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Post by Gods on Dec 29, 2019 23:49:15 GMT
I think it's fair to take a look after 11 matches and these are the raw numbers:
Played 11
Won 5
Drawn 1
Lost 5
Goals For 20
Goals Against 15
Goal Difference +5
Points 16
In of itself if projected through an entire season it would see us finish on 67 points. No great shakes but typically good enough for 12th/13th or so.
We may not yet know the right way to go, but at least we have stopped going in the wrong direction.
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Post by GoBoks on Dec 30, 2019 0:53:20 GMT
I think it's fair to take a look after 10 matches and these are the raw numbers: Played 10 Won 4 Drawn 1 Lost 5 Goals For 15 Goals Against 13 Goal Difference +2 Points 13 In of itself if projected through an entire season it would see us finish on 60 points. No great shakes but typically good enough for 14th/15th or so. We may not yet know the right way to go, but at least we have stopped going in the wrong direction. And remember this is the exact same group that couldn't buy a win a few weeks ago. I think the numbers will improve as we shake up the squad. |
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Post by tachyon on Dec 30, 2019 9:32:27 GMT
Attachment DeletedHere's the xG created and allowed under the three managers we've had this season. The Wednesday game is a slight outlier in a small sample batch, but even without it there's been a slight uptick in our creativity and improvement in the quality and quantity of chances we're allowing under MON
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Post by MrFlirty on Dec 30, 2019 9:40:03 GMT
Turn a few of those losses in to draws is the next step
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Post by Gods on Dec 30, 2019 10:06:52 GMT
Turn a few of those losses in to draws is the next step Yes, that is what is killing us, I've lost count under both managers of the matches we didn't do enough to win but certainly should not have gone on to lose, we almost never dig out a draw. |
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Post by thevoid on Dec 30, 2019 10:17:08 GMT
Compared to Mad Nath he's Brian Clough
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Post by Cast no shadow on Dec 30, 2019 10:36:33 GMT
View AttachmentHere's the xG created and allowed under the three managers we've had this season. The Wednesday game is a slight outlier in a small sample batch, but even without it there's been a slight uptick in our creativity and improvement in the quality and quantity of chances we're allowing under MON Fuck your xg off |
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Post by Gods on Dec 30, 2019 10:36:48 GMT
The marginally positive GD is a plus too, it's not much fun getting your arse served up on a plate every 3 weeks or so.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 10:51:42 GMT
Turn a few of those losses in to draws is the next step Yes, that is what is killing us, I've lost count under both managers of the matches we didn't do enough to win but certainly should not have gone on to lose, we almost never dig out a draw. I'll be honest this one's on me, we drew a fuck tonne under Rowett and I drunkenly made some sort of deal with the devil where we'd stop drawing so fucking much, anyways he monkey paw'd me bigtime and now we have just lost everything ever since. Sorry lads. |
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Post by Gods on Dec 30, 2019 10:59:00 GMT
Yes, that is what is killing us, I've lost count under both managers of the matches we didn't do enough to win but certainly should not have gone on to lose, we almost never dig out a draw. I'll be honest this one's on me, we drew a fuck tonne under Rowett and I drunkenly made some sort of deal with the devil where we'd stop drawing so fucking much, anyways he monkey paw'd me bigtime and now we have just lost everything ever since. Sorry lads. In fairness to you I expect you thought fewer bloody draws would mean more wins but it didn't turn out that way it meant more losses. You also likely thought we'd be nearer the top where you lose ground with a draw and not the bottom where you at least hold your own! We just need to somehow stay up and push forward next season. It's far from guaranteed if we did go down we would come straight back up. We'd run in to former foes like perhaps Sunderland, Ipswich and Portsmouth along with whoever went down with us all with ambitions of their own. It wouldn't be pretty. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 11:04:22 GMT
