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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 17:46:06 GMT
Like Brown, Vokes is going to hate playing at home next season with a crowd. He is going to get slaughtered warming up and rightly so. Harsh on Brown. He’s no Campbell and was in poor form in the middle of last season but improved towards the end of it and can’t be accused of not trying. No reason for the crowd to not get behind him. seriously? I don'tthink the crowd would do that at all , One or two on here perhaps but some would boo a post box. Campbell started slow and took a dozen or so games to score, looked like he couldn't adapt at first. Brown ended up with 5 goals I think and worked hard at his game. 'Rightly so'....really ????
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Post by chamberlain on Jun 24, 2021 17:48:56 GMT
Whether Brown has ability or not remains to be seen but any Stoke fan who boos or gets on the back of any player who gives his all is a moron
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 24, 2021 18:05:04 GMT
Whether Brown has ability or not remains to be seen but any Stoke fan who boos or gets on the back of any player who gives his all is a moron Surely being shit at football trumps trying? Who gives a shit if they're running around if they can't kick a ball properly?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 18:07:39 GMT
Whether Brown has ability or not remains to be seen but any Stoke fan who boos or gets on the back of any player who gives his all is a moron Surely being shit at football trumps trying? Who gives a shit if they're running around if they can't kick a ball properly? The point is, booing your own players makes you a monumental bell-end
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Post by bgreen13 on Jun 24, 2021 18:08:28 GMT
Whether Brown has ability or not remains to be seen but any Stoke fan who boos or gets on the back of any player who gives his all is a moron You and I know that we have our fair share of absolute weapons that support our club. Quite a few contribute (massively) to this forum.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 24, 2021 18:10:23 GMT
Surely being shit at football trumps trying? Who gives a shit if they're running around if they can't kick a ball properly? The point is, booing your own players makes you a monumental bell-end I disagree, sometimes they deserve it.
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Vokes
Jun 24, 2021 18:21:30 GMT
Post by spitthedog on Jun 24, 2021 18:21:30 GMT
The point is, booing your own players makes you a monumental bell-end I disagree, sometimes they deserve it. so you honestly think booing a player who is not playing well in a game is helpful?
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Vokes
Jun 24, 2021 18:22:27 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 24, 2021 18:22:27 GMT
I disagree, sometimes they deserve it. so you honestly think booing a player who is not playing well in a game is helpful? I think it could kick them up the arse yeah.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 18:24:30 GMT
The point is, booing your own players makes you a monumental bell-end I disagree, sometimes they deserve it. That's because you're wired up differently 😉
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 24, 2021 18:27:17 GMT
so you honestly think booing a player who is not playing well in a game is helpful? I think it could kick them up the arse yeah. I can't think that Ive ever seen a player play markedly better because his own supporters are booing them, in 50 years of watching football.
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Vokes
Jun 24, 2021 18:32:44 GMT
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Post by chamberlain on Jun 24, 2021 18:32:44 GMT
Whether Brown has ability or not remains to be seen but any Stoke fan who boos or gets on the back of any player who gives his all is a moron Surely being shit at football trumps trying? Who gives a shit if they're running around if they can't kick a ball properly? Thats bollocks Bayern, they don't pick themselves
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Vokes
Jun 24, 2021 18:40:56 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 24, 2021 18:40:56 GMT
Surely being shit at football trumps trying? Who gives a shit if they're running around if they can't kick a ball properly? Thats bollocks Bayern, they don't pick themselves They don't but again that doesn't come into it, especially in the heat of watching a game. They were very lucky we weren't there this season.
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Jun 24, 2021 18:44:49 GMT
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Post by chamberlain on Jun 24, 2021 18:44:49 GMT
Thats bollocks Bayern, they don't pick themselves They don't but again that doesn't come into it, especially in the heat of watching a game. They were very lucky we weren't there this season. I agree some of them were lucky ,but my point still stands
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Jun 24, 2021 18:50:11 GMT
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Post by christhepotter on Jun 24, 2021 18:50:11 GMT
I disagree, sometimes they deserve it. so you honestly think booing a player who is not playing well in a game is helpful? We pay our money so have right to show frustration when players are shite , doubt they give a shit anyway as long as they collects their millions
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Vokes
Jun 24, 2021 19:00:57 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 19:00:57 GMT
Ithink Brown could be ok next season. There I've been crazy enough to say it. Will Alfie be fit to start next season?
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Jun 24, 2021 19:08:20 GMT
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Post by george2again on Jun 24, 2021 19:08:20 GMT
Vokes being booed I meant not Brown. Brown tries but he’s so bad the crowd will soon be on top of him effort or not.
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Jun 24, 2021 19:12:37 GMT
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Post by george2again on Jun 24, 2021 19:12:37 GMT
Surely being shit at football trumps trying? Who gives a shit if they're running around if they can't kick a ball properly? Thats bollocks Bayern, they don't pick themselves Sometimes the crowd have to remind the manager that if someone is awful they should not be in the team especially if the manager signed him. Many mangers can’t admit being wrong. Talentless players like Brown don’t normally get better regardless of how much effort they put in.
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Jun 24, 2021 19:19:01 GMT
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Post by chamberlain on Jun 24, 2021 19:19:01 GMT
Thats bollocks Bayern, they don't pick themselves Sometimes the crowd have to remind the manager that if someone is awful they should not be in the team especially if the manager signed him. Many mangers can’t admit being wrong. Talentless players like Brown don’t normally get better regardless of how much effort they put in. Not having it ,if players aren't putting in a shift that's different but if a player is giving his all in a Stoke shirt that's all I ask . It's hardly going to have any effect on most managers and some it will make them dig their heels in .
