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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 22, 2020 21:29:51 GMT
Another good game for Gregory tonight and another strikers goal. He's had a solid end to a funny old season. Genuinely think he could be a useful option next season. Mobile, hard worker, occupies defenders and is starting to recover his goalscoring touch under MON. Really? Nothing stuck up front. Him and Vokes were pretty comical.
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Post by SCFC92 on Jul 22, 2020 21:46:24 GMT
Another good game for Gregory tonight and another strikers goal. He's had a solid end to a funny old season. Genuinely think he could be a useful option next season. Mobile, hard worker, occupies defenders and is starting to recover his goalscoring touch under MON. Really? Nothing stuck up front. Him and Vokes were pretty comical. We scored 4... Gregory got 1 of them. You're wrong.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 22, 2020 21:47:47 GMT
Really? Nothing stuck up front. Him and Vokes were pretty comical. We scored 4... Gregory got 1 of them. You're wrong. I’m not. 3 of the goals came on the counter when Forest got desperate for some reason. We were awful for 75 minutes tonight and them pair up front played a big part in that. Absolutely nothing stuck.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 22, 2020 21:51:37 GMT
He's finished the season reasonably well
but one thing is for sure, if we stick with Gregory we will not get promoted. 100%
Depends what our aim is for next season.
I hope this result does not lead to rose-tinted glasses
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 22, 2020 21:55:51 GMT
but one thing is for sure, if we stick with Gregory we will not get promoted. 100% Depends what our aim is for next season. I hope this result does not lead to rose-tinted glasses Can easily substitute the name Vokes there. Its equally a fact. He's fucking wank.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 22, 2020 21:56:45 GMT
but one thing is for sure, if we stick with Gregory we will not get promoted. 100% Depends what our aim is for next season. I hope this result does not lead to rose-tinted glasses Can easily substitute the name Vokes there. Its equally a fact. He's fucking wank. I wouldn't argue with that, but since the thread is about Gregory.....
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 22, 2020 21:59:35 GMT
Can easily substitute the name Vokes there. Its equally a fact. He's fucking wank. I wouldn't argue with that, but since the thread is about Gregory..... Agreed. But if it came to one or the other with the proviso they would be coming off the bench and filling in then I'd honestly stick with Gregory at least he can move and run. We won't get promoted with either starting regularly.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jul 22, 2020 22:05:47 GMT
There's no way we'd be able to but I'd love us to offload Sam Vokes.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 22, 2020 23:03:19 GMT
We scored 4... Gregory got 1 of them. You're wrong. I’m not. 3 of the goals came on the counter when Forest got desperate for some reason. We were awful for 75 minutes tonight and them pair up front played a big part in that. Absolutely nothing stuck. Scoreline flattered us but Gregory did some decent runs and made himself available. Some of Ty's control was impressive today, the sort of thing you need to keep the ball at the right end of the pitch. If we have Powell & Clucas just behind and a new winger or Tymon plays like today then I don't why we'd throw Gregory out. We're fucked for cash by FFP and I reckon he could do an alright job, I also like the lad for his effort. Seems the sort of player the dressing room needs even if he's not the one to lead the line.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 22, 2020 23:05:53 GMT
I’m not. 3 of the goals came on the counter when Forest got desperate for some reason. We were awful for 75 minutes tonight and them pair up front played a big part in that. Absolutely nothing stuck. Scoreline flattered us but Gregory did some decent runs and made himself available. Some of Ty's control was impressive today, the sort of thing you need to keep the ball at the right end of the pitch. If we have Powell & Clucas just behind and a new winger or Tymon plays like today then I don't why we'd throw Gregory out. We're fucked for cash by FFP and I reckon he could do an alright job, I also like the lad for his effort. Seems the sort of player the dressing room needs even if he's not the one to lead the line. Thought Campbell looked good when he came, a complete contrast to Saturday. Tymon shouldn’t be trusted at left back tbh. But he should be looked at as on option on the wing imo. I just thought him and Vokes were piss poor tbh.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 22, 2020 23:13:20 GMT
