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Post by silverdollar on Jul 28, 2019 8:14:53 GMT
I am sincerely sick of the people on this site who most probably have Stoke in their hearts but they just have to voice constant negativity and after each game their bile distorts the reality of the game.
Yesterday we played a team that has lots of premiership quality and current England international players. I was disappointed that we lost the game because we didn't deserve to. Bayern says we were "overun" down the left! Really? Another was complaining that Smith played and not Edwards! It's is fantastic that we have two great defenders. Get over it!
I believe that Nathan Jones has so far done a marvellous job with the team. It was easy to see Leicester's superior quality but we never let it phase us. Our inability to clinically finish chances ruined our performance. Already our forwards look much more mobile than last year but good chances were missed especially the penalty.
Too many people on this site are letting their anger distort the reality of what is going on at the club. They have formed their opinions and after each game they will bombard this site with their unrealistic comments! Isn't it about time you all do what supporters are supposed to do and get behind the team and make this site a little more enjoyable to look at.
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Post by anto1 on Jul 28, 2019 8:20:36 GMT
Well said we could have the best manager in the land and best team money can buy and most of the haters would still have something to moan about.
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Post by lifelong on Jul 28, 2019 8:25:07 GMT
spot on
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Post by somersetstokie on Jul 28, 2019 8:26:31 GMT
We have had years of practice of being negative, so it takes a long time to turn things around.  |
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Post by gibby1409 on Jul 28, 2019 8:27:35 GMT
Message boards do have polarised opinions, and it's great to have different points of view, long may this continue.
But the OP is right about the huge amount of negativity on here, which if you take any notice of, would just drag you down. I do fear that the Oatie is going to be the architect of its own demise, in that there will be a new site that appears, and it will be one that comes over as having the best intentions of the club at heart, not happy clapping but constructive debate.
Because I truly believe that the Oatie at the moment is just a platform for a handful of posters who dominate every one else, and what's even worse, they appear to just want everything the club does, or every player the club signs to fail.
Just my opinion of course 😉
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Post by danceswithclams on Jul 28, 2019 8:27:47 GMT
I genuinely hope they close this messageboard board down when the fanzine finishes.
Once upon a time (a long time ago mind) this place used to be a decent destination for an informed debate about the club and footballing matters and was often a treasure trove of wit and insight.
Unfortunately it's now used almost exclusively by moaning arseholes and racists.
I know supporters of all clubs like to be critical and are notoriously fickle but if you were a rival fan who happened to come across this board then you'd form the opinion that Stoke fans are the biggest bunch of wankers going.
It's a fucking embarrassment.
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 28, 2019 8:30:04 GMT
We have had years of practice of being negative, so it takes a long time to turn things around. Interesting point, because that’s essential what Jones said he had to do with the players when he came in. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 28, 2019 8:33:34 GMT
Surely positivity starts on the pitch. The result was completely irrelevant but I wasn't expecting the same old flabby, paceless shite we witnessed yesterday.
I'm sick of the managers words, I want to see some evidence on the pitch now.
