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Post by richie22 on Dec 1, 2020 18:55:57 GMT
With today’s announcement regards the collapse of the Arcadia group and quickly followed up by Debenhams. Where does our long forgotten City centre go from here? There’s already plenty of spare retail space available up there and the only thing that seems to be willing to move in is a vape shop.. Hopefully the staff find something in this hard time to keep them ticking over until better days arrive, but what does the future hold for our high street.
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Post by mattyd2 on Dec 1, 2020 19:40:21 GMT
Same everywhere.
Good point about vape shops .
High streets are just full now of charity shops, and they are becoming something of an eyesore with thoughtless idiots dumping there stuff in doorways, which soon mounts up during lockdown.
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Post by dirtclod on Dec 1, 2020 23:28:14 GMT
Legalize Marijuana and open up Dispensaries? No in all seriousness I hate to hear this I really do. You guys have SO MUCH history in these areas, it's truly sad. I live in the US and am seeing the same thing over here with the move away from "Brick & Mortar" economies. I really think that the future is in creating green belts out of these abandoned retail outlets. Return that land to its state before we came along. Only exception should be to create additional AFFORDABLE housing. (Yeah I know, if they do build housing, then they'll likely "gentrify" the area, making it un-affordable housing) that kind of thinking needs to change. I hate urban-sprawl - to me, it's the new form of littering. Building new, ridiculously un-affordable houses that nobody is going to buy as opposed to renovating what we already have. Ok I won't get started here.
I'm just saying, doing SOMETHING different other than just leaving the buildings to rot is better than doing nothing. Unless cities LIKE providing drug dealers places to operate from. Problem is, there are SO MANY of these areas that most countries just don't have the budget right now even to bulldoze it and plant trees/grass, especially with Covid...
Center of town....gee....why doesn't somebody require that ALL new football stadiums utilize....oh never mind. . . . I'm getting started again...
I don't know where I'm going with this, thanks for letting me ramble.
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Post by thevoid on Dec 2, 2020 7:38:07 GMT
I've quit vaping so even less reason to visit Hanley then...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 8:26:16 GMT
It’s quite upsetting to keep seeing videos of Hanley and the local dust heads that have taken over. Pictures of a bloke with no top on pretending box, some singing and dancing off there tits, old people getting abused. It makes my blood boil. I’m hoping when the pubs open back up and a bit of normality resumes, a few of the locals give them little twats a good hiding.
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Post by Northy on Dec 2, 2020 8:47:32 GMT
We've had people move in to retail units that are more of entertainment and bringing families in. Puddle ducks swimming lessons, ice cream farm children's play area, couple of large independent cafés, (coffee house same as Lymm) and Bear, there are also plans to have an artisan cafe area thing like Altrinchams.
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Post by salopstick on Dec 2, 2020 8:51:22 GMT
If Arcadia had embraced the internet. Like NEXT did they wouldn’t be in this trouble.
The internet can co-exist with bricks and mortar shops but it needs to be executed properly.
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Post by franklin on Dec 2, 2020 10:17:54 GMT
If Arcadia had embraced the internet. Like NEXT did they wouldn’t be in this trouble. The internet can co-exist with bricks and mortar shops but it needs to be executed properly. Add to that the proper regulation of the likes of Amazon to stop the sale of goods that would not pass British safety regulations its flooded with cheap dangerous items for sale into the UK. Id make it clear to Amazon and co that if anyone is hurt or killed by goods purchased from their platforms they will be held responsible if they are not already. |
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 2, 2020 10:41:31 GMT
As a child in the 50s I used to be dragged round the shops in Hanley on a Saturday morning.
