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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 18:58:32 GMT
It was a waste of a sub. The issues stemmed from zero movement in front of him. Ince in numerous occasions made runs off the ball, several times shouting for it. Edwards then proceeded to go back. His 60 yard across field pass that went out of play was laughable.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 14, 2019 18:58:54 GMT
So we did have a clear shot on target then? H Smith offered more going forward for me then Edwards
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2019 19:00:41 GMT
It was a waste of a sub. The issues stemmed from zero movement in front of him. Ince in numerous occasions made runs off the ball, several times shouting for it. Edwards then proceeded to go back. His 60 yard across field pass that went out of play was laughable. He played that ball because there was absolutely no movement in front of him and was trying to make something work. It was a crap pass but then he canāt win can he.....
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 14, 2019 19:02:23 GMT
Letās see if Edwards starts next Fridayš¤Not a chance after OāNeillās post match comments
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2019 19:03:29 GMT
Ince in numerous occasions made runs off the ball, several times shouting for it. Edwards then proceeded to go back. His 60 yard across field pass that went out of play was laughable. And yet it changed fuck all. We still had a clean sheet with no clear shot on goal. Now for me that is the fault of everyone in front of the defence, which is effectively what Bayern said. H The front 4 were toss. My candidate for being hauled was Clucas tbh. Absolute wank today.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 19:04:01 GMT
Ince in numerous occasions made runs off the ball, several times shouting for it. Edwards then proceeded to go back. His 60 yard across field pass that went out of play was laughable. He played that ball because there was absolutely no movement in front of him and was trying to make something work. It was a crap pass but then he canāt win can he..... Bayern I actually think you talk a lot of sense but whenever youth are mentioned your logic goes out the window and you become hugely inconsistent with your opinion. As a forward threat heās hopeless, heās no pace, his crossing is woeful. Defensively heās no better, weak as piss, beaten at the back post time and time again and has no positional sense. Like I say Ince called for it many times and made runs off the ball, instead of either playing it to feet or putting one in the corner he would go back.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 14, 2019 19:04:15 GMT
It was a waste of a sub. The issues stemmed from zero movement in front of him. Donāt think itās just that Bayern, heās been very poor, are you saying the movement in front of him was better previously?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2019 19:04:15 GMT
Letās see if Edwards starts next Fridayš¤Not a chance after OāNeillās post match comments You keep saying this like it means something even MON is showing his decision making is absolutely woeful.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2019 19:04:46 GMT
He played that ball because there was absolutely no movement in front of him and was trying to make something work. It was a crap pass but then he canāt win can he..... Bayern I actually think you talk a lot of sense but whenever youth are mentioned your logic goes out the window and you become hugely inconsistent with your opinion. As a forward threat heās hopeless, heās no pace, his crossing is woeful. Defensively heās no better, weak as piss, beaten at the back post time and time again and has no positional sense. Like I say Ince called for it many times and made runs off the ball, instead of either playing it to feet or putting one in the corner he would go back. Heās the best crosser at the club š
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 14, 2019 19:04:48 GMT
It was a waste of a sub. The issues stemmed from zero movement in front of him. I donāt think itās just movement, I think theyāre programmed to go backwards. I counted three occasions in the second half where Ward had the ball at left back, and Cousins made a diagonal run in field ahead of him in space. A simple pass wouldāve set us on the front foot but each time he went back to a CB or Butland. I agree the movement is generally poor but even when it is there, itās not spotted.
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Post by RAF on Dec 14, 2019 19:04:56 GMT
So we did have a clear shot on target then? H Smith offered more going forward for me then Edwards And yet it changed fuck all. We still had a clean sheet with no clear shot on goal. Now for me that is the fault of everyone in front of the defence, which is effectively what Bayern said. H
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 14, 2019 19:05:17 GMT
He played that ball because there was absolutely no movement in front of him and was trying to make something work. It was a crap pass but then he canāt win can he..... Bayern I actually think you talk a lot of sense but whenever youth are mentioned your logic goes out the window and you become hugely inconsistent with your opinion. As a forward threat heās hopeless, heās no pace, his crossing is woeful. Defensively heās no better, weak as piss, beaten at the back post time and time again and has no positional sense. Like I say Ince called for it many times and made runs off the ball, instead of either playing it to feet or putting one in the corner he would go back. Bang on mate about Bayern and the youthšGlad Iām not the only one to noticeš
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 14, 2019 19:06:31 GMT
Letās see if Edwards starts next Fridayš¤Not a chance after OāNeillās post match comments You keep saying this like it means something even MON is showing his decision making is absolutely woeful. I would imagine it means something if itās the manager saying it and picking the team
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Post by RAF on Dec 14, 2019 19:07:32 GMT
And yet it changed fuck all. We still had a clean sheet with no clear shot on goal. Now for me that is the fault of everyone in front of the defence, which is effectively what Bayern said. H The front 4 were toss. My candidate for being hauled was Clucas tbh. Absolute wank today. Agreed, I quoted the wrong person however. H
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Post by matelot1996 on Dec 14, 2019 19:07:57 GMT
Iām sorry but to give this guy a (lucrative?) 4 year contract is suicidal from Stole City. He was dog awful today. He does not have a footballers brain. Continually passing back. When he did knock it forward it was never to a Stoke shirt. His positional sense is outrageously bad. To answer the question, his form since signing the contract has nosedived. Massively depressing performance. Well done MON for making the statement.