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Post by 11wilkosinateam on Jul 28, 2019 8:36:00 GMT
I am sincerely sick of the people on this site who most probably have Stoke in their hearts but they just have to voice constant negativity and after each game their bile distorts the reality of the game. Yesterday we played a team that has lots of premiership quality and current England international players. I was disappointed that we lost the game because we didn't deserve to. Bayern says we were "overun" down the left! Really? Another was complaining that Smith played and not Edwards! It's is fantastic that we have two great defenders. Get over it! I believe that Nathan Jones has so far done a marvellous job with the team. It was easy to see Leicester's superior quality but we never let it phase us. Our inability to clinically finish chances ruined our performance. Already our forwards look much more mobile than last year but good chances were missed especially the penalty. Too many people on this site are letting their anger distort the reality of what is going on at the club. They have formed their opinions and after each game they will bombard this site with their unrealistic comments! Isn't it about time you all do what supporters are supposed to do and get behind the team and make this site a little more enjoyable to look at. THIS EXACTLY Leicester had well over £200million worth of talent on the pitch and we deserved at least a draw. Plenty of positives and the only two things to worry about were Shawcross's injury and I must admit McClean at LB was at fault for at least 1 of their goals. Cousins, Lindsey, Smith, Powell and Vokes all looked decent and against a weaker opposition we would have created more chances The main thing was that our movement off the ball was far better than last season. |
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Post by werrington on Jul 28, 2019 8:37:52 GMT
Criticism, negativity and positivity are a huge part of a Mb when it’s warranted
There’s a few on here though who never offer any positivity even when a player or the team plays well, they also criticise every signing the club make despite NEVER having seen the bloke play or I’ll bet even heard of him
It’s just not fucking normal
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Post by Block 22 on Jul 28, 2019 8:40:18 GMT
I am sincerely sick of the people on this site who most probably have Stoke in their hearts but they just have to voice constant negativity and after each game their bile distorts the reality of the game. Yesterday we played a team that has lots of premiership quality and current England international players. I was disappointed that we lost the game because we didn't deserve to. Bayern says we were "overun" down the left! Really? Another was complaining that Smith played and not Edwards! It's is fantastic that we have two great defenders. Get over it! I believe that Nathan Jones has so far done a marvellous job with the team. It was easy to see Leicester's superior quality but we never let it phase us. Our inability to clinically finish chances ruined our performance. Already our forwards look much more mobile than last year but good chances were missed especially the penalty. Too many people on this site are letting their anger distort the reality of what is going on at the club. They have formed their opinions and after each game they will bombard this site with their unrealistic comments! Isn't it about time you all do what supporters are supposed to do and get behind the team and make this site a little more enjoyable to look at. I’ve just said similar on another thread, I wouldn’t mind if the negative horse shit spouted was justified but it’s so far out of context that it’s cringeworthy and embarrassing to read. For anyone who didn’t watch yesterday and used this website to gauge our overall play and performance yesterday would think we got out played for the entire 90 minutes of football. Never read the Oatcake for a match report chaps, it’s mostly bollocks. |
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Post by walrus on Jul 28, 2019 8:41:58 GMT
After the best part of fifteen years where the trajectory of the club was steadily upwards (League One promotion in 2002 through to that third ninth place finish in 2016) we have a segment of our fanbase who really do care deeply about the club but have completely lost or failed to develop the gallows humour and “take the rough with the smooth” attitude that’s critical to enjoying following a non-top six side.
We got so used to everything going well that some fans can’t cope when things go badly. Instead of rallying round the players and trying to enjoy the ride they scrabble frantically for someone or something to blame, labelling anyone who doesn’t share their outraged vitriol as “happy clappers”.
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Post by vahl on Jul 28, 2019 8:42:04 GMT
Aging supporter base if you ask me.
Sorry but it has its downfalls.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 28, 2019 8:43:14 GMT
I'd ask on the evidence of yesterday, have any of our major shortcomings from last season been addressed?
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jul 28, 2019 8:43:46 GMT
I am sincerely sick of the people on this site who most probably have Stoke in their hearts but they just have to voice constant negativity and after each game their bile distorts the reality of the game. Yesterday we played a team that has lots of premiership quality and current England international players. I was disappointed that we lost the game because we didn't deserve to. Bayern says we were "overun" down the left! Really? Another was complaining that Smith played and not Edwards! It's is fantastic that we have two great defenders. Get over it! I believe that Nathan Jones has so far done a marvellous job with the team. It was easy to see Leicester's superior quality but we never let it phase us. Our inability to clinically finish chances ruined our performance. Already our forwards look much more mobile than last year but good chances were missed especially the penalty. Too many people on this site are letting their anger distort the reality of what is going on at the club. They have formed their opinions and after each game they will bombard this site with their unrealistic comments! Isn't it about time you all do what supporters are supposed to do and get behind the team and make this site a little more enjoyable to look at. It isn’t the site that’s horrible silver, it’s some of the low life negative scammers that invest the place. I’m all in favour of constructive debate, both positive and negative, but some of the rhetoric expended on the board is truly vile. No it’s not the forum itself and I for one would be devastated if it were to be closed down. |
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Post by trincostokie on Jul 28, 2019 8:45:13 GMT
It was a pre-season friendly, against a team that provided a test that few Championship teams will be able to offer this season, we got narrowly beaten but played significantly better for much longer periods of the game than any of our previous pre-season friendlies...plenty of positives yesterday for me
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Post by walrus on Jul 28, 2019 8:46:26 GMT
Part of the issue is how quick people are to jump to negative conclusions. I’ll judge whether last year’s shortcomings have been adequately addressed after ten league games, not on the evidence of one friendly against top half Premiership opposition.