Woolworths, Huntbach's, Bratt and Dyke, Webberleys, ending up at Sherwins to buy a rock and roll record. |
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Post by flea79 on Dec 2, 2020 13:39:39 GMT
It’s quite upsetting to keep seeing videos of Hanley and the local dust heads that have taken over. Pictures of a bloke with no top on pretending box, some singing and dancing off there tits, old people getting abused. It makes my blood boil. I’m hoping when the pubs open back up and a bit of normality resumes, a few of the locals give them little twats a good hiding. i work in the centre of town and it has been dreadful since lockdown, packs of druggies/dustheads have had free reign and the run of the place, im relatively fit and healthy and can handle myself but i wouldnt fancy my chances against 5 or 6 of these creatures if they tried it on, and they really look like they would, i take the banking and alter my route everytime i go now and while we on about it who is Becky Wilkins and why is she a slag? you would have thought the council would have painted that out opposite wetherspoons now (apologies to Ms Wilkins family if any reside on here) |
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Post by Kilo on Dec 2, 2020 14:04:13 GMT
It’s quite upsetting to keep seeing videos of Hanley and the local dust heads that have taken over. Pictures of a bloke with no top on pretending box, some singing and dancing off there tits, old people getting abused. It makes my blood boil. I’m hoping when the pubs open back up and a bit of normality resumes, a few of the locals give them little twats a good hiding. i work in the centre of town and it has been dreadful since lockdown, packs of druggies/dustheads have had free reign and the run of the place, im relatively fit and healthy and can handle myself but i wouldnt fancy my chances against 5 or 6 of these creatures if they tried it on, and they really look like they would, i take the banking and alter my route everytime i go now and while we on about it who is Becky Wilkins and why is she a slag? you would have thought the council would have painted that out opposite wetherspoons now (apologies to Ms Wilkins family if any reside on here) Not been to Spoons, Hanley for a while. Did you manage to get Becky's number? (asking for a friend)
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Post by flea79 on Dec 2, 2020 14:05:03 GMT
i work in the centre of town and it has been dreadful since lockdown, packs of druggies/dustheads have had free reign and the run of the place, im relatively fit and healthy and can handle myself but i wouldnt fancy my chances against 5 or 6 of these creatures if they tried it on, and they really look like they would, i take the banking and alter my route everytime i go now and while we on about it who is Becky Wilkins and why is she a slag? you would have thought the council would have painted that out opposite wetherspoons now (apologies to Ms Wilkins family if any reside on here) Not been to Spoons, Hanley for a while. Did you manage to get Becky's number? (asking for a friend)
Get in the que if we do find her! |
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 2, 2020 14:16:15 GMT
Hanley is a shit hole full of scum bags and beggars, I avoid the place like the plague moving the Job Centre to a residential area has accelerated the demise, the place is a disgrace much like a lot of the country now dragged into the third world. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 2, 2020 14:18:18 GMT
What future!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 2, 2020 15:19:29 GMT
Some investment here
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 2, 2020 15:24:13 GMT
Hmmm some concrete benches and block paving by the looks of it |
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Post by Cast no shadow on Dec 2, 2020 15:28:01 GMT
£6.1 mil for new buses, routes and bus station improvements seems a lot, I was under the impression that folk rarely use them. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 2, 2020 16:46:17 GMT
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Post by foster on Dec 2, 2020 18:37:06 GMT
To save a few quid, most people prefer putting their money into the pockets of the likes of Jeff Bezos and foreign companies that don't pay their fair share of UK taxes....
... Rather than support their local businesses and neighbours.
It's hardly a surprise that the high street is dead, and it's going to get worse until people realise that they should do their bit and start changing their consumer habits for the good of the country and local communities.
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 2, 2020 19:01:03 GMT
They've done a nice bit of tarmacking at Stoke station, nice and smooth to drive over. I get I'm very Alan Partridge with that  , but driving over improved roads makes you realise how shit they are in general around the city. |
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Post by salopstick on Dec 2, 2020 22:06:01 GMT
The high street/shopping centres did not up their game.
Kids would prefer to go shopping, hang out with their friends etc on a Saturday
No one did enough to keep them interested.
Big internet retailers not just Amazon but the clothes sites like boohoo etc swooped in and have pretty much captured a whole generation.
I dont see how shops can win them back
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Post by butlerstbob on Dec 2, 2020 22:08:30 GMT
Hanley is the new Longton, very very sad to see!
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Post by innocentbystander on Dec 2, 2020 22:14:28 GMT
When you look at old pictures of Hanley it's tragic to see what's been demolished for the short term gain of a few big shops and a shit shopping centre, which also looks doomed.
