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Post by Batfink on Aug 10, 2020 17:25:29 GMT
Pompey got promoted with 29 year old Sherringham as the star player there are always exceptions having concerns re his age is perfectly valid but to write off all players 33 & older is just stupid surely? Ahhhhh 29 is not 33 ๐ He meant 39 though haha. He was also promoted with West Ham when he was 39 (3rd highest scorer in the league). He played for Pompey the year before.
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Post by mattador78 on Aug 10, 2020 17:28:37 GMT
Pompey got promoted with 29 year old Sherringham as the star player there are always exceptions having concerns re his age is perfectly valid but to write off all players 33 & older is just stupid surely? Ahhhhh 29 is not 33 ๐ Robert Prosnecki was 32 and starred in The championship for Portsmouth. He smoked about 40 a day as well. And David Silva is 34 now but Iโd rip off an arm for him to sign for Stoke this season, Iโm more in line for if heโs a signing by OโNeill then heโs welcome if heโs just a back room football director signing then itโs a no.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 10, 2020 17:29:45 GMT
Pompey got promoted with 29 year old Sherringham as the star player there are always exceptions having concerns re his age is perfectly valid but to write off all players 33 & older is just stupid surely? Ahhhhh 29 is not 33 ๐ Sheringhham was 39 when he got promoted with West Ham and was Championship player of the season that year.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 10, 2020 17:40:39 GMT
The issue is surely more about motivation than fitness. I always got the impression he couldn't be arsed, even at Chelsea.
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Post by scfc75 on Aug 10, 2020 17:47:31 GMT
At 33 no way , see fletcher , ward , Owen etc Pompey got promoted with 29 year old Sherringham as the star player there are always exceptions having concerns re his age is perfectly valid but to write off all players 33 & older is just stupid surely? Very true. Gareth Barry was excellent for WBA at 36/37. People have already quoted many more examples. Taggart was mid thirties when he turned out for us.
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 10, 2020 17:49:33 GMT
He meant 39 though haha. He was also promoted with West Ham when he was 39 (3rd highest scorer in the league). He played for Pompey the year before. ๐๐ he still looks fit now , sign him up
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 10, 2020 17:52:09 GMT
Sheringhham was 39 when he got promoted with West Ham and was Championship player of the season that year. My mum would b me dad if she had bollocks , two different players , but if he signs and proves heโs still got it then great
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 18:17:22 GMT
The issue is surely more about motivation than fitness. I always got the impression he couldn't be arsed, even at Chelsea. Looks can be deceiving. If you asked any Chelsea or Nigeria player they would tell you how essentiel he was for them.
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Post by palerider on Aug 10, 2020 18:45:03 GMT
Heโd come and take the piss,weโve got enough of them,
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 10, 2020 18:55:24 GMT
Howard Kendall was 31 when he joined Stoke and 33 when he decided to join Blackburn And he was still class at 33
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Post by dexta on Aug 10, 2020 18:58:21 GMT
Would he wear gloves
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 10, 2020 19:01:34 GMT
Howard Kendall was 31 when he joined Stoke and 33 when he decided to join Blackburn And he was still class at 33 He was quick tho as his comb over was like a sail , bit like Alan Gilzean and Bobby Charlton ๐
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Post by superjonscape on Aug 10, 2020 19:04:42 GMT
We love a motor that could blow its head gasket at anytime don't we, we must be missing fletch.
You could say he has not played much football in his career as he has been a bench player for large parts of it but how much legs has he got left?
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Post by lordb on Aug 10, 2020 19:11:49 GMT
At 33 no way , see fletcher , ward , Owen etc Pompey got promoted with 29 year old Sherringham as the star player there are always exceptions having concerns re his age is perfectly valid but to write off all players 33 & older is just stupid surely? Doh! Had a Benji moment Always check posts!