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Post by gibby1409 on Jul 28, 2019 8:46:34 GMT
Criticism, negativity and positivity are a huge part of a Mb when it’s warranted There’s a few on here though who never offer any positivity even when a player or the team plays well, they also criticise every signing the club make despite NEVER having seen the bloke play or I’ll bet even heard of him It’s just not fucking normal Spot on! I'm not saying posts should be moderated, because thats a fine line between getting things badly wrong. But I go onto a lot of sites chatting to rival fans, and if there are posters who abuse the player's manager staff and other posters in a certain manner, or flood threads then you're banned. It's clearly laid out in the MB rules. I think the Mods on here and indeed any site have a thankless job, but I think they have to seriously start to tbink about how they manage this site now. Some of the lads I work with who are massive Stokies just won't come on here because they say its just laughable. And I'm sure there are lots of fans who think in a similar way. The Oatie will only go one way if it doesn't change imo. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 8:47:23 GMT
Some battle lines were drawn as early as the end of February last season. Once that happens, there is no way back for some. It's a fact of life - some people will like the manager and give him time, others don't and won't and will look to extract every last ounce of negativity from any situation.
I can't moan too much personally as I was the same with Rowett last season. Openly disliked him and didn't trust him.
You either log on and try and make a difference or walk away and ignore it. I can't see it getting much better or quieter until results turn - and even then people will hide away until the next poor run of results.
The only part I find frustrating about this is a lot of people were asking for a complete change in direction after the failings of Hughes et al. We've got change and the same people demanding it were seemingly not prepared to wait longer than a few months for it to change given how quick they jumped in.
In short, it is what it is.
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Post by onefatcopper on Jul 28, 2019 8:52:43 GMT
Surely positivity starts on the pitch. The result was completely irrelevant but I wasn't expecting the same old flabby, paceless shite we witnessed yesterday. I'm sick of the managers words, I want to see some evidence on the pitch now. At the moment there’s 4472 threads on this site, why have you picked on this one ? Is it getting lonely out there in the sea of misery or is no one paying attention to you anymore ? |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 28, 2019 8:53:28 GMT
You need to realise the strength of Leicester! Remember they played another game, yesterday at Rotherham, with a team that'd have tested us just as much as their 'first' team did. We did well overall!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 28, 2019 8:55:01 GMT
Surely positivity starts on the pitch. The result was completely irrelevant but I wasn't expecting the same old flabby, paceless shite we witnessed yesterday. I'm sick of the managers words, I want to see some evidence on the pitch now. At the moment there’s 4472 threads on this site, why have you picked on this one ? Is it getting lonely out there in the sea of misery or is no one paying attention to you anymore ? I'm making the point that if you want a more cheery disposition in the stands and on the messageboard, then it might stem from something a bit more positive on the pitch so the point is germane to this thread, you pompous anus. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 28, 2019 8:56:22 GMT
This thread will go totally over the heads of all the negative posters (Bayern are you reading?).
I do miss the banter and humour that was part of the oatcake years ago mixed in with actual discussion of the football.
