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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 14:59:37 GMT
They can indeed. I'm just of the opinion that praising and glorifying a woman who has 'earned' nearly enough money to end homelessness off the back of fostering addiction in the most vulnerable because she sticks a couple of percent of it back into charity and gives out a few thousand jobs to the local area (of which, only software developers make over £25k/yr, the rest are low wage call centre gigs.) I think she is the perfect example of everything wrong with society. We reward acting with selfishness, hoarding money and preying on the weak with the most unbelievable amounts of money. She makes over Ten Thousand times the wage of one of her call centre workers in a year. 10 fucking thousand. It's sickening. Think glassdoor shows that even the run of the mill jobs pay closer to 25k. Software developers are going to be picking up far more than 25k a year. I'd imagine the lower end would be 35k and anyone with a decent bit of experience to their name nearer or above 50k. (For what its worth did a bit of fact checking, £21.5k for the standard customer service role, £43k average for the software developers) A lot of your posts on the issue I've seen come down to some opposition to gambling. But what's the solution then? I don't gamble personally, far too much of a risk I would get addicted. People overspend on gambling, they overspend on drink, they overspend on drugs, they overspend on gaming, they overspend on clothes, they overspend on food. Whatever your predisposition is, there's someone sat there happy to rake it in off your back. I'm of the opinion that more should be legalised and taxed. The only logical alternative is 3 government mandated meals a day to a specific nutritional intake and we all just sit there never doing anything because there's potential to piss away all your money on it. I'm opposed to billionaires in the same world as starving and homeless people in general. It's even worse that it comes from explicitly grooming people into addiction.
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Post by zerps on Dec 18, 2019 15:03:24 GMT
People making money is disgusting? People making £500 million in 2 years is disgusting. Only because it’s not you 😆
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Post by bathstoke on Dec 18, 2019 15:05:06 GMT
People making £500 million in 2 years is disgusting. Only because it’s not you 😆 I’d make you all cry if I pulled that lot in💋
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 15:05:30 GMT
Genuinely disgusting that one human being can make that much money in two years, especially from gambling. A show of how pathetic modern society is. Still, she'll donate 5% of it to charity and be lauded as a hero. How much did you lose? Don't blame other people for your own weakness otherwise we might as well shut everything down and give up I'm no gambling addict at all. I think anyone 'earning' that much money shouldn't be lauded as a hero. She lives what, 10 miles away from Stoke-on-Trent, a city with 75'000 in poverty according to the Sentinel, and the 3rd highest deaths among homeless in the midlands. In a £100m mansion. With a manmade lake. The weird sycophancy people seem to have for those who earn unbelievably sick amounts of money and hoard it for themselves is very cringe and a bit nauseating to me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 15:10:51 GMT
People making £500 million in 2 years is disgusting. Only because it’s not you 😆 Because the wealth of the top 10% of the country is more than the wealth of the rest of the country. The top 1%, being 400'000 people, earn over 1/5th of all UK wealth. No-one needs that much money. There is no 'earning' a wage that high. It's greed.
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Post by zerps on Dec 18, 2019 15:21:34 GMT
Only because it’s not you 😆 Because the wealth of the top 10% of the country is more than the wealth of the rest of the country. The top 1%, being 400'000 people, earn over 1/5th of all UK wealth. No-one needs that much money. There is no 'earning' a wage that high. It's greed. Nah mate it’s how it goes
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 18, 2019 15:21:45 GMT
Only because it’s not you 😆 Because the wealth of the top 10% of the country is more than the wealth of the rest of the country. The top 1%, being 400'000 people, earn over 1/5th of all UK wealth. No-one needs that much money. There is no 'earning' a wage that high. It's greed. I think you mean own rather than earn wealth and most of the wealth is not money its property, shares etc.. Whether Denise took that payment or not she would still be wealthy this way about £100m+ is paid in income tax.
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Post by kustokie on Dec 18, 2019 15:32:39 GMT
People making money is disgusting? People making £500 million in 2 years is disgusting. “Capitalism is the unequal distribution of blessings. Socialism is the equal distribution of misery”. Winston Churchill.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 15:52:09 GMT
People making £500 million in 2 years is disgusting. “Capitalism is the unequal distribution of blessings. Socialism is the equal distribution of misery”. Winston Churchill. "I do not admit for instance that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been to those people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher grade race or at any rate a more worldly wise race to put it that way has come in and taken their place." - Winston Churchill.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 15:54:04 GMT
Because the wealth of the top 10% of the country is more than the wealth of the rest of the country. The top 1%, being 400'000 people, earn over 1/5th of all UK wealth. No-one needs that much money. There is no 'earning' a wage that high. It's greed. I think you mean own rather than earn wealth and most of the wealth is not money its property, shares etc.. Whether Denise took that payment or not she would still be wealthy this way about £100m+ is paid in income tax. Yep, she should neither earn or own that much. No-one deserves that in the same world as famine, poverty and homelessness.