I'll be honest this one's on me, we drew a fuck tonne under Rowett and I drunkenly made some sort of deal with the devil where we'd stop drawing so fucking much, anyways he monkey paw'd me bigtime and now we have just lost everything ever since. Sorry lads. In fairness to you I expect you thought fewer bloody draws would mean more wins but it didn't turn out that way it meant more losses. You also likely thought we'd be nearer the top where you lose ground with a draw and not the bottom where you at least hold your own! We just need to somehow stay up and push forward next season. This January is massive and much more than season defining, the entire future of the club relies on this next month imo. Next year we could fade to a nothingness and linger in League 1 like Pompey, Sunderland, Blackpool and the like. Or we could be competing in the Championship, recruitment defines Championship clubs far more than coaching. |
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Post by dannymadeley30 on Dec 30, 2019 11:11:14 GMT
I think it's fair to take a look after 10 matches and these are the raw numbers: Played 10 Won 4 Drawn 1 Lost 5 Goals For 15 Goals Against 13 Goal Difference +2 Points 13 In of itself if projected through an entire season it would see us finish on 60 points. No great shakes but typically good enough for 14th/15th or so. We may not yet know the right way to go, but at least we have stopped going in the wrong direction. Three of the wins were against the teams below us, and the Sheff Wed win was very fortunate as we know. Wigan and Barnsley have a lot more about them in terms of character than we do and for me, we are very much odds on to be relegated. |
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Post by westgatelakes on Dec 30, 2019 11:25:14 GMT
I think it's fair to take a look after 10 matches and these are the raw numbers: Played 10 Won 4 Drawn 1 Lost 5 Goals For 15 Goals Against 13 Goal Difference +2 Points 13 In of itself if projected through an entire season it would see us finish on 60 points. No great shakes but typically good enough for 14th/15th or so. We may not yet know the right way to go, but at least we have stopped going in the wrong direction. and 3 games where we`ve scored three goals or more when compared with the previous 80+ |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 11:25:57 GMT
I think it's fair to take a look after 10 matches and these are the raw numbers: Played 10 Won 4 Drawn 1 Lost 5 Goals For 15 Goals Against 13 Goal Difference +2 Points 13 In of itself if projected through an entire season it would see us finish on 60 points. No great shakes but typically good enough for 14th/15th or so. We may not yet know the right way to go, but at least we have stopped going in the wrong direction. Three of the wins were against the teams below us, and the Sheff Wed win was very fortunate as we know. Wigan and Barnsley have a lot more about them in terms of character than we do and for me, we are very much odds on to be relegated. We completely dominated Sheffield Wednesday and fully deserved the victory. The fact that we've recently beaten the 3 teams below us means there's a good chance we're better than them, although we have to prove that over a longer period of time. In the period since O'Neill Joined Wigan have gained 6 pts, Luton 7 pts and Barnsley 12 pts compared to our 13 pts...... |
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Post by bigvern on Dec 30, 2019 11:33:57 GMT
I think it's fair to take a look after 10 matches and these are the raw numbers: Played 10 Won 4 Drawn 1 Lost 5 Goals For 15 Goals Against 13 Goal Difference +2 Points 13 In of itself if projected through an entire season it would see us finish on 60 points. No great shakes but typically good enough for 14th/15th or so. We may not yet know the right way to go, but at least we have stopped going in the wrong direction. Three of the wins were against the teams below us, and the Sheff Wed win was very fortunate as we know. Wigan and Barnsley have a lot more about them in terms of character than we do and for me, we are very much odds on to be relegated. Sorry but you are talking complete shite there. Fortunate against Wednesday. really? Wigan and Barnsley have more character than us. Not sure how you can come to that conclusion. Stoke odds on to go down? Good job you don't compile the odds at Bet365 |
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Post by mistergumby on Dec 30, 2019 11:34:00 GMT
I think it's fair to take a look after 10 matches and these are the raw numbers: Played 10 Won 4 Drawn 1 Lost 5 Goals For 15 Goals Against 13 Goal Difference +2 Points 13 In of itself if projected through an entire season it would see us finish on 60 points. No great shakes but typically good enough for 14th/15th or so. We may not yet know the right way to go, but at least we have stopped going in the wrong direction.  |
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 30, 2019 11:35:15 GMT