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 10, 2020 19:12:08 GMT
Howard Kendall was 31 when he joined Stoke and 33 when he decided to join Blackburn And he was still class at 33 He was quick tho as his comb over was like a sail , bit like Alan Gilzean and Bobby Charlton ๐ The good old comb over football was never the same once they started with those ridiculous perms
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 10, 2020 19:15:23 GMT
He was quick tho as his comb over was like a sail , bit like Alan Gilzean and Bobby Charlton ๐ The good old comb over football was never the same once they started with those ridiculous perms ๐๐ Alan Sunderland, Graham Rix
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 10, 2020 19:20:55 GMT
The good old comb over football was never the same once they started with those ridiculous perms ๐๐ Alan Sunderland, Graham Rix You forgot Keegan if they had given him a skinhead he'd of shrunk in half
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Post by baystokie on Aug 10, 2020 19:26:30 GMT
Its nothing more than an UBERWANK signing if it happens. He was a good player in his day. But it makes me wonder about MON's skills in the market. Pulis used to love signing an old Pro with a big name. (remember Gudjohnsen, Owen, amongst others). These signings can work on occasion, but mainly they turn out to be completely useless. Plus we have Ndiaye and Etebo on the books. Its not like we dont have quality midfielders. But fuck it lets sign a big name from a decade ago. Ndiaye and Etebo? - the former looks likely to join Besiktas and the latter was loaned to Getafe by MON so has some convincing to do to stay - assuming, of course, that he wants to? So there may be two less than you stater?
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Post by AlliG on Aug 10, 2020 19:28:47 GMT
Howard Kendall was 31 when he joined Stoke and 33 when he decided to join Blackburn And he was still class at 33 He was quick tho as his comb over was like a sail , bit like Alan Gilzean and Bobby Charlton ๐ Don't knock the good old comb over. It was watching Bobby Charlton and Ralph Coates that convinced me that the short cropped look was the way to go when my hair started falling out.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 10, 2020 19:46:55 GMT
Sheringhham was 39 when he got promoted with West Ham and was Championship player of the season that year. My issue with the blue rinse brigade is we already have an old squad, it doesn't need more experience and age. Indeed that's exactly what has got us here.
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 10, 2020 20:24:59 GMT
๐๐ Alan Sunderland, Graham Rix You forgot Keegan if they had given him a skinhead he'd of shrunk in half ๐๐
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Post by Goonie on Aug 10, 2020 21:33:37 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Aug 10, 2020 21:42:23 GMT
The issue is surely more about motivation than fitness. I always got the impression he couldn't be arsed, even at Chelsea. At Chelsea he was a bit part player on good money. Younger so maybe bothered about not playing regularly but happy with the money. As you get older (plus set up for life already) maybe he wants to play. I remember an interview he gave when he left Chelsea saying he wanted games.
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Post by jayscfc1863 on Aug 11, 2020 9:07:27 GMT
we have Ndiaye and Etebo on the books. Its not like we dont have quality midfielders. But fuck it lets sign a big name from a decade ago. Also have to remember that one of these players was playing with him in the league all season and the other is his international countryman. Is it plausible at all that having mikel here could actually give the two of them (or at least one - preferably the latter) a kick up the arse to turn out for us with a bit of enthusiasm ? Assuming Ndiaye sods off to turkey full time, a midfield selection of Mikel, Etebo, Clucas, Allen, Cousins Powell etc, starting to look like a side taht could challenge the top just wish we had a bit more pace.
