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Post by clarkeda on Aug 12, 2019 20:04:20 GMT
I must admit I was starting to waver more out of despondency then anything else however, today’s press conference has brought be back round.
He’s flat out admitted he shouldn’t have taken woods off, then explained why he did it, then said if he could do it all again he wouldn’t make the sub.
Fair play Nathan Jones, you have certainly got the backing from me, and I believe you will turn this around.
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Post by harrysburrow on Aug 12, 2019 20:08:46 GMT
Hope so mate. Thing is though, one of the few things we've been genuinely good at over the last 18 months is admitting our mistakes after games?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 20:08:52 GMT
It was good to hear it but still concerning that he didn’t seem to have a clue what went wrong immediately post match. I don’t think it changes much. Reminded me of Rowett “in big enough to admit X” said reluctantly and too late when directly confronted with the question.
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 12, 2019 20:14:30 GMT
It was good to hear it but still concerning that he didn’t seem to have a clue what went wrong immediately post match. I don’t think it changes much. Reminded me of Rowett “in big enough to admit X” said reluctantly and too late when directly confronted with the question. Agreed however I feel that jones has the best for the club in his mind, not like Rowett who was about himself. Ultimately we’ll see if he learns. I also enjoyed the way he slammed the media about Butland and basically to them to fuck off and stop unsettling him. |
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 12, 2019 20:18:42 GMT
He sounded a lot more upbeat than he has in the last week or two, I think he was genuinely enthused by Saturday. And good to hear him take individual responsibility for a specific mistake, big contrast from Rowett's grand-but-vague "I'm man enough to admit it when..." before generally going on to get arsey about a question or throw somebody under the bus.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 20:19:20 GMT
It was good to hear it but still concerning that he didn’t seem to have a clue what went wrong immediately post match. I don’t think it changes much. Reminded me of Rowett “in big enough to admit X” said reluctantly and too late when directly confronted with the question. Agreed however I feel that jones has the best for the club in his mind, not like Rowett who was about himself. Ultimately we’ll see if he learns. I also enjoyed the way he slammed the media about Butland and basically to them to fuck off and stop unsettling him. To me it’s like two sides of the same coin. I think back to him talking about managing Barcelona when he first joined and at the time didn’t think much of it but now I just think it’s arrogance and he’s genuinely deluded. I just hope I’m wrong. A lot of what he does seems naive and being so he’ll bent on this diamond without the players just seems daft. |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Aug 12, 2019 20:34:46 GMT
I really enjoyed listening to that press conference.
He's in it for the long haul.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 12, 2019 20:35:19 GMT
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Aug 12, 2019 20:38:07 GMT
I must admit I was starting to waver more out of despondency then anything else however, today’s press conference has brought be back round. He’s flat out admitted he shouldn’t have taken woods off, then explained why he did it, then said if he could do it all again he wouldn’t make the sub. Fair play Nathan Jones, you have certainly got the backing from me, and I believe you will turn this around. how many mistakes are we going to allow him...he states 1 but his team selection has only won 3 games...in 23...cmon..you cant sooth pain with sympathy |
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Post by lordb on Aug 12, 2019 20:45:15 GMT
I must admit I was starting to waver more out of despondency then anything else however, today’s press conference has brought be back round. He’s flat out admitted he shouldn’t have taken woods off, then explained why he did it, then said if he could do it all again he wouldn’t make the sub. Fair play Nathan Jones, you have certainly got the backing from me, and I believe you will turn this around. how many mistakes are we going to allow him...he states 1 but his team selection has only won 3 games...in 23...cmon..you cant sooth pain with sympathy He went for the win, he got it wrong. Most managers would have gone to grind out a point. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 20:54:13 GMT
how many mistakes are we going to allow him...he states 1 but his team selection has only won 3 games...in 23...cmon..you cant sooth pain with sympathy He went for the win, he got it wrong. Most managers would have gone to grind out a point. Allen for Duffy if he wanted the win? Not playing a lone striker? It was stupid regardless of what he was trying to do. |
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 12, 2019 21:03:15 GMT
Hope so mate. Thing is though, one of the few things we've been genuinely good at over the last 18 months is admitting our mistakes after games? Shame we haven't been as good at rectifying the same mistakes over and over and over again, it's all well and good admitting your mistakes it's a totally different kettle of fish when it comes to eradicating them, that goes for all at the club from the board to the players sick of all the lip service, hype and horse shit coming out of the club ! shut the fcuk up and put it right for once. |
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Post by LankyPotter on Aug 12, 2019 21:03:56 GMT
We have a young manager, who has a plan/philosophy/ideology on what he wants to achieve with our football club. He will make mistakes, but what is really refreshing is that he is ready to identify those mistakes and openly talk about them. That is how people improve, in any job. I would much rather have that kind of person in charge than a Big Sam or a TP or anyone else of that nature. Football is moving ever so further away from those characters.