I think it's fair to take a look after 10 matches and these are the raw numbers: Played 10 Won 4 Drawn 1 Lost 5 Goals For 15 Goals Against 13 Goal Difference +2 Points 13 In of itself if projected through an entire season it would see us finish on 60 points. No great shakes but typically good enough for 14th/15th or so. We may not yet know the right way to go, but at least we have stopped going in the wrong direction. Three of the wins were against the teams below us, and the Sheff Wed win was very fortunate as we know. Wigan and Barnsley have a lot more about them in terms of character than we do and for me, we are very much odds on to be relegated. Fingers crossed eh lad? |
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 30, 2019 11:40:16 GMT
I think it's fair to take a look after 10 matches and these are the raw numbers: Played 10 Won 4 Drawn 1 Lost 5 Goals For 15 Goals Against 13 Goal Difference +2 Points 13 In of itself if projected through an entire season it would see us finish on 60 points. No great shakes but typically good enough for 14th/15th or so. We may not yet know the right way to go, but at least we have stopped going in the wrong direction. Three of the wins were against the teams below us, and the Sheff Wed win was very fortunate as we know. Wigan and Barnsley have a lot more about them in terms of character than we do and for me, we are very much odds on to be relegated. Every silver lining has a cloud... |
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Post by harryh157 on Dec 30, 2019 11:44:26 GMT
Three of the wins were against the teams below us, and the Sheff Wed win was very fortunate as we know. Wigan and Barnsley have a lot more about them in terms of character than we do and for me, we are very much odds on to be relegated. Sorry but you are talking complete shite there. Fortunate against Wednesday. really? Wigan and Barnsley have more character than us. Not sure how you can come to that conclusion. Stoke odds on to go down? Good job you don't compile the odds at Bet365 Just about to post the same thing. Odds checker have 4 other teams more likely to go down than us. MON inherited a poor squad and has had no chance to rectify the short comings. We’ve played ok in the last few games and I’m more confident that we will stay up than before he arrived. I think people are obsessively negative either so they can rejoice in their foresight in the event of it eventually coming true or have become accustomed to things going badly after the last couple of years or so and so expect the worst outcome |
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Post by thevoid on Dec 30, 2019 11:50:47 GMT
Three of the wins were against the teams below us, and the Sheff Wed win was very fortunate as we know. Wigan and Barnsley have a lot more about them in terms of character than we do and for me, we are very much odds on to be relegated. We completely dominated Sheffield Wednesday and fully deserved the victory. The fact that we've recently beaten the 3 teams below us means there's a good chance we're better than them, although we have to prove that over a longer period of time. In the period since O'Neill Joined Wigan have gained 6 pts, Luton 7 pts and Barnsley 12 pts compared to our 13 pts...... He's spat his dummy out because Pulis isn't gaffer. Anything the new manager does won't be enough. Pulis fan rather than a Stoke fan is Danny Boy |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 11:50:47 GMT
View AttachmentHere's the xG created and allowed under the three managers we've had this season. The Wednesday game is a slight outlier in a small sample batch, but even without it there's been a slight uptick in our creativity and improvement in the quality and quantity of chances we're allowing under MON That Hull game... what a shitshow that was. |
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Post by thevoid on Dec 30, 2019 11:56:02 GMT
I think it's fair to take a look after 10 matches and these are the raw numbers: Played 10 Won 4 Drawn 1 Lost 5 Goals For 15 Goals Against 13 Goal Difference +2 Points 13 In of itself if projected through an entire season it would see us finish on 60 points. No great shakes but typically good enough for 14th/15th or so. We may not yet know the right way to go, but at least we have stopped going in the wrong direction. Three of the wins were against the teams below us, and the Sheff Wed win was very fortunate as we know. Wigan and Barnsley have a lot more about them in terms of character than we do and for me, we are very much odds on to be relegated. So the Sheffield Weds comeback didn't show character and Wigan (who regularly concede late goals) have more character than us despite losing from a winning position against us? You'd have spaffed over your keyboard if we'd had that Owls result under TP. You couldn't even offer any positivity during the win at Barnsley because your hero wasn't in the dug out. You're like a petulant child. TP fan, not a Stoke fan. |
