FACTS come out. ???
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Post by skelman on Dec 8, 2020 22:36:23 GMT
Reports all sounding very confused. I dare not comment as anything anybody says could possibly be construed as racist, so best to say nothing until the FACTS come out. ??? We'll wait for the official version from Boris at PMQs tomorrow then Ray?!  |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 8, 2020 22:37:56 GMT
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Post by wearestoke80 on Dec 8, 2020 22:42:53 GMT
Sounded to me like the 4th official tried to identify a player by describing him as “black guy” to the ref
If that’s true it’s been blown way out off proportion. You literally can’t even describe the way someone looks these days without it being racist?
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Post by Dr Hesham on Dec 8, 2020 22:44:57 GMT
As a non white person, I will not feel annoyed if someone who doesn't know my name called me the "black guy" especially when he has a language barrier problem, being black is not something shameful, racism happens everyday and everywhere and we have to stand together against racism but oversensitivity is not the way to stand against racism.
We are not sure yet about what exactly he said, but according to initial reports he said "the black guy" and English is not his primary language. If he said "negro" so it is a different story and yes it is pure racism.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 8, 2020 22:44:58 GMT
Sounded to me like the 4th official tried to identify a player by describing him as “black guy” to the ref If that’s true it’s been blown way out off proportion. You literally can’t even describe the way someone looks these days without it being racist? What do you mean ‘sounded to you’? Were you lipreading? |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 8, 2020 22:49:54 GMT
Sounded to me like the 4th official tried to identify a player by describing him as “black guy” to the ref If that’s true it’s been blown way out off proportion. You literally can’t even describe the way someone looks these days without it being racist? What do you mean ‘sounded to you’? Were you lipreading? Apparently Ba could be overheard saying words to that affect, I haven't heard it but thats what the BBC has reported. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 8, 2020 22:51:25 GMT
What do you mean ‘sounded to you’? Were you lipreading? Apparently Ba could be overheard saying words to that affect, I haven't heard it but thats what the BBC has reported. Yeah, I just thought his choice of words was curious, especially since it’s seemingly enough for him to decide based on not much else that it’s (depressingly predictably) political correctness gone mad... |
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Post by raythesailor on Dec 8, 2020 22:54:03 GMT
The world is going mad.
I have put three posts on here and then had second thoughts and deleted them because I don’t know what I am supposed to say or not to say.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Dec 8, 2020 22:55:35 GMT
Sounded to me like the 4th official tried to identify a player by describing him as “black guy” to the ref If that’s true it’s been blown way out off proportion. You literally can’t even describe the way someone looks these days without it being racist? What do you mean ‘sounded to you’? Were you lipreading? It was on BT sport and demba ba was said it to one of the officials. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 8, 2020 22:56:10 GMT
Apparently Ba could be overheard saying words to that affect, I haven't heard it but thats what the BBC has reported. Yeah, I just thought his choice of words was curious, especially since it’s seemingly enough for him to decide based on not much else that it’s (depressingly predictably) political correctness gone mad... Oh Fair enough sorry. I'm not sure saying the black guy is a good way of pointing someone else out myself, maybe at a stretch if he was the only black person on the pitch, can't say I'd be particually comfortable if I heard it. |
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Post by RF10 on Dec 8, 2020 23:04:22 GMT
Sounded to me like the 4th official tried to identify a player by describing him as “black guy” to the ref If that’s true it’s been blown way out off proportion. You literally can’t even describe the way someone looks these days without it being racist? What do you mean ‘sounded to you’? Were you lipreading? Bit over the top. It's clear he means 'seems like this happened' Anyway after the footage I've seen after being confronted for using the N word the 4th official tries to explain he was referring to the colour black and not meaning offence. In Romania the word Negru means black. The 4th official should really know the word could be interpreted as a racial word therefore shouldn't use it. Given the heat of moment it's difficult to try and explain with the offended party accepting this. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 8, 2020 23:06:05 GMT
What do you mean ‘sounded to you’? Were you lipreading? Bit over the top. It's clear he means 'seems like this happened' Anyway after the footage I've seen after being confronted for using the N word the 4th official tries to explain he was referring to the colour black and not meaning offence. In Romania the word Negru means black. The 4th official should really know the word could be interpreted as a racial word therefore shouldn't use it. Given the heat of moment it's difficult to try and explain with the offended party accepting this. Why was his race brought into it at all? Why not just point at the bloke, he’s literally right there? |
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Post by RF10 on Dec 8, 2020 23:07:23 GMT