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Post by Sfance on Aug 12, 2019 21:06:29 GMT
Sounds like he has multiple personalities, "we this," "we that." I wonder which one is going to come out on top in the end.
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Post by musik on Aug 12, 2019 21:11:09 GMT
We have a young manager, who has a plan/philosophy/ideology on what he wants to achieve with our football club. He will make mistakes, but what is really refreshing is that he is ready to identify those mistakes and openly talk about them. That is how people improve, in any job. I would much rather have that kind of person in charge than a Big Sam or a TP or anyone else of that nature. Football is moving ever so further away from those characters. Exactly. TP never admitted anything. Not MH either. |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 12, 2019 21:12:45 GMT
One sub didn't cause us to lose.
It is a group of gutless charlatans with no passion, desire or game intelligence.
We are also a one paced bag of shit.
Fucking shit in every way, after another fucking shit transfer window where once again we've totally ignored all the reasons why we are fucking relentlessly bastarding shit.
Looking forward to another season void of any sort of joy, and every fucking weekend tinged with the disappointment of our endless shittyness
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Post by robrigo on Aug 12, 2019 21:13:38 GMT
I like the bloke. I like his passion, his hunger. I’m also prepared to give him time with this new look squad. His squad.
I think we’ll make the play offs but just miss out at the final hurdle this time around. But we all, eventually will see a massive improvement and hopefully the club will galvanise and be united again.
Yes, yes I know about his record last season but I’m judging him now and this season.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Aug 12, 2019 21:13:38 GMT
I really enjoyed listening to that press conference. He's in it for the long haul. Not if he doesn't start winning some games, he isnt |
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Post by redrob on Aug 12, 2019 21:19:20 GMT
He talks a great game and then kick off comes and it’s generally downhill from there
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 12, 2019 21:20:53 GMT
I like the bloke. I like his passion, his hunger. I’m also prepared to give him time with this new look squad. His squad. I think we’ll make the play offs but just miss out at the final hurdle this time around. But we all, eventually will see a massive improvement and hopefully the club will galvanise and be united again. Yes, yes I know about his record last season but I’m judging him now and this season. Seriously? You think we are going to make the play offs? Based on what evidence? We just lost 3-1 against a league 1 side |
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Post by robrigo on Aug 12, 2019 21:22:24 GMT
I like the bloke. I like his passion, his hunger. I’m also prepared to give him time with this new look squad. His squad. I think we’ll make the play offs but just miss out at the final hurdle this time around. But we all, eventually will see a massive improvement and hopefully the club will galvanise and be united again. Yes, yes I know about his record last season but I’m judging him now and this season. Seriously? You think we are going to make the play offs? Based on what evidence? We just lost 3-1 against a league 1 side No evidence. Just blind optimism that something will click. Don’t take my hope away from me mate😂 |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 12, 2019 21:22:51 GMT
One sub didn't cause us to lose. It is a group of gutless charlatans with no passion, desire or game intelligence. We are also a one paced bag of shit. Fucking shit in every way, after another fucking shit transfer window where once again we've totally ignored all the reasons why we are fucking relentlessly bastarding shit. Looking forward to another season void of any sort of joy, and every fucking weekend tinged with the disappointment of our endless shittyness Good night, sweet dreams!  |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 12, 2019 21:26:16 GMT
One sub didn't cause us to lose. It is a group of gutless charlatans with no passion, desire or game intelligence. We are also a one paced bag of shit. Fucking shit in every way, after another fucking shit transfer window where once again we've totally ignored all the reasons why we are fucking relentlessly bastarding shit. Looking forward to another season void of any sort of joy, and every fucking weekend tinged with the disappointment of our endless shittyness Good night, sweet dreams! I'm afraid this is my only outlet. Right, glad I got that off my chest |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 12, 2019 21:32:05 GMT
