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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 18, 2019 19:16:20 GMT
And some people on here were wondering why badou and etebo weren't playing lately 😂 So why is Butland playing? Why is Allen playing?
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Post by Saul Krakinov on Dec 18, 2019 19:25:09 GMT
And some people on here were wondering why badou and etebo weren't playing lately 😂 And some were ridiculed for saying why! 😁 Yup. First thing i ever called and got it correct
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Post by lordb on Dec 18, 2019 19:31:09 GMT
And some people on here were wondering why badou and etebo weren't playing lately 😂 So why is Butland playing? Why is Allen playing? Presumably because there is no interest for them?
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Post by sportsman on Dec 18, 2019 19:38:54 GMT
And some people on here were wondering why badou and etebo weren't playing lately 😂 So why is Butland playing? Why is Allen playing? But people were asking why those two suddenly weren't playing for weeks. I think them two will be the first gone in January. Butland and allen are not certain to leave.
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Post by luke2u on Dec 18, 2019 20:01:35 GMT
So happy we're about to do business with the Turks again. Just as this is going end up with a permanent deal, I don't belive it.
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Post by harlequin on Dec 18, 2019 20:12:23 GMT
They've already tried this.
Why not wait till the end of the window to see if there is any interest from a more committed buyer? Because his wages will be paid, possibly even by the end of the week. His wages between the start of the window and the end will be paltry compared to selling him. It seems more prudent to keep him (or even showcase him) while transfer activity is high then agree to loan once the potential for a full transfer is exhausted.
As it stands, we are likely just going to get the player back at a depreciated value and still have to deal with his wages on the books next year.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 18, 2019 20:17:08 GMT
So why is Butland playing? Why is Allen playing? Presumably because there is no interest for them? They’re all supposedly available though? How is them not playing going to encourage interest?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 18, 2019 20:18:20 GMT
So why is Butland playing? Why is Allen playing? But people were asking why those two suddenly weren't playing for weeks. I think them two will be the first gone in January. Butland and allen are not certain to leave. It still made no sense not to play them though. I think we all thought there was a strong chance they’d be off but they should’ve been playing anyway.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 18, 2019 20:20:02 GMT
Presumably because there is no interest for them? They’re all supposedly available though? How is them not playing going to encourage interest? Because those two were probably as good as sold weeks ago?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 18, 2019 20:21:31 GMT
They’re all supposedly available though? How is them not playing going to encourage interest? Because those two were probably as good as sold weeks ago? They haven’t been sold though have we? It’s only a loan? And the manager still started Badou at Cardiff and has brought him off the bench a few times. Why risk him at all if a certain sale was sorted?
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Post by sportsman on Dec 18, 2019 20:22:08 GMT
But people were asking why those two suddenly weren't playing for weeks. I think them two will be the first gone in January. Butland and allen are not certain to leave. It still made no sense not to play them though. I think we all thought there was a strong chance they’d be off but they should’ve been playing anyway. When they've probably both been sold weeks ago, and we need them off the wage bill to free up incoming loans, why would the club risk playing them? When we were in the prem and ffp didn't count, we could have played them. Not now.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 18, 2019 20:23:45 GMT
Because those two were probably as good as sold weeks ago? They haven’t been sold though have we? It’s only a loan? And the manager still started Badou at Cardiff and has brought him off the bench a few times. Why risk him at all if a certain sale was sorted? Because he knew they'd been sold, and when I say that I mean out the club, and the new manager wanted to play players that were going be here.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 18, 2019 20:24:04 GMT
It still made no sense not to play them though. I think we all thought there was a strong chance they’d be off but they should’ve been playing anyway. When they've probably both been sold weeks ago, and we need them off the wage bill to free up incoming loans, why would the club risk playing them? When we were in the prem and ffp didn't count, we could have played them. Not now. But again they haven’t been sold and he started Badou at Cardiff...
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Post by Championship Potter on Dec 18, 2019 20:39:51 GMT
"Option to buy" for a midfielder who will be nearly 30 by the end of the season. Yes I'm sure they'll be snapping that one up.
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Post by scfcwebby on Dec 18, 2019 21:09:09 GMT
How the fuck is Scholes still in a job? this whole fiasco has unfolded on his watch, Coates needs to grow a back bone and fuck him off the wage bill never mind the players That would save over £16K a week alone
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Post by marylandstoke on Dec 18, 2019 21:59:29 GMT
Because his wages will be paid, possibly even by the end of the week. His wages between the start of the window and the end will be paltry compared to selling him. It seems more prudent to keep him (or even showcase him) while transfer activity is high then agree to loan once the potential for a full transfer is exhausted.