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 24, 2021 19:43:10 GMT
so you honestly think booing a player who is not playing well in a game is helpful? We pay our money so have right to show frustration when players are shite , doubt they give a shit anyway as long as they collects their millions depends whether you think you are customer or a supporter.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 24, 2021 19:45:31 GMT
We pay our money so have right to show frustration when players are shite , doubt they give a shit anyway as long as they collects their millions depends whether you think you are customer or a supporter I guess. Surely supporting crap play isn't actually supporting and is encouraging them to remain wank?
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 24, 2021 19:46:52 GMT
Thats bollocks Bayern, they don't pick themselves Sometimes the crowd have to remind the manager that if someone is awful they should not be in the team especially if the manager signed him. Many mangers can’t admit being wrong. Talentless players like Brown don’t normally get better regardless of how much effort they put in. sounds like you literally cannot wait to get in the ground to boo the player.
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Jun 24, 2021 19:49:41 GMT
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Post by bgreen13 on Jun 24, 2021 19:49:41 GMT
so you honestly think booing a player who is not playing well in a game is helpful? We pay our money so have right to show frustration when players are shite , doubt they give a shit anyway as long as they collects their millions Millions 😂 Can tell you're behind with the times🤣🤣
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Jun 24, 2021 19:50:18 GMT
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Post by bgreen13 on Jun 24, 2021 19:50:18 GMT
Sometimes the crowd have to remind the manager that if someone is awful they should not be in the team especially if the manager signed him. Many mangers can’t admit being wrong. Talentless players like Brown don’t normally get better regardless of how much effort they put in. sounds like you literally cannot wait to get in the ground to boo the player. Get to the ground 😂😂
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Vokes
Jun 24, 2021 19:51:39 GMT
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Post by bgreen13 on Jun 24, 2021 19:51:39 GMT
depends whether you think you are customer or a supporter I guess. Surely supporting crap play isn't actually supporting and is encouraging them to remain wank? When we keep calling you a wank supporter (which you are) you don't change though...
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Jun 24, 2021 19:53:50 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 24, 2021 19:53:50 GMT
Surely supporting crap play isn't actually supporting and is encouraging them to remain wank? When we keep calling you a wank supporter (which you are) you don't change though... Because I've been right for the last God know how many years about how shit this club is and the low standards our fanbase has. If you cared, you'd listen.
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Jun 24, 2021 19:57:10 GMT
Post by spitthedog on Jun 24, 2021 19:57:10 GMT
depends whether you think you are customer or a supporter I guess. Surely supporting crap play isn't actually supporting and is encouraging them to remain wank? When I go to watch Stoke I want the players on the pitch to better, I don't consider that booing them everytime they make a mistake and putting them under that type of pressure makes them better players. I generally consider encouragement to be a better motivator. That is not happy clapping either. You seem to think if you are not booing a player then you are actively encouraging their poor player. I think that is a ridiculous conclusion. If it works like why don't top coaches boo their players from the sidelines when they are on the field when they are playing poorly. You get manager's giving their players a good bollocking very occasionally from the side of the pitch but generally they encourage them to do better not continually criticise them. Or are they all getting it wrong?
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Vokes
Jun 24, 2021 19:59:55 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 24, 2021 19:59:55 GMT
Surely supporting crap play isn't actually supporting and is encouraging them to remain wank? When I go to watch Stoke I want the players on the pitch to better, I don't consider that booing them everytime they make a mistake and putting them under that type of pressure makes them better players. I generally consider encouragement to be a better motivator. That is not happy clapping either. You seem to think if you are not booing a player then you are actively encouraging their poor player. I think that is a ridiculous conclusion. If it works like why don't top coaches boo their players from the sidelines when they are on the field when they are playing poorly. You get manager's giving their players a good bollocking very occasionally from the side of the pitch but generally they encourage them to do better not continually criticise them. Or are they all getting it wrong? It's not every time is it? And when it happens it's a build up over months of uselessness. They will get the encouragment and nothing changes. No I haven't, there's no context there to even come close to that conclusion, it's not that black and white is it? Top coaches bollock their players up hill and down dale
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Vokes
Jun 24, 2021 20:00:27 GMT
Post by spitthedog on Jun 24, 2021 20:00:27 GMT
sounds like you literally cannot wait to get in the ground to boo the player. Get to the ground 😂😂 it was always 'get in the ground' when I lived I Fenton.
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Jun 24, 2021 20:01:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 20:01:06 GMT
I don’t think Brown is the worst of our problems. He had a decent run of form into the end of last season, despite the rest of the team playing poorly around him. If he’s not starting week in, week out, I don’t think there’s a problem there.
I don’t expect him to get drastically better, so booing him won’t help. People have limits.
I would like to see him be more aggressive however. I think that if he could do that, he’d be a markedly more effective player for us. You don’t have to be great with the ball at your feet to be a footballer outside of the Prem (though it helps), you just have to win the battles in front of you.
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Post by bgreen13 on Jun 24, 2021 20:08:18 GMT
When we keep calling you a wank supporter (which you are) you don't change though... Because I've been right for the last God know how many years about how shit this club is and the low standards our fanbase has. If you cared, you'd listen. Where do you sit in the ground bayern? I'll come sit behind you and boo your shit support.
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