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Vokes
Nov 28, 2020 23:50:25 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 28, 2020 23:50:25 GMT
I hope Pulis comes in for him, he's totally suited to playing Pulisball and he'd probably get in double figures.
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Vokes
Nov 28, 2020 23:50:31 GMT
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Post by ChesterStokie on Nov 28, 2020 23:50:31 GMT
I honestly don't know. I know we paid money that summer for Howard Kendall but I thought all the other signings were free. I reckon even at 69 David Gregory would put on a better showing than Vokes did today.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 16, 2021 13:09:20 GMT
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Vokes
Jun 16, 2021 13:13:14 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 13:13:14 GMT
Be quite a decent signing for them.
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Vokes
Jun 16, 2021 13:21:24 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Jun 16, 2021 13:21:24 GMT
At best, if true, would we be looking at about a 20-25% wage contribution?
Amazing (but not surprising obviously) when you're looking at that 2 and a half years after a £7m move.
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Vokes
Jun 16, 2021 13:23:41 GMT
Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 16, 2021 13:23:41 GMT
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Post by theonlooker on Jun 16, 2021 13:25:16 GMT
At best, if true, would we be looking at about a 20-25% wage contribution? Amazing (but not surprising obviously) when you're looking at that 2 and a half years after a £7m move. If he's on the reported 35k a week, you'd think Shrewsbury could only afford a maximum of around 5k a week, and that would be before COVID. I'd say we'll be looking at around 10% of his wage at the absolute best.
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Vokes
Jun 16, 2021 13:27:47 GMT
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Post by moon on Jun 16, 2021 13:27:47 GMT
At best, if true, would we be looking at about a 20-25% wage contribution? Amazing (but not surprising obviously) when you're looking at that 2 and a half years after a £7m move. You’d have to assume it’d be a high contribution from us, whatever percentage we get it is best he moves on though, he had a negative impact last season (not all his fault, he did try, he just had the season from hell and doesn’t look like he is up to it at this level anymore). I respect Vokes more than the others out on loan who had no intention of playing for us, at least he tried.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 16, 2021 13:32:29 GMT
At best, if true, would we be looking at about a 20-25% wage contribution? Amazing (but not surprising obviously) when you're looking at that 2 and a half years after a £7m move. If he's on the reported 35k a week, you'd think Shrewsbury could only afford a maximum of around 5k a week, and that would be before COVID. I'd say we'll be looking at around 10% of his wage at the absolute best. I'd hope he wasn't on that much, but who knows? Doubt he'll be on less than about 25k though. Hard to know how high the lower leagues will go post-Covid - but, as you say, it'll be pin money in the grand scheme of things (3-4k tops?), but at least it means he's not taking up a squad place and being a complete spare part. It'd be interesting to see what he'd be like at that level. My initial reaction is I'm not sure he's even Football league level now, even with all his know-how. If you can't move, you're not generally an asset as a striker at any decent level!
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Post by RAF on Jun 16, 2021 13:41:02 GMT
If he's on the reported 35k a week, you'd think Shrewsbury could only afford a maximum of around 5k a week, and that would be before COVID. I'd say we'll be looking at around 10% of his wage at the absolute best. I'd hope he wasn't on that much, but who knows? Doubt he'll be on less than about 25k though. Hard to know how high the lower leagues will go post-Covid - but, as you say, it'll be pin money in the grand scheme of things (3-4k tops?), but at least it means he's not taking up a squad place and being a complete spare part. It'd be interesting to see what he'd be like at that level. My initial reaction is I'm not sure he's even Football league level now, even with all his know-how. If you can't move, you're not generally an asset as a striker at any decent level! I personally don't think he would improve Alsager Town at this juncture. H
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Vokes
Jun 16, 2021 13:43:14 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 16, 2021 13:43:14 GMT
If he's on the reported 35k a week, you'd think Shrewsbury could only afford a maximum of around 5k a week, and that would be before COVID. I'd say we'll be looking at around 10% of his wage at the absolute best. I'd hope he wasn't on that much, but who knows? Doubt he'll be on less than about 25k though. Hard to know how high the lower leagues will go post-Covid - but, as you say, it'll be pin money in the grand scheme of things (3-4k tops?), but at least it means he's not taking up a squad place and being a complete spare part. It'd be interesting to see what he'd be like at that level. My initial reaction is I'm not sure he's even Football league level now, even with all his know-how. If you can't move, you're not generally an asset as a striker at any decent level! Maybe length of contract is a bigger factor at this stage of Vokes’ career. Yes, he’s still got a year left on big money here, but perhaps the added security of three years at Shrewsbury plus a decent signing on fee might be a better option for him?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 13:48:08 GMT
We don't know how much he's on but be a decent salary you'd imagine. One of those we need to shift. Daft comments aside he's managed over 100 career goals and a rate of 1 in 5 just over but be best all round if he was to continue that elsewhere. If I was a Shrews fan would be ok at the prospect
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 13:50:12 GMT
I'd hope he wasn't on that much, but who knows? Doubt he'll be on less than about 25k though. Hard to know how high the lower leagues will go post-Covid - but, as you say, it'll be pin money in the grand scheme of things (3-4k tops?), but at least it means he's not taking up a squad place and being a complete spare part. It'd be interesting to see what he'd be like at that level. My initial reaction is I'm not sure he's even Football league level now, even with all his know-how. If you can't move, you're not generally an asset as a striker at any decent level! Maybe length of contract is a bigger factor at this stage of Vokes’ career. Yes, he’s still got a year left on big money here, but perhaps the added security of three years at Shrewsbury plus a decent signing on fee might be a better option for him? I’d be surprised if it’s anything other than a loan. If he can find some goals, maybe someone will take a punt on him in January. Nonetheless, his removal will mean more space for the youngsters to come in to the squad (or it signifies that we are keeping Afobe).