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Post by garthcrooks007 on Dec 18, 2019 16:04:59 GMT
People making money is disgusting? People making £500 million in 2 years is disgusting. Just read she's Britain's highest paid boss and she had a 57m pay rise this year,taking her wages to 277m plus an extra 45m in dividends =322m. Employs 4,646 people as well!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 16:06:07 GMT
Its a Blondie song is it not? A good un as well. Think that's why he said her name twice. Shame we can't go back to blondie's hay day She could definitely have walked Into any dressing room , and motivated any group of lads ,at her peak
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 18, 2019 16:12:38 GMT
I think you mean own rather than earn wealth and most of the wealth is not money its property, shares etc.. Whether Denise took that payment or not she would still be wealthy this way about £100m+ is paid in income tax. Yep, she should neither earn or own that much. No-one deserves that in the same world as famine, poverty and homelessness. If that is the standard then I presume no one should have a car, send their kids to private school, spend any money on entertainment, drink or smoke and certainly not goto the football etc etc etc Its not really down to bet 365 to solve the problems you mention which is a good job considering the mess they seem to be making of getting us promoted, thats down to governments and whilst personally I think betting is a shitty way to make your living they seem to pay their taxes and some which is unusual particularly for socialists.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 18, 2019 16:43:57 GMT
People making money is disgusting? People making £500 million in 2 years is disgusting. Let me guess, you love corbyn as well 😁
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 16:48:02 GMT
Yep, she should neither earn or own that much. No-one deserves that in the same world as famine, poverty and homelessness. If that is the standard then I presume no one should have a car, send their kids to private school, spend any money on entertainment, drink or smoke and certainly not goto the football etc etc etc Its not really down to bet 365 to solve the problems you mention which is a good job considering the mess they seem to be making of getting us promoted, thats down to governments and whilst personally I think betting is a shitty way to make your living they seem to pay their taxes and some which is unusual particularly for socialists. Not at all. In fact, if the world's billionaires gave up 3% of their wealth, that would equal the highest estimates of the cost to end world hunger. It is down to the people with money and power to use it morally. Billionaires could end world hunger. They could contribute another 2% to end worldwide poverty. And still have 95% of their incredible hoarded wealth left over. Buying a car, smoking, drinking, going to football, are luxuries we have but many don't. Earning 3/4 of a million a day is beyond the pail.
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Post by franklin66 on Dec 18, 2019 17:11:53 GMT
Keep going Denise I think your a very attractive lady 😉 fancy a bit of rough 🍆
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 17:15:58 GMT
People making £500 million in 2 years is disgusting. Let me guess, you love corbyn as well 😁 Not really no.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 17:21:06 GMT
To people , that think they have a system that ' can beat the bookies '
I would say ...' are you sure ? '
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Post by thehoof on Dec 18, 2019 18:02:06 GMT
Reading the comments here, you’d think that Stoke On Trent, Staffs Moorlands and Stone and Stafford has returned Labour MP’s wouldn’t you?
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 18, 2019 18:13:23 GMT
The biggest irony of this entire thing, is that our owners continue to run a mightily successful business that goes from strength to strength. Which to me, again suggests the problem is the structure of the club, not the level of investment which as we've see in the latest accounts have been incredibly high.
If bet365 were a football club, they'd be a modern operation similar to that of a Brentford. Everyone with well known accountability, no traditional/outdated shops but a business entirely geared for the future and suited in modernity and one that was ahead of the curve in doing this.
Likewise if Stoke were a betting company they'd be the dirtiest, seediest two bit shop you could imagine with no one knowing who is doing what. Completely unsuited for a modern world of gambling and running itself into the ground with obsolete practises and methods of operating. Despite the owner throwing millions on opening up other shops just like it and wondering why it's not working.
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Post by felonious on Dec 18, 2019 18:44:33 GMT
Let me guess, you love corbyn as well 😁 Not really no. Too right wing?
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 18, 2019 18:48:06 GMT
She's entitle to pay herself whatever she wants but you don't have to agree with it.
In my mind it doesn't sit comfortably.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 18, 2019 18:59:08 GMT
In my day people defined the on3 that got away as the fifth Beatle or the drummer Ringo replaced today’s equivalent is any ex Boyfriend of Mrs Smith / Coates l, my god you’d be kicking yourself on that one 😉
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 18, 2019 19:04:31 GMT
She's entitle to pay herself whatever she wants but you don't have to agree with it. In my mind it doesn't sit comfortably. Spot on. The whole gambling thing just is not right
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Dec 18, 2019 19:21:39 GMT
She's entitle to pay herself whatever she wants but you don't have to agree with it. In my mind it doesn't sit comfortably. Spot on. The whole gambling thing just is not right I believe that any Society that rewards someone who owns a betting company about 10,000 times more than a surgeon or doctor is pretty fucked up. And people who somehow think it's OK are either very dim or mentally ill
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Post by berahinosgoals on Dec 18, 2019 20:08:18 GMT
It must be crazy to be that filthy stinking rich
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Post by stantheman on Dec 18, 2019 20:35:33 GMT
Good luck to her. Employs a huge amount of people locally, pays a fortune in tax, gives fortunes to charity via her own foundation and others. Edit - Denise, if you're reading this and have need of a P.A/driver/gardener/handyman/gigolo, drop me a PM 😉 Ps - I'm also really good at brewing up
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Post by Billy the kid on Dec 18, 2019 20:47:42 GMT
Obscene amount of money to earn, but she had the brains and backing to get in to that position. We can all cry as much as we like but the real world is shit deal with it. Me personally I own my own business and I'm broke, I guess I didnt have the brains or the backing but I'm not about to be cry her of her earnings.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 21:09:13 GMT
Greed is not good! One of my pleasures in life, is having a little flutter. The problem is I'm a bad loser. It will never ever break me though!
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Post by questionable on Dec 18, 2019 21:23:52 GMT
Keep going Denise I think your a very attractive lady 😉 fancy a bit of rough 🍆 She can earn what she wants but wasn’t blessed with looks whatsoever, in simple terms she’s a bit of a minger. From what I was told the first job for her PA is to photograph her upon her arrival in the morning just to make sure she’s not wearing the same clothes to much
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