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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 14:20:58 GMT
We're awful to watch and I don't see MON as the one to take us forward long term, based on what we've shown so far.
Happy to be proven wrong and I haven't completely given up on him but hopefully we survive and move on to someone long term in summer.
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Post by Linx on Dec 30, 2019 14:46:53 GMT
We're awful to watch and I don't see MON as the one to take us forward long term, based on what we've shown so far. Happy to be proven wrong and I haven't completely given up on him but hopefully we survive and move on to someone long term in summer. You seriously think that if MON keeps us up the board will replace him at the end of the season? I don’t much like the long ball we seem to be playing with him but needs must and if the direct approach digs us out of a hole then I’ll take that. For now, I’m happy to see us compete more and not get rolled over every week by shit teams.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 14:51:48 GMT
We're awful to watch and I don't see MON as the one to take us forward long term, based on what we've shown so far. Happy to be proven wrong and I haven't completely given up on him but hopefully we survive and move on to someone long term in summer. What's his contact,3,4 years ? That's pretty long term
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 30, 2019 15:15:32 GMT
We're awful to watch and I don't see MON as the one to take us forward long term, based on what we've shown so far. Happy to be proven wrong and I haven't completely given up on him but hopefully we survive and move on to someone long term in summer. What's his contact,3,4 years ? That's pretty long term Pretty stupid, we would have been better getting a short term fix ala Pulis who has the knowledge and experience to have kept us up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 15:20:28 GMT
We're awful to watch and I don't see MON as the one to take us forward long term, based on what we've shown so far. Happy to be proven wrong and I haven't completely given up on him but hopefully we survive and move on to someone long term in summer. You seriously think that if MON keeps us up the board will replace him at the end of the season? I don’t much like the long ball we seem to be playing with him but needs must and if the direct approach digs us out of a hole then I’ll take that. For now, I’m happy to see us compete more and not get rolled over every week by shit teams. No, I very much doubt they will. I want them to though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 15:21:00 GMT
We're awful to watch and I don't see MON as the one to take us forward long term, based on what we've shown so far. Happy to be proven wrong and I haven't completely given up on him but hopefully we survive and move on to someone long term in summer. What's his contact,3,4 years ? That's pretty long term Yep, we won't get rid, I was saying what my views were, not what the board will do.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 15:25:27 GMT
What's his contact,3,4 years ? That's pretty long term Yep, we won't get rid, I was saying what my views were, not what the board will do. I'm of the belief that O'Neill is being pragmatic because needs must.The only goal is survival and his way of achieving that is to be slow and steady and boring.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 15:33:28 GMT
Yep, we won't get rid, I was saying what my views were, not what the board will do. I'm of the belief that O'Neill is being pragmatic because needs must.The only goal is survival and his way of achieving that is to be slow and steady and boring. I don't think that is the best use of our current players.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 15:35:21 GMT
I'm of the belief that O'Neill is being pragmatic because needs must.The only goal is survival and his way of achieving that is to be slow and steady and boring. I don't think that is the best use of our current players. Well it's working out better than Jones method
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 15:36:43 GMT
I don't think that is the best use of our current players. Well it's working out better than Jones method Good job there are more than only 2 possible, distinct methods then.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 15:41:36 GMT
Well it's working out better than Jones method Good job there are more than only 2 possible, distinct methods then. Why ? If O'Neill keeps us up by whatever means he deems fit he's succeeded,end of story
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 15:54:43 GMT
Good job there are more than only 2 possible, distinct methods then. Why ? If O'Neill keeps us up by whatever means he deems fit he's succeeded,end of story That's fine, I agree, I still don't currently think he's best long term, after summer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 16:18:50 GMT
Why ? If O'Neill keeps us up by whatever means he deems fit he's succeeded,end of story That's fine, I agree, I still don't currently think he's best long term, after summer. You don't think the quality of the football might improve once he's.... a. met his target of keeping us up b. brought some of his own players in c. had some time ??????
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 17:17:12 GMT
That's fine, I agree, I still don't currently think he's best long term, after summer. You don't think the quality of the football might improve once he's.... a. met his target of keeping us up b. brought some of his own players in c. had some time ?????? I don't think so from what he's done so far. He seems fairly set in not playing creative players bar Ince.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 17:23:53 GMT
You don't think the quality of the football might improve once he's.... a. met his target of keeping us up b. brought some of his own players in c. had some time ?????? I don't think so from what he's done so far. He seems fairly set in not playing creative players bar Ince. Lol who are all these creative players he's overlooking ? Powell ? Duffy ? What have either done to merit more game time ? Etebo ? Ndiaye ? Neither are creative players as such. You're just looking for sticks to beat him with. 10 games he's been here,10 games !!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 17:47:17 GMT
I don't think so from what he's done so far. He seems fairly set in not playing creative players bar Ince. Lol who are all these creative players he's overlooking ? Powell ? Duffy ? What have either done to merit more game time ? Etebo ? Ndiaye ? Neither are creative players as such. You're just looking for sticks to beat him with. 10 games he's been here,10 games !!! All 4 of those would improve us in an area we are poor at. The first 2 in creating chances and the second 2 in moving the ball forward from defence to attack.