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Vokes
Jun 16, 2021 14:07:10 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jun 16, 2021 14:07:10 GMT
Maybe length of contract is a bigger factor at this stage of Vokes’ career. Yes, he’s still got a year left on big money here, but perhaps the added security of three years at Shrewsbury plus a decent signing on fee might be a better option for him? I’d be surprised if it’s anything other than a loan. If he can find some goals, maybe someone will take a punt on him in January. Nonetheless, his removal will mean more space for the youngsters to come in to the squad (or it signifies that we are keeping Afobe). Would assume Vokes, Afobe and Gregory are all surplus to requirements here.
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Vokes
Jun 16, 2021 14:32:48 GMT
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jun 16, 2021 14:32:48 GMT
Be quite a decent signing for them. No, no he wouldn’t. No humour intended. Awful player
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Vokes
Jun 16, 2021 14:41:53 GMT
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Post by yyy on Jun 16, 2021 14:41:53 GMT
How can they afford his wages?
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jun 16, 2021 14:45:37 GMT
Vokes....Shrewsbury?
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Vokes
Jun 16, 2021 14:45:59 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 14:45:59 GMT
Be quite a decent signing for them. No, no he wouldn’t. No humour intended. Awful player Yep you score 100 goals by being awful. Good point
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Vokes
Jun 16, 2021 14:48:58 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 14:48:58 GMT
How can they afford his wages? I would imagine he would get a pay off from us which would compensate a huge reduction in wages perhaps. Obviously would take a massive pay cut but depends on if he wants to play regularly and have a longer term contract I guess. Would suit all parties maybe
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Vokes
Jun 16, 2021 14:58:12 GMT
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jun 16, 2021 14:58:12 GMT
No, no he wouldn’t. No humour intended. Awful player Yep you score 100 goals by being awful. Good point 100 goals😂 And how many last season? My point was as of today not at his peak. What other terminology would you use to describe his last season?
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Post by RAF on Jun 16, 2021 15:21:04 GMT
No, no he wouldn’t. No humour intended. Awful player Yep you score 100 goals by being awful. Good point Keith Scott scored 106 H
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jun 16, 2021 15:36:34 GMT
Yep you score 100 goals by being awful. Good point Keith Scott scored 106 H 😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 15:45:04 GMT
Keith Scott of course played in the top flight not the conference and scored in a Euro semi. genius comparison
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Post by thevoid on Jun 16, 2021 15:49:50 GMT
How can they afford his wages? They've probably sold a couple more mouse mats in the club shop than they anticipated.
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Vokes
Jun 16, 2021 15:55:08 GMT
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jun 16, 2021 15:55:08 GMT
Keith Scott of course played in the top flight not the conference and scored in a Euro semi. genius comparison No you’re right. Vokes 12 goals in all comps over 3 seasons with us is great, 1 goal all last season also great. 20 goals since 2017-18 season is amazing. You’ve convinced me.🤩
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Vokes
Jun 16, 2021 16:07:50 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 16:07:50 GMT
Keith Scott of course played in the top flight not the conference and scored in a Euro semi. genius comparison No you’re right. Vokes 12 goals in all comps over 3 seasons with us is great, 1 goal all last season also great. 20 goals since 2017-18 season is amazing. You’ve convinced me.🤩 considering I used none of those terms and said nothing of the sort re him it seems you've convinced yourself. Good luck with that. Try reading what I actually said.
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Vokes
Jun 16, 2021 16:12:04 GMT
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Post by RAF on Jun 16, 2021 16:12:04 GMT
No you’re right. Vokes 12 goals in all comps over 3 seasons with us is great, 1 goal all last season also great. 20 goals since 2017-18 season is amazing. You’ve convinced me.🤩 considering I used none of those terms and said nothing of the sort re him it seems you've convinced yourself. Good luck with that. What you also omitted was the level of football you were talking about, and let's not pretend all his goals were top flight. I might have milked it a bit with Keith Scott agreed but you are scraping the barrel with the 'scored a goal in a Euro semi final'! Plenty of shit players have done that. H
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Vokes
Jun 16, 2021 16:20:50 GMT
Post by spitthedog on Jun 16, 2021 16:20:50 GMT
surprising to see the word 'ambitious' and Sam Vokes in the same sentence.
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Vokes
Jun 16, 2021 16:21:17 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 16:21:17 GMT
Yep you score 100 goals by being awful. Good point 100 goals😂 And how many last season? My point was as of today not at his peak. What other terminology would you use to describe his last season? He was desperate last season which is why I said good for everyone if he leaves but if a Shrews fan would be ok with him joining them as his level these days for me. I thought was quite straight forward a comment to understand. What Keith Scott scoring goals in the conference and lower leagues has to do with it only you know. completely irrelevant if a player 20 years ago scored lots of goals in the lower leagues. quote me where I used the term 'amazing' as can't see it myself.
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Vokes
Jun 16, 2021 16:30:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 16:30:12 GMT
I’d be surprised if it’s anything other than a loan. If he can find some goals, maybe someone will take a punt on him in January. Nonetheless, his removal will mean more space for the youngsters to come in to the squad (or it signifies that we are keeping Afobe). Would assume Vokes, Afobe and Gregory are all surplus to requirements here. If we can get them off the books. Afobe feels like he would be the hardest to move on (in my opinion). Maybe Norton will be staying this season then, rather than a loan.
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