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Post by matelot1996 on Dec 14, 2019 19:08:11 GMT
Iām sorry but to give this guy a (lucrative?) 4 year contract is suicidal from Stole City. He was dog awful today. He does not have a footballers brain. Continually passing back. When he did knock it forward it was never to a Stoke shirt. His positional sense is outrageously bad. To answer the question, his form since signing the contract has nosedived. Massively depressing performance. Well done MON for making the statement.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2019 19:08:23 GMT
Bayern I actually think you talk a lot of sense but whenever youth are mentioned your logic goes out the window and you become hugely inconsistent with your opinion. As a forward threat heās hopeless, heās no pace, his crossing is woeful. Defensively heās no better, weak as piss, beaten at the back post time and time again and has no positional sense. Like I say Ince called for it many times and made runs off the ball, instead of either playing it to feet or putting one in the corner he would go back. Bang on mate about Bayern and the youthšGlad Iām not the only one to noticeš Not at all. Look at my views re Campbell. Was MON frustrated with him for the throw ins? The answer is yes. Did it happen with every other throw in from every other player? Yes. Inconsistent pish from the manager. And he wasted a sub in a game that needed changing desperately. The manager had a shitter.
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Post by matelot1996 on Dec 14, 2019 19:08:47 GMT
Iām sorry but to give this guy a (lucrative?) 4 year contract is suicidal from Stole City. He was dog awful today. He does not have a footballers brain. Continually passing back. When he did knock it forward it was never to a Stoke shirt. His positional sense is outrageously bad. To answer the question, his form since signing the contract has nosedived. Massively depressing performance. Well done MON for making the statement.
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 14, 2019 19:11:15 GMT
Edwards for whatever reason, seemed to lack the use of his eyes when going forward. Time again he could have played into Ince and he just, well, didnāt. Heās going downhill since he played decent at the tail end of last season.
Smith for me looked a bit better going forward. Now Iām not sitting here and sucking him off because he wasnāt fucking Cafu, but he was better.
Defence as a whole though wasnāt exactly brilliant again was it? Stephen āI think I might pass it backwards at the tail end of the gameā Ward in particular is making me want to shove a cactus up my rectum. Require a new LB in the window.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 14, 2019 19:12:28 GMT
Bang on mate about Bayern and the youthšGlad Iām not the only one to noticeš Not at all. Look at my views re Campbell. Was MON frustrated with him for the throw ins? The answer is yes. Did it happen with every other throw in from every other player? Yes. Inconsistent pish from the manager. And he wasted a sub in a game that needed changing desperately. The manager had a shitter. It wasnāt just the throw ins that frustrated OāNeill trust me,the back passing was his main frustration watching his reactions closely from where I sit
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Post by cooper67 on Dec 14, 2019 19:27:19 GMT
WTF has happened to him since the summerš¤He was woeful 1st half and rightly substituted at half time. Pass square,pass back,pass square,pass backšTake your man on FFSš” He makes me look good!
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Post by stuammo on Dec 14, 2019 19:35:01 GMT
Pisshead. Can see it in his face and in his play. Destined to be a failure. Dreadful today
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 19:45:03 GMT
Smith had exactly the same problems with Ince. (Yeah he overlapped once and had a shot, he was able to do that because ince made himself available.)
Edwards had a poor game all around, but if you think he's the problem you aren't seeing the bigger picture...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2019 19:54:27 GMT
Not at all. Look at my views re Campbell. Was MON frustrated with him for the throw ins? The answer is yes. Did it happen with every other throw in from every other player? Yes. Inconsistent pish from the manager. And he wasted a sub in a game that needed changing desperately. The manager had a shitter. It wasnāt just the throw ins that frustrated OāNeill trust me,the back passing was his main frustration watching his reactions closely from where I sit They were all passing it backwards. Itās pathetic to target one player for it. Then the sub he made, made absolutely sod all difference. Great management.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 14, 2019 20:07:10 GMT
What an absolute dickheadš
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2019 20:07:37 GMT
What an absolute dickheadš Heās right though.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 14, 2019 20:09:06 GMT
What an absolute dickheadš Heās right though. Whether you think heās right or not you donāt do that on social media
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2019 20:09:42 GMT
Whether you think heās right or not you donāt do that on social media He is thick.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 14, 2019 20:15:26 GMT
What an absolute dickheadš Heās right though. It's not like you to attempt to defend the indefensible. You should apply for a role in our back 4 with defending like that.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2019 20:17:50 GMT
It's not like you to attempt to defend the indefensible. You should apply for a role in our back 4 with defending like that. Itās thick but heās right. The fans are the issue here. Just look at Rich Carterās tweets. Heās absolutely spot on.
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