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 11, 2020 10:53:30 GMT
we have Ndiaye and Etebo on the books. Its not like we dont have quality midfielders. But fuck it lets sign a big name from a decade ago. Also have to remember that one of these players was playing with him in the league all season and the other is his international countryman. Is it plausible at all that having mikel here could actually give the two of them (or at least one - preferably the latter) a kick up the arse to turn out for us with a bit of enthusiasm ? Assuming Ndiaye sods off to turkey full time, a midfield selection of Mikel, Etebo, Clucas, Allen, Cousins Powell etc, starting to look like a side taht could challenge the top just wish we had a bit more pace. Thing is, if we brought in Mikel he'd be coming here to play, not be mentor to Badou and Etebo. And you're never going to be able to play them in the same team anyway. In a 4-3-3, you'll have the one CDM. Mikel or Badou could take that role, but the other two midfield positions are not really suited to these players. In a 4-2-3-1, You again could have Mikel and one of Badou or Etebo as the two CDMs, but that alienates Clucas who has found his position in that role. Put him anywhere else and he isn't the same. Given Badou and Etebo's dodgy attitude, we're better of sending them out on loan and bringing in Mikel.
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Post by datguy on Aug 11, 2020 10:56:38 GMT
The issue is surely more about motivation than fitness. I always got the impression he couldn't be arsed, even at Chelsea. At Chelsea he was a bit part player on good money. Younger so maybe bothered about not playing regularly but happy with the money. As you get older (plus set up for life already) maybe he wants to play. I remember an interview he gave when he left Chelsea saying he wanted games. Yes but he left Chelsea for Tianjin TEDA. There's only one reason a footballer aged 29 goes to China.
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Post by sifta on Aug 11, 2020 11:05:01 GMT
Strachan was 32 when he joined Leeds, and had 5 years there, plus another 2 at Coventry in the top flight.
McAllister left Leeds at 32, and went on to have another 8 years at the top, including 2 years at Liverpool arriving when he was 36, and walking away with 5 trophies.
It all boils down to decent due dilligence when signing, (Plus a chunk of luck).
If his body and mind are in decent order I'd seriously consider him. That's the type of decision that MON will get paid the big bucks for.
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Post by datguy on Aug 11, 2020 11:07:11 GMT
Strachan was 32 when he joined Leeds, and had 5 years there, plus another 2 at Coventry in the top flight. McAllister left Leeds at 32, and went on to have another 8 years at the top, including 2 years at Liverpool arriving when he was 36, and walking away with 5 trophies. It all boils down to decent due dilligence when signing, (Plus a chunk of luck). If his body and mind are in decent order I'd seriously consider him. That's the type of decision that MON will get paid the big bucks for. There's a bloke in his 50s playing in the Japanese leagues still. Fuck it - that one example means everyone can still play up to 50. I don't understand all of this X was 35 so Y must be good...
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Post by sifta on Aug 11, 2020 11:15:23 GMT
Strachan was 32 when he joined Leeds, and had 5 years there, plus another 2 at Coventry in the top flight. McAllister left Leeds at 32, and went on to have another 8 years at the top, including 2 years at Liverpool arriving when he was 36, and walking away with 5 trophies. It all boils down to decent due dilligence when signing, (Plus a chunk of luck). If his body and mind are in decent order I'd seriously consider him. That's the type of decision that MON will get paid the big bucks for. There's a bloke in his 50s playing in the Japanese leagues still. Fuck it - that one example means everyone can still play up to 50. I don't understand all of this X was 35 so Y must be good...
100% the opposite,
I'm not saying "must be good", I'm saying "not necessarily shite."
The older players get, the less likely it is they can still cut it, but there are examples out there that a decent manager can find a few gems if luck is on his side.
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 11, 2020 11:15:27 GMT
At Chelsea he was a bit part player on good money. Younger so maybe bothered about not playing regularly but happy with the money. As you get older (plus set up for life already) maybe he wants to play. I remember an interview he gave when he left Chelsea saying he wanted games. Yes but he left Chelsea for Tianjin TEDA. There's only one reason a footballer aged 29 goes to China. But don't forget he did come back to the UK to play for Middlesbrough in the Championshp. In terms of lifestyle and money, that's quite a comedown so you have to assume he wanted to be challenged again. I also commend his integrity for quitting Trabzonspor due to the Covid pandemic.
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