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Post by Billy the kid on Dec 5, 2020 19:02:36 GMT
It's time it stopped taking the knee for a bloke who died in America is meaningless in the UK. Especially a thug ....
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 5, 2020 19:04:02 GMT
Because its an empty gesture? Its a front so they can show they're doing something about it without actually doing anything meaningful. The fact that we are talking about it like this and fans were booing shows it has more meaning than you think. To me its worth the few seconds it takes to keep the topic top of mind. Is everyone here really that bothered by a message that racism is wrong? Really? Two rights don’t make a wrong right, Right?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 5, 2020 19:04:16 GMT
All the talk about Millwall fans booing but boro stood during the "knee minute"...what is the protocol..does everyone have to kneel or not??? Does there have to be a protocol? People should be allowed to do as they want with regards to taking a knee or not . The booing of it at Millwall was rediculous.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 5, 2020 19:10:20 GMT
Because its an empty gesture? Its a front so they can show they're doing something about it without actually doing anything meaningful. The fact that we are talking about it like this and fans were booing shows it has more meaning than you think. To me its worth the few seconds it takes to keep the topic top of mind. Is everyone here really that bothered by a message that racism is wrong? Really? Is all racism wrong has to be doesn't it ? how taking the knee to a commemorate criminal drug dealer killed by cops in the USA has anything to do with football in the UK is beyond reason. Are we going to be taking the knee for everyone killed by cops all around the World ?
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Post by Clem Fandango on Dec 5, 2020 19:21:29 GMT
Entirely up to the individual but as soon as Lewis Hamilton got on his soap box I stopped listening.
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 5, 2020 19:26:38 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 5, 2020 19:28:25 GMT
The fact that we are talking about it like this and fans were booing shows it has more meaning than you think. To me its worth the few seconds it takes to keep the topic top of mind. Is everyone here really that bothered by a message that racism is wrong? Really? Is all racism wrong has to be doesn't it ? how taking the knee to a commemorate criminal drug dealer killed by cops in the USA has anything to do with football in the UK is beyond reason. Are we going to be taking the knee for everyone killed by cops all around the World ? I say again. Martin Tyler says “it’s not a choice, it’s a mandate”. Classic Sky
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Post by sportsman on Dec 5, 2020 19:31:44 GMT
I've said it before but going on social media and the feeling you get from other places the BLM has probably put racism back decades.
It was doing quite well apart from the odd single fan now and then.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 5, 2020 19:32:12 GMT
Really for someone who prides himself on being Woke ! he's a disgrace if he was right wing he would have been banned for such a comment, the caring face of the left Wibble wibble..... Trying to squirm your way out of what you said by deflecting it as a joke not a very woke joke, disgraceful behaviour again from the left wing nasty gang
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 5, 2020 19:33:59 GMT
Entirely up to the individual but as soon as Lewis Hamilton got on his soap box I stopped listening. Sports non personality of the year.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 5, 2020 19:35:31 GMT
Trying to squirm your way out of what you said by deflecting it as a joke not a very woke joke, disgraceful behaviour again from the left wing nasty gang Wibble wibble.....
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Post by emmbrook1956 on Dec 5, 2020 19:36:19 GMT
Look at what has happened in the last 6 months. Look at the adverts on tv, look at the presenters, look at the demographics,
If you are a male and white you have no chance any longer
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 5, 2020 19:37:02 GMT
The gesture initially was in good faith by football but despite the connotations received since they still insist on carrying on. Its the classic corporate “look at me” stance. Exasperated by the likes of Lewis Hamilton and other celebrity luvvies who don’t have the first idea about the cause they’re trying to promote. It’s got to the point now where there is a real negativity around it and it needs to be canned because there is absolutely no public affiliation whatsoever.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 5, 2020 19:39:44 GMT
Trying to squirm your way out of what you said by deflecting it as a joke not a very woke joke, disgraceful behaviour again from the left wing nasty gang Wibble wibble..... Woke joke ......
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Post by andystokey on Dec 5, 2020 19:40:50 GMT
Imagine kneeling for movement that was kickstarted from a bloke who held a knife to a pregnant woman's belly. Only to be lauded as a hero. Completely ridiculous isn't it. As is perpetuating an Internet myth, proven to be completely false. Floyd served five years in prison for the armed robbery, but there is no evidence that Henriquez was pregnant at the time, and her injuries were inflicted by another man.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 5, 2020 19:48:53 GMT
Only to be lauded as a hero. Completely ridiculous isn't it. As is perpetuating an Internet myth, proven to be completely false. Floyd served five years in prison for the armed robbery, but there is no evidence that Henriquez was pregnant at the time, and her injuries were inflicted by another man. The guy was a proven violent drug dealing criminal who’s being held up as a beacon of hope. I think that’s wrong, no matter what you say
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Post by Gifton on Dec 5, 2020 19:52:16 GMT
Good for them BLM are as racist as those they protest against , and before anyone starts I have family who originate for the Caribbean and they think the same 🤣😂🤣😂 well if your family from the Caribbean agree then it must be true!
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Post by andystokey on Dec 5, 2020 19:54:47 GMT
As is perpetuating an Internet myth, proven to be completely false. Floyd served five years in prison for the armed robbery, but there is no evidence that Henriquez was pregnant at the time, and her injuries were inflicted by another man. The guy was a proven violent drug dealing criminal who’s being held up as a beacon of hope. I think that’s wrong, no matter what you say No he's not. He was killed by a police officer in a public place. Which drew attention to the division, which does exist. No one is taking a knee for George Floyd they are taking it to acknowledge a division which needs to be addressed.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 5, 2020 19:59:07 GMT
The guy was a proven violent drug dealing criminal who’s being held up as a beacon of hope. I think that’s wrong, no matter what you say No he's not. He was killed by a police officer in a public place. Which drew attention to the division, which does exist. No one is taking a knee for George Floyd they are taking it to acknowledge a division which needs to be addressed. In the UK?
