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Post by lordb on Jul 28, 2019 9:13:10 GMT
I'd ask on the evidence of yesterday, have any of our major shortcomings from last season been addressed? This is a perfectly reasonable post however you are missing the point. Airing concerns, outright criticism is one thing the sheer bile on this board is way beyond that. It's so poisonous it's embarrassing.
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Post by werrington on Jul 28, 2019 9:15:38 GMT
But you gave Rowett a chance initially mate and that’s the difference ....there’s a handful on here who just criticise and have it in for any player signed by the club and Nathan Jones Like I said earlier it’s not normal That's nonsense though isn't it. The critics on here listen to NJ saying A,