Personally I'm delighted to see the demise of mindless shopping as a standard past time, the planet is awash with cheap Chinese plastic disposable tat. To encourage people to go out and buy more is not a solution for the economy or the planet.
Town and city centres are going to have to become more residential, and more leisure focused.
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Post by lordb on Dec 2, 2020 22:45:45 GMT
When you look at old pictures of Hanley it's tragic to see what's been demolished for the short term gain of a few big shops and a shit shopping centre, which also looks doomed. Personally I'm delighted to see the demise of mindless shopping as a standard past time, the planet is awash with cheap Chinese plastic disposable tat. To encourage people to go out and buy more is not a solution for the economy or the planet. Town and city centres are going to have to become more residential, and more leisure focused. Disposable tat is simply bought online now. |
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Post by Boothen on Dec 3, 2020 19:35:37 GMT
Hanley is dead. Council corruption saw to that. Now it's nothing but violent 'homeless' druggies and alcoholics fighting each other, pestering the public and shitting in the street.
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Post by thevoid on Dec 4, 2020 7:51:59 GMT
Talk about clutching at straws! Street art is great in the right place- like a hipster haunt such as Camden- but in a provincial town centre it just looks a mess. And the music acts we attract are pretty lame compared to the ones they've had at Wolves Civic. They usually come to Hanley before they break through. And I've never even heard of Catfish and the Bottlemen. |
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Post by misterj on Dec 4, 2020 17:28:16 GMT
Can’t understand why the city doesn’t find out where incoming shoppers like to park, where they shop and where they feel most threatened ..... then ..... put in good lighting and employ a few hi-viz patrol officers (shopping hours only) to constantly circumnavigate these places giving confidence back to visitors? In the 70’s/80’s/90’s you might have been a tiny bit apprehensive about visiting Hanley at night but NEVER would have questioned the security of the place in daylight hours!! Can it be rescued? Is there the energy and enthusiasm to do it?
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Post by butlerstbob on Dec 4, 2020 17:41:04 GMT
Can’t understand why the city doesn’t find out where incoming shoppers like to park, where they shop and where they feel most threatened ..... then ..... put in good lighting and employ a few hi-viz patrol officers (shopping hours only) to constantly circumnavigate these places giving confidence back to visitors? In the 70’s/80’s/90’s you might have been a tiny bit apprehensive about visiting Hanley at night but NEVER would have questioned the security of the place in daylight hours!! Can it be rescued? Is there the energy and enthusiasm to do it? I can totally understand why.... SoT city Council, an absolutely waste of space. The hundreds of millions they have wasted over the last decade alone... on how many civic centres? The smithfield centre?? They have let Hanley go to the dogs, it's on them! |
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Post by thevoid on Dec 4, 2020 22:58:16 GMT
Using Hanley as a cultural point of reference, I'd hate to be in my late teens/early 20s and in my prime now, and I mean before Covid too. You look back at the 80s/90s and it was a time of hope- you actually spoke to complete strangers in bars/clubs (OK, the drugs helped) whereas now most interaction is online with people you'll never meet. People had fun then but now you're too scared to say anything for fear of offending A, B or C, or getting stabbed. God forbid a young lad chats a girl up now, or opens a door for her, he'll be on an harassment charge. Rather than enjoying a night out (remember them?), people are too busy taking photos of their shots and Tweeting. I shouldn't bring music into it as that's subjective, but if we're honest, that was better back then too. And Blackpool away under Lou pisses on modern football with it's VAR and Tunnel Clubs. That's not even up for debate.
Are we happier now as a society than back then? I genuinely believe we're not but I'm open to discussion 😎
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Post by muggleton on Dec 8, 2020 10:54:11 GMT
Same everywhere. Good point about vape shops . High streets are just full now of charity shops, and they are becoming something of an eyesore with thoughtless idiots dumping there stuff in doorways, which soon mounts up during lockdown. The high street is taking a hit everywhere alright, but places like Hanley that were already struggling will get it especially bad. Fair play to anyone trying to buck the trend, as it was a big ask for the likes of Piccadilly new businesses to survive in normal times, let alone now. Lots of this is outside of our control, but if you value a business then support it when you can, or don't be surprised if it goes. |
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