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Post by Miles Offside on Dec 30, 2019 18:02:26 GMT
O'Niell is doing ok given the mess he inherited.
But he'd do better than OK if he stopped playing a 4-1-4-1, or a 4-5-1 masquerading as a 4-3-3.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 18:03:46 GMT
Lol who are all these creative players he's overlooking ? Powell ? Duffy ? What have either done to merit more game time ? Etebo ? Ndiaye ? Neither are creative players as such. You're just looking for sticks to beat him with. 10 games he's been here,10 games !!! All 4 of those would improve us in an area we are poor at. The first 2 in creating chances and the second 2 in moving the ball forward from defence to attack. I have to disagree,on the evidence so far Powell and Duffy are cack. Ndiaye has left and Etebo is leaving
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 20:32:29 GMT
All 4 of those would improve us in an area we are poor at. The first 2 in creating chances and the second 2 in moving the ball forward from defence to attack. I have to disagree,on the evidence so far Powell and Duffy are cack. Ndiaye has left and Etebo is leaving Powell is decent on the ball, and more creative than Allen or Clucas. Haven't seen enough of Duffy to know. Ndiaye and Etebo should be the first 2 names on the team sheet.
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 30, 2019 22:56:41 GMT
View AttachmentHere's the xG created and allowed under the three managers we've had this season. The Wednesday game is a slight outlier in a small sample batch, but even without it there's been a slight uptick in our creativity and improvement in the quality and quantity of chances we're allowing under MON The one that stands out for me is charlton less then one xG for conceding but lost 3-1 (or 3-2 can’t remember)
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Post by lordb on Dec 30, 2019 23:00:24 GMT
I have to disagree,on the evidence so far Powell and Duffy are cack. Ndiaye has left and Etebo is leaving Powell is decent on the ball, and more creative than Allen or Clucas. Haven't seen enough of Duffy to know. Ndiaye and Etebo should be the first 2 names on the team sheet. They are leaving. Why is this so hard to understand?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 23:13:58 GMT
Powell is decent on the ball, and more creative than Allen or Clucas. Haven't seen enough of Duffy to know. Ndiaye and Etebo should be the first 2 names on the team sheet. They are leaving. Why is this so hard to understand? I know they are, I disagree with it. Why should I not be able to say that?
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 30, 2019 23:24:57 GMT
Over a season it would equate to 60 points. Gouranga.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2019 23:56:56 GMT
I was expecting him to be good.
I think the results have been decent on the whole actually.
But his decisions are very troublesome.
Hopefully it’s because of the situation and not that he doesn’t know a good footballer if one slaps him in the face.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 30, 2019 23:58:00 GMT
Powell is decent on the ball, and more creative than Allen or Clucas. Haven't seen enough of Duffy to know. Ndiaye and Etebo should be the first 2 names on the team sheet. They are leaving. Why is this so hard to understand? Still makes no sense as to not playing them for the last 2 months. And tbh I really don’t buy that an Etebo move is close anyway.
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Post by adi on Dec 31, 2019 0:02:14 GMT
I was expecting him to be good. I think the results have been decent on the whole actually. But his decisions are very troublesome. Hopefully it’s because of the situation and not that he doesn’t know a good footballer if one slaps him in the face. He’s got better pedigree than you yet you continue your bombastic tirade trying to convince everyone on here that you know better than a professional manager.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 31, 2019 0:02:59 GMT
I was expecting him to be good. I think the results have been decent on the whole actually. But his decisions are very troublesome. Hopefully it’s because of the situation and not that he doesn’t know a good footballer if one slaps him in the face. He’s got better pedigree than you yet you continue your bombastic tirade trying to convince everyone on here that you know better than a professional manager. It’s called a football message board. Deal with it or sod off. 🤷♂️
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 31, 2019 1:43:19 GMT
That's fine, I agree, I still don't currently think he's best long term, after summer. You don't think the quality of the football might improve once he's.... a. met his target of keeping us up b. brought some of his own players in c. had some time ?????? Exactly, people need to chill out and let him get on with it. We're heading in the right direction.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 2:41:35 GMT
You don't think the quality of the football might improve once he's.... a. met his target of keeping us up b. brought some of his own players in c. had some time ?????? Exactly, people need to chill out and let him get on with it. We're heading in the right direction. All he needs to do now is to put his best foot forward with a firm hand, and realise that Rome wasn't built in a day, or he may find himself up a gumtree without a paddle.
He gets my vote. To be sure, to be sure.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 14:02:12 GMT
Lol who are all these creative players he's overlooking ? Powell ? Duffy ? What have either done to merit more game time ? Etebo ? Ndiaye ? Neither are creative players as such. You're just looking for sticks to beat him with. 10 games he's been here,10 games !!! All 4 of those would improve us in an area we are poor at. The first 2 in creating chances and the second 2 in moving the ball forward from defence to attack. Yes, I’d be so happy to see Duffy come in for McClean.... Both Duffy and Powell were wasteful signings in the first place that the manager who brought them in decided he didn’t want to use!
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