As it stands, we are likely just going to get the player back at a depreciated value and still have to deal with his wages on the books next year.
My point being, we are not talking about the window. He is (not ITK) being rumored to be flying out today or tomorrow. So it’s from now.
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Post by marylandstoke on Dec 18, 2019 22:08:13 GMT
Oh, and, as previously stated by many others NO one wants him Plus he can’t wait to be away So......
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Post by harlequin on Dec 18, 2019 22:10:06 GMT
His wages between the start of the window and the end will be paltry compared to selling him. It seems more prudent to keep him (or even showcase him) while transfer activity is high then agree to loan once the potential for a full transfer is exhausted.
As it stands, we are likely just going to get the player back at a depreciated value and still have to deal with his wages on the books next year.
My point being, we are not talking about the window. He is (not ITK) being rumored to be flying out today or tomorrow. So it’s from now. I think you can only loan players out/in during the loan window now, mate. Though it could be the case that they might have unofficially sorted something.
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Post by marylandstoke on Dec 18, 2019 22:15:18 GMT
Could be Harl, could be.
Anyway, as stated, I know the square root of f all
I’ll not miss him personally
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 19, 2019 12:05:00 GMT
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Post by lordb on Dec 19, 2019 12:14:06 GMT
a loan deal makes sense only at the very end of the window if no actual solid bids to buy him , only if all/most of his wages are paid by them only if we get decent loan fee (£1m as a minimum) & only if our midfield is in good enough shape to help the club stay up.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 19, 2019 12:26:33 GMT
Nowhere near as good as some think he is.
Good riddance
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 19, 2019 12:32:02 GMT
Some will slaughter me for saying this, but I think Cousins has been more effective in the DM role that last 2 games then Badou has been by and large.
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Post by werrington on Dec 19, 2019 12:34:32 GMT
Some will slaughter me for saying this, but I think Cousins has been more effective in the DM role that last 2 games then Badou has been by and large. Badou has been excellent on his return just as he was in that relegation season along with Shaqiri Cousins has played well but let’s not rewrite history eh
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 19, 2019 12:41:31 GMT
For me he needs to do way more, he should be, if he is as good as some say, be bidding & dictating play, he does not. His passing by & large is pretty average.
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Post by Fred Merger on Dec 19, 2019 12:55:59 GMT
Decent player but questionable attitude. Not what is needed in the dressing room. Ndiaye,Imbula, Wimmer and Berahino are all instrumental in the downfall of our football club!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 19, 2019 13:00:26 GMT
Some will slaughter me for saying this, but I think Cousins has been more effective in the DM role that last 2 games then Badou has been by and large. Badou has been excellent on his return just as he was in that relegation season along with Shaqiri Cousins has played well but let’s not rewrite history eh I thought badou was excellent in relegation but I think he played better at Leeds on opening day of last season than he has in many games this season. His 1st 2 games back this season were excellent performances. Thereafter, I'm not so sure. Hes had plaudits for seemingly wanting to play and adding some aggression to our team but I'm not convinced he has played particularly well, or effectively. Etebo will be a bigger loss than badou in my opinion.
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Post by royalewithcheese on Dec 19, 2019 13:18:25 GMT
Nowhere near as good as some think he is. Good riddance He's the best midfielder we have at the club and the best player we have in the entire squad. He is absolutely mustard.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 19, 2019 13:24:43 GMT
Presumably because there is no interest for them? They’re all supposedly available though? How is them not playing going to encourage interest? None of us know what's gone on behind closed doors - for all we know deals may have done for Badou and Etebo weeks ago and their heads have gone while Butland and Allen may have been told they can go if a mutually acceptable offer comes in but they've committed to Stoke if it doesn't happen. That's a far more rational explanation than the manager deliberately not picking his best team. The fact is the Badou and Etebo situation is being used as a stick to beat O'Neil for either not being the replacement for Jones they wanted or to deflect from the fact that their absurd confidence that sacking Jones would result in an immediate solution to our woes has been shown up as completely delusional and the problems run far deeper than who is manager.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 19, 2019 13:24:55 GMT
Decent player but questionable attitude. Not what is needed in the dressing room. Ndiaye,Imbula, Wimmer and Berahino are all instrumental in the downfall of our football club! Where's the 'questionable attitude' stuff come from though? Lambert wouldn't have tolerated that. Jones said quite the opposite. Both played them.
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