Scoreline flattered us but Gregory did some decent runs and made himself available. Some of Ty's control was impressive today, the sort of thing you need to keep the ball at the right end of the pitch. If we have Powell & Clucas just behind and a new winger or Tymon plays like today then I don't why we'd throw Gregory out. We're fucked for cash by FFP and I reckon he could do an alright job, I also like the lad for his effort. Seems the sort of player the dressing room needs even if he's not the one to lead the line. Thought Campbell looked good when he came, a complete contrast to Saturday. Tymon shouldn’t be trusted at left back tbh. But he should be looked at as on option on the wing imo. I just thought him and Vokes were piss poor tbh. I'm about 3 miles high on the win today but if Forest had taken their 2 early chances I'd probably be bitching about how the forwards didn't hold things up too. I reckon part of the problem early on was our failure to control anything from CM to the right hand side, leaving the lads up front chasing everything instead of being on the front foot. Gregory's no Ricky Fuller but he can press, he can pounce and a few of his runs were very tidy, even though you know that if we pick him out he'll probably bury it into row Z. I'm a big fan of anyone who'll commit fully to the club and I think he's got enough about him that he can play a decent role in next year's squad. I'd be less bothered to lose Ince, even though he's clearly got more flashy talents.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 22, 2020 23:18:56 GMT
Thought Campbell looked good when he came, a complete contrast to Saturday. Tymon shouldn’t be trusted at left back tbh. But he should be looked at as on option on the wing imo. I just thought him and Vokes were piss poor tbh. I'm about 3 miles high on the win today but if Forest had taken their 2 early chances I'd probably be bitching about how the forwards didn't hold things up too. I reckon part of the problem early on was our failure to control anything from CM to the right hand side, leaving the lads up front chasing everything instead of being on the front foot. Gregory's no Ricky Fuller but he can press, he can pounce and a few of his runs were very tidy, even though you know that if we pick him out he'll probably bury it into row Z. I'm a big fan of anyone who'll commit fully to the club and I think he's got enough about him that he can play a decent role in next year's squad. I'd be less bothered to lose Ince, even though he's clearly got more flashy talents. We were lucky not to be two down before we scored for sure. I thought we were awful tbh until about the 75th minute. The midfield were completely awol agree but when we went long to try and bypass them absolutely nothing stuck. I just think Gregory is league one standard along with a few of them- Thompson, Cousins and Lindsay. I’d get rid of them all in a flash.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 22, 2020 23:20:08 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 22, 2020 23:20:49 GMT
Scoreline flattered us but Gregory did some decent runs and made himself available. Some of Ty's control was impressive today, the sort of thing you need to keep the ball at the right end of the pitch. If we have Powell & Clucas just behind and a new winger or Tymon plays like today then I don't why we'd throw Gregory out. We're fucked for cash by FFP and I reckon he could do an alright job, I also like the lad for his effort. Seems the sort of player the dressing room needs even if he's not the one to lead the line. Thought Campbell looked good when he came, a complete contrast to Saturday. Tymon shouldn’t be trusted at left back tbh. But he should be looked at as on option on the wing imo. I just thought him and Vokes were piss poor tbh. Campbell looked angry and excellent when he came on.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 22, 2020 23:24:24 GMT
Thought Campbell looked good when he came, a complete contrast to Saturday. Tymon shouldn’t be trusted at left back tbh. But he should be looked at as on option on the wing imo. I just thought him and Vokes were piss poor tbh. Campbell looked angry and excellent when he came on. He really did and it made a difference for sure. He held it up better than them pair and could actually find a Stoke player. Has to start more often than not next season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 23:26:49 GMT
Gregory’s only saving grace is he looked half decent with Campbell earlier in the season and the new formation looks like it could get the best out that partnership as well as others.
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Post by neddy on Aug 30, 2020 7:59:01 GMT
Great ball from Powell first half......awful effort which seems to sum him up in front of goal?
Good lad puts in a shift etc but he just cant seem to take reasonable chances. Can’t see it changing at this stage of his career?
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Post by somersetstokie on Aug 30, 2020 8:16:17 GMT
I'm becoming very cynical regarding some of these adequate but limited footballers who feature in headlines such as this, (Gregory says he wants to stay), or others of the type "Brunt keen to revive Stoke move."
Of course they all want to be at Stoke as we are often their only option to continue playing at a high level, plus we must be the highest paying employers in the Division, offering money that these players won't match anywhere else.