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Post by iglugluk on Dec 30, 2019 12:04:26 GMT
I'll be honest this one's on me, we drew a fuck tonne under Rowett and I drunkenly made some sort of deal with the devil where we'd stop drawing so fucking much, anyways he monkey paw'd me bigtime and now we have just lost everything ever since. Sorry lads. In fairness to you I expect you thought fewer bloody draws would mean more wins but it didn't turn out that way it meant more losses. You also likely thought we'd be nearer the top where you lose ground with a draw and not the bottom where you at least hold your own! We just need to somehow stay up and push forward next season. It's far from guaranteed if we did go down we would come straight back up. We'd run in to former foes like perhaps Sunderland, Ipswich and Portsmouth along with whoever went down with us all with ambitions of their own. It wouldn't be pretty. So your happy to accept that the 'deal with the devil' worked then?  |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 30, 2019 12:27:23 GMT
He’s done very well in trying circumstances for me, sure some of his shit is a bit baffling but he’s relatively consistent and calm and appears to have put a bit of backbone into our jellyfish
If he keeps us up, and I don’t care how the football looks doing it, he’ll have done an excellent job.
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Post by milky on Dec 30, 2019 12:33:53 GMT
I think it's fair to take a look after 10 matches and these are the raw numbers: Played 10 Won 4 Drawn 1 Lost 5 Goals For 15 Goals Against 13 Goal Difference +2 Points 13 In of itself if projected through an entire season it would see us finish on 60 points. No great shakes but typically good enough for 14th/15th or so. We may not yet know the right way to go, but at least we have stopped going in the wrong direction. Three of the wins were against the teams below us, and the Sheff Wed win was very fortunate as we know. Wigan and Barnsley have a lot more about them in terms of character than we do and for me, we are very much odds on to be relegated. He isn't coming back.Ever.You need to accept it before it ruins your life. |
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Post by dannymadeley30 on Dec 30, 2019 12:50:51 GMT
Three of the wins were against the teams below us, and the Sheff Wed win was very fortunate as we know. Wigan and Barnsley have a lot more about them in terms of character than we do and for me, we are very much odds on to be relegated. Sorry but you are talking complete shite there. Fortunate against Wednesday. really? Wigan and Barnsley have more character than us. Not sure how you can come to that conclusion. Stoke odds on to go down? Good job you don't compile the odds at Bet365 Check where I am in the prediction league, and I've made plenty this season from 365 as we have been way too short to win games and our opponents way too long to beat us. |
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Post by Gods on Dec 30, 2019 13:11:58 GMT
In fairness to you I expect you thought fewer bloody draws would mean more wins but it didn't turn out that way it meant more losses. You also likely thought we'd be nearer the top where you lose ground with a draw and not the bottom where you at least hold your own! We just need to somehow stay up and push forward next season. It's far from guaranteed if we did go down we would come straight back up. We'd run in to former foes like perhaps Sunderland, Ipswich and Portsmouth along with whoever went down with us all with ambitions of their own. It wouldn't be pretty. So your happy to accept that the 'deal with the devil' worked then? 'deal with the devil' you've got me with that  |
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Post by iglugluk on Dec 30, 2019 13:59:29 GMT
So your happy to accept that the 'deal with the devil' worked then? 'deal with the devil' you've got me with that I was commenting on your reply to iwe's post claiming his drunken deal with the devil apparently brought this on us.  |
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Post by Gods on Dec 30, 2019 14:04:25 GMT
'deal with the devil' you've got me with that I was commenting on your reply to iwe's post claiming his drunken deal with the devil apparently brought this on us. Oh gotcha, my dimwitted'ness !  |
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Post by iglugluk on Dec 30, 2019 14:08:40 GMT
I was commenting on your reply to iwe's post claiming his drunken deal with the devil apparently brought this on us. Oh gotcha, my dimwitted'ness ! I hasten to add that my 'like' in no way agrees with your self-assessment of dimwittedness. Clearly not the cae |
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