I used to get a good laugh from reading the Oatie, but I cant remember the last time I laughed out loud
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Post by danceswithclams on Jul 28, 2019 9:00:04 GMT
Saw them supporting World of Twist in the early 90s. Great band. |
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Post by nott1 on Jul 28, 2019 9:03:23 GMT
The critcs are realists who wish for decent attacking football culminating in wins and goals which we have sadly lacked for years since the 9th places. The odd low intellect persons (liked by other low intellect persons) are responsible for issuing words like "thick cunt" to some of the other board members who may be critical, but are nevertheless deeply committed to supporting the club. Personal insults are not clever, quite the reverse!
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Post by werrington on Jul 28, 2019 9:03:42 GMT
Some battle lines were drawn as early as the end of February last season. Once that happens, there is no way back for some. It's a fact of life - some people will like the manager and give him time, others don't and won't and will look to extract every last ounce of negativity from any situation. I can't moan too much personally as I was the same with Rowett last season. Openly disliked him and didn't trust him. You either log on and try and make a difference or walk away and ignore it. I can't see it getting much better or quieter until results turn - and even then people will hide away until the next poor run of results. The only part I find frustrating about this is a lot of people were asking for a complete change in direction after the failings of Hughes et al. We've got change and the same people demanding it were seemingly not prepared to wait longer than a few months for it to change given how quick they jumped in. In short, it is what it is. But you gave Rowett a chance initially mate and that’s the difference ....there’s a handful on here who just criticise and have it in for any player signed by the club and Nathan Jones Like I said earlier it’s not normal |
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Post by Gordon Marshall on Jul 28, 2019 9:04:09 GMT
Bring back Waggy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 9:05:44 GMT
We've been on a bad run of results and performances since January 2016,3 and a half years.
Nothing I'm seeing at the moment gives me any reason to believe that is going to change anytime soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 9:10:04 GMT
Some battle lines were drawn as early as the end of February last season. Once that happens, there is no way back for some. It's a fact of life - some people will like the manager and give him time, others don't and won't and will look to extract every last ounce of negativity from any situation. I can't moan too much personally as I was the same with Rowett last season. Openly disliked him and didn't trust him. You either log on and try and make a difference or walk away and ignore it. I can't see it getting much better or quieter until results turn - and even then people will hide away until the next poor run of results. The only part I find frustrating about this is a lot of people were asking for a complete change in direction after the failings of Hughes et al. We've got change and the same people demanding it were seemingly not prepared to wait longer than a few months for it to change given how quick they jumped in. In short, it is what it is. But you gave Rowett a chance initially mate and that’s the difference ....there’s a handful on here who just criticise and have it in for any player signed by the club and Nathan Jones Like I said earlier it’s not normal That's nonsense though isn't it. The critics on here listen to NJ saying A,B and C and producing X,Y and Z. I mean how does fast flowing attacking football with fit pacy hungry players equate with Ward, Gregory, Powell. It just doesn't. People are well entitled to criticise that. |
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Post by nott1 on Jul 28, 2019 9:12:26 GMT
Some battle lines were drawn as early as the end of February last season. Once that happens, there is no way back for some. It's a fact of life - some people will like the manager and give him time, others don't and won't and will look to extract every last ounce of negativity from any situation. I can't moan too much personally as I was the same with Rowett last season. Openly disliked him and didn't trust him. You either log on and try and make a difference or walk away and ignore it. I can't see it getting much better or quieter until results turn - and even then people will hide away until the next poor run of results. The only part I find frustrating about this is a lot of people were asking for a complete change in direction after the failings of Hughes et al. We've got change and the same people demanding it were seemingly not prepared to wait longer than a few months for it to change given how quick they jumped in. In short, it is what it is. Good comment but the reason that Jones gets a bit of stick is that a lot of people were not convinced that an inexperienced League One manager was perhaps the best choic, and his treatment of a couple of decent players has not been top drawer. However as one of his critics I hope he tops the division and proves me wrong. We do have the club embedded in our hearts and do not always feel the same towards individual management! |
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