Bit over the top. It's clear he means 'seems like this happened' Anyway after the footage I've seen after being confronted for using the N word the 4th official tries to explain he was referring to the colour black and not meaning offence. In Romania the word Negru means black. The 4th official should really know the word could be interpreted as a racial word therefore shouldn't use it. Given the heat of moment it's difficult to try and explain with the offended party accepting this. Why was his race brought into it at all? Why not just point at the bloke, he’s literally right there? I agree with that and would say it's stupidity from 4th official but not necessarily racist. |
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Post by walton corner on Dec 8, 2020 23:13:22 GMT
As a non white person, I will not feel annoyed if someone who doesn't know my name called me the "black guy" especially when he has a language barrier problem, being black is not something shameful, racism happens everyday and everywhere and we have to stand together against racism but oversensitivity is not the way to stand against racism. We are not sure yet about what exactly he said, but according to initial reports he said "the black guy" and English is not his primary language. If he said "negro" so it is a different story and yes it is pure racism. Seriously..if two people one white and one black were coming towards you one with a baseball bat in hand ...and I said to you which one is carrying the bat ..without pointing what would your answer be ..... mine would be either the white bloke or the black bloke ....am I racist for saying that |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 8, 2020 23:15:50 GMT
As a non white person, I will not feel annoyed if someone who doesn't know my name called me the "black guy" especially when he has a language barrier problem, being black is not something shameful, racism happens everyday and everywhere and we have to stand together against racism but oversensitivity is not the way to stand against racism. We are not sure yet about what exactly he said, but according to initial reports he said "the black guy" and English is not his primary language. If he said "negro" so it is a different story and yes it is pure racism. Seriously..if two people one white and one black were coming towards you one with a baseball bat in hand ...and I said to you which one is carrying the bat ..without pointing what would your answer be ..... mine would be either the white bloke or the black bloke ....am I racist for saying that It’s not the same thing is it? |
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Post by wearestoke80 on Dec 8, 2020 23:20:06 GMT
Yeah, I just thought his choice of words was curious, especially since it’s seemingly enough for him to decide based on not much else that it’s (depressingly predictably) political correctness gone mad... Oh Fair enough sorry. I'm not sure saying the black guy is a good way of pointing someone else out myself, maybe at a stretch if he was the only black person on the pitch, can't say I'd be particually comfortable if I heard it. I probably isn’t the best way to describe someone, but because he has done it doesn’t mean he’s racist. However if the N word was used then that is most definitely racist and the game was rightfully called off. |
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Post by wearestoke80 on Dec 8, 2020 23:21:52 GMT
Seriously..if two people one white and one black were coming towards you one with a baseball bat in hand ...and I said to you which one is carrying the bat ..without pointing what would your answer be ..... mine would be either the white bloke or the black bloke ....am I racist for saying that It’s not the same thing is it? No but it’s an example, now answer the question. Would it make him racist? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 8, 2020 23:25:11 GMT
It’s not the same thing is it? No but it’s an example, now answer the question. Would it make him racist? It’s a weirdly specific example that is potentially life or death and introduces time pressures and the need for quick identification. Why are we debating this instead of the PSG thing again sorry? |
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Post by walton corner on Dec 8, 2020 23:34:23 GMT
No but it’s an example, now answer the question. Would it make him racist? It’s a weirdly specific example that is potentially life or death and introduces time pressures and the need for quick identification. Why are we debating this instead of the PSG thing again sorry? Because in the PSG game the fourth official was asked which player etc ....he could have pointed to a group of two white players and one black player ...and said the black one |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 8, 2020 23:36:24 GMT
It’s a weirdly specific example that is potentially life or death and introduces time pressures and the need for quick identification. Why are we debating this instead of the PSG thing again sorry? Because in the PSG game the fourth official was asked which player etc ....he could have pointed to a group of two white players and one black player ...and said the black one Why would he need to do that? Why not walk right up to the man in question and single him out without at any point mentioning his race? |
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Post by wearestoke80 on Dec 8, 2020 23:51:01 GMT
Because in the PSG game the fourth official was asked which player etc ....he could have pointed to a group of two white players and one black player ...and said the black one Why would he need to do that? Why not walk right up to the man in question and single him out without at any point mentioning his race? Because it would be so much it easier to just say who it is than fucking about walking round the pitch. Christ is this what it’s come to ? |
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