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Post by flea79 on Dec 5, 2020 19:59:29 GMT
The guy was a proven violent drug dealing criminal who’s being held up as a beacon of hope. I think that’s wrong, no matter what you say No he's not. He was killed by a police officer in a public place. Which drew attention to the division, which does exist. No one is taking a knee for George Floyd they are taking it to acknowledge a division which needs to be addressed. The whole thing was about Flloyd being held up as some sort of martyr, hence the murals, the placards saying I can’t breathe etc etc. Since the initial bruhaha they have distanced themselves from him but it’s what started it. Comment before is spot on he was a violent dangerous convicted criminal, not somebody I would take a knee for. Hold up Rosa Parkes instead who really is deserving of praise or Al Sharpton who has always preached for peaceful relations and peaceful protest. Hell give me a Khalid Muhammad who’s rhetoric was so strong he was expelled from the Nation of Islam but he stood for something.
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 5, 2020 19:59:36 GMT
The guy was a proven violent drug dealing criminal who’s being held up as a beacon of hope. I think that’s wrong, no matter what you say No he's not. He was killed by a police officer in a public place. Which drew attention to the division, which does exist. No one is taking a knee for George Floyd they are taking it to acknowledge a division which needs to be addressed. Should they therefore be taking the knee for the Australian woman shot dead by the Police in the USA, her crime reporting a possible rape at the rear of her house does that not warrant a knee for the next 12 months in UK football ?
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Post by Billy the kid on Dec 5, 2020 20:02:09 GMT
As is perpetuating an Internet myth, proven to be completely false. Floyd served five years in prison for the armed robbery, but there is no evidence that Henriquez was pregnant at the time, and her injuries were inflicted by another man. The guy was a proven violent drug dealing criminal who’s being held up as a beacon of hope. I think that’s wrong, no matter what you say Stunning that the fact he was a complete arsehole is over looked by the do gooder woke lefty wankers in the media.
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Post by nigerianstokie on Dec 5, 2020 20:03:59 GMT
It's time it stopped taking the knee for a bloke who died in America is meaningless in the UK. It kind of isn’t though. I hope you’re being deliberately stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 20:08:04 GMT
Classic Oatcake
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 5, 2020 20:08:47 GMT
It's time it stopped taking the knee for a bloke who died in America is meaningless in the UK. It kind of isn’t though. I hope you’re being deliberately stupid. What is kind of isn't ? what is the link to the death of a violent drug dealing armed criminal at he hands of over the top cops in the USA to life and football in the UK, should we be taking the knee over similar incidents all over the World or is this about colour of skin again ?
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Post by dastokie on Dec 5, 2020 20:13:38 GMT
They didn't take the knee because the showers were awful and they didn't want to get dirty knees.
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Dec 5, 2020 20:14:58 GMT
Look at what has happened in the last 6 months. Look at the adverts on tv, look at the presenters, look at the demographics, If you are a male and white you have no chance any longer Please tell me you missed off a wink or something? No way you actually believe that... surely?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 5, 2020 20:17:21 GMT
@warrenhaughton · 6m Absolute state of this from Gary Rowett and Millwall. "The players have spoke about it and said they don’t support it as a political message." Politial message? Ignorance breeds ignorance. And the garbage work in the community line trotted out again.
I think Mr Rowett could be out of a job by Monday after the mainstream media have finished with him. This is why the initial kneeling to BLM was a big mistake and muddied the waters. They should have continued the good work that had been done with kick out not initiated the BLM kneel. It was always going to split people’s views because of what they stand for defunding the police etc.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 5, 2020 20:25:26 GMT
No he's not. He was killed by a police officer in a public place. Which drew attention to the division, which does exist. No one is taking a knee for George Floyd they are taking it to acknowledge a division which needs to be addressed. The whole thing was about Flloyd being held up as some sort of martyr, hence the murals, the placards saying I can’t breathe etc etc. Since the initial bruhaha they have distanced themselves from him but it’s what started it. Comment before is spot on he was a violent dangerous convicted criminal, not somebody I would take a knee for. Hold up Rosa Parkes instead who really is deserving of praise or Al Sharpton who has always preached for peaceful relations and peaceful protest. Hell give me a Khalid Muhammad who’s rhetoric was so strong he was expelled from the Nation of Islam but he stood for something. Either you think we have a problem with racism or we don't. I don't need a guided tour thanks. The gesture was acknowledgement by sport stars over the world to say "enough". The killing of Floyd was a poignant moment as was the murder of Stephen Lawrence or the treatment of Anton Ferdinand. Rascism is still fundamentally as prevalent as it has always been it's institutional and a sickness. Everytime someone shines a light on it a a certain group of people feel aggrieved and want to hide it again. If it feels uncomfortable, it should.
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Post by starkiller on Dec 5, 2020 20:28:47 GMT
It's comical watching the condemnation from authorities. They think it will be an isolated case. So out of touch. When there's just a fraction of a crowd in stadiums, it will be booed at every game until it's gone. How many months is it now?
And it has fuck all to do with racism. Just keep this crap out of the match day experience.
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