We would've got a point as easy as you like on Saturday, no danger at all of losing the game and maybe if he kept it the same we would've nicked the 3 points. Instead Jones rolled the dice and went for it which bit him and us on the arse big time. Hopefully it's a lesson learnt.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 12, 2019 21:32:23 GMT
Seriously? You think we are going to make the play offs? Based on what evidence? We just lost 3-1 against a league 1 side No evidence. Just blind optimism that something will click. Don’t take my hope away from me mate😂 God willing  water to wine ain't gonna happen Nath, you have bought a load of one paced losers to add to the one paced losers we already had and ignored the obvious issues, this young man is down to you better start walking the walk sick of the talk now, start fulfilling your own promises or clear your desk. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 12, 2019 21:41:14 GMT
We would've got a point as easy as you like on Saturday, no danger at all of losing the game and maybe if he kept it the same we would've nicked the 3 points. Instead Jones rolled the dice and went for it which bit him and us on the arse big time. Hopefully it's a lesson learnt. I'm not defending the substitution, but we've had plenty of posters and supporters going mad whenever Pulis or Lambert would shut up shop at the end against apparently inferior teams instead of rolling the dice and going for it - that's the risk that you take. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 21:44:05 GMT
We would've got a point as easy as you like on Saturday, no danger at all of losing the game and maybe if he kept it the same we would've nicked the 3 points. Instead Jones rolled the dice and went for it which bit him and us on the arse big time. Hopefully it's a lesson learnt. I'm not defending the substitution, but we've had plenty of posters and supporters going mad whenever Pulis or Lambert would shut up shop at the end against apparently inferior teams instead of rolling the dice and going for it - that's the risk that you take. There is rolling the dice and there is knocking over the whole fucking table... |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Aug 12, 2019 21:50:52 GMT
Nathan the time has come to stop the talk & produce results meaning win the next 2 Wigan away & Derby at home on Saturday.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 12, 2019 21:51:15 GMT
We would've got a point as easy as you like on Saturday, no danger at all of losing the game and maybe if he kept it the same we would've nicked the 3 points. Instead Jones rolled the dice and went for it which bit him and us on the arse big time. Hopefully it's a lesson learnt. I'm not defending the substitution, but we've had plenty of posters and supporters going mad whenever Pulis or Lambert would shut up shop at the end against apparently inferior teams instead of rolling the dice and going for it - that's the risk that you take. But it's the way you do it, he totally went too far and everyone saw it. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 12, 2019 21:57:36 GMT
Agreed however I feel that jones has the best for the club in his mind, not like Rowett who was about himself. Ultimately we’ll see if he learns. I also enjoyed the way he slammed the media about Butland and basically to them to fuck off and stop unsettling him. To me it’s like two sides of the same coin. I think back to him talking about managing Barcelona when he first joined and at the time didn’t think much of it but now I just think it’s arrogance and he’s genuinely deluded. I just hope I’m wrong. A lot of what he does seems naive and being so he’ll bent on this diamond without the players just seems daft. Before his fuck up the diamond was working fine, he just needs to be braver in his team selection like he was with dropping Vokes, we know it didn't work against QPR but it's still a big call to drop your big striker signing. |
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water to wine ain't gonna happen Nath, you have bought a load of one paced losers to add to the one paced losers we already had and ignored the obvious issues, this young man is down to you better start walking the walk sick of the talk now, start fulfilling your own promises or clear your desk. 