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 30, 2020 8:36:08 GMT
I want to see Gregory gone, he works hard, but he isn't clinical enough and not good in the air either. I also hope we can offload Badou, looks promising, Butland, Lindsay, Indi, Ince, one of our right backs (Bauer, Edwards, Smith), Wimmer of course and Etebo (unfortunately). Maybe wise to send Edwards, Sørensen, Souttar or Collins out on loan to get more experience as well with a short recall installed in the loan deals.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 30, 2020 10:36:15 GMT
I want to see Gregory gone, he works hard, but he isn't clinical enough and not good in the air either. I also hope we can offload Badou, looks promising, Butland, Lindsay, Indi, Ince, one of our right backs (Bauer, Edwards, Smith), Wimmer of course and Etebo (unfortunately). Maybe wise to send Edwards, Sørensen, Souttar or Collins out on loan to get more experience as well with a short recall installed in the loan deals. He seems to be able to make himself available mostly by coming deep and collecting the ball from midfield positions, but all he does is lay the ball off even deeper from where it came from in the first place and then he's kind of in no man's land for any attacking threat. In the rare occasions where the midfield do manage to thread a ball through to him, he most likely misses. Yesterday I didn't see any kind of understanding between him and Afobe. It's not surprising he wants to stay. I'd be amazed if he's got any other options without a massive pay cut.
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Post by march4 on Aug 30, 2020 10:41:17 GMT
I don’t see much difference in Afobe and Gregory really. Both will be on the subs bench if they stay.
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 30, 2020 10:42:11 GMT
I want to see Gregory gone, he works hard, but he isn't clinical enough and not good in the air either. I also hope we can offload Badou, looks promising, Butland, Lindsay, Indi, Ince, one of our right backs (Bauer, Edwards, Smith), Wimmer of course and Etebo (unfortunately). Maybe wise to send Edwards, Sørensen, Souttar or Collins out on loan to get more experience as well with a short recall installed in the loan deals. He seems to be able to make himself available mostly by coming deep and collecting the ball from midfield positions, but all he does is lay the ball off even deeper from where it came from in the first place and then he's kind of in no man's land for any attacking threat. In the rare occasions where the midfield do manage to thread a ball through to him, he most likely misses. Yesterday I didn't see any kind of understanding between him and Afobe. It's not surprising he wants to stay. I'd be amazed if he's got any other options without a massive pay cut. My guess personally is that him 'wanting to stay' is immaterial because no other club will buy him anyway.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 30, 2020 10:44:58 GMT
He seems to be able to make himself available mostly by coming deep and collecting the ball from midfield positions, but all he does is lay the ball off even deeper from where it came from in the first place and then he's kind of in no man's land for any attacking threat. In the rare occasions where the midfield do manage to thread a ball through to him, he most likely misses. Yesterday I didn't see any kind of understanding between him and Afobe. It's not surprising he wants to stay. I'd be amazed if he's got any other options without a massive pay cut. My guess personally is that him 'wanting to stay' is immaterial because no other club will buy him anyway. My guess is he'll follow Jones to Luton on loan.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 30, 2020 10:57:03 GMT
My guess personally is that him 'wanting to stay' is immaterial because no other club will buy him anyway. My guess is he'll follow Jones to Luton on loan. If Gregory had taken half his chances when Jones was manager then Jones would not have been sacked, off the top of my head he cost us three points at sheff weds and three early on at charlton
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2020 10:58:36 GMT
An awful player in everything he does. Needs to go sooner rather than later.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 30, 2020 11:02:16 GMT
I thought he played alright but once again failed in his main job.
Surely the one in trouble after yesterday's showing is Vokes. In ten minutes flat Fetcher proved himself vastly superior in every single facet of forward play. Every single one.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 30, 2020 11:03:58 GMT
My guess is he'll follow Jones to Luton on loan. If Gregory had taken half his chances when Jones was manager then Jones would not have been sacked, off the top of my head he cost us three points at sheff weds and three early on at charlton We should build a statue to him if he was complicit in getting the bluffer sacked!
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Post by lordb on Aug 30, 2020 11:09:51 GMT
My guess personally is that him 'wanting to stay' is immaterial because no other club will buy him anyway. My guess is he'll follow Jones to Luton on loan. Out of their budget presumably
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 30, 2020 11:16:33 GMT
I want to see Gregory gone, he works hard, but he isn't clinical enough and not good in the air either. I also hope we can offload Badou, looks promising, Butland, Lindsay, Indi, Ince, one of our right backs (Bauer, Edwards, Smith), Wimmer of course and Etebo (unfortunately). Maybe wise to send Edwards, Sørensen, Souttar or Collins out on loan to get more experience as well with a short recall installed in the loan deals. You can’t have short recall loans
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 30, 2020 11:18:11 GMT
I thought he played alright but once again failed in his main job. Surely the one in trouble after yesterday's showing is Vokes. In ten minutes flat Fetcher proved himself vastly superior in every single facet of forward play. Every single one. Agreed, a level of football intelligence in a central striker that we have not seen for some time. Needs some pace around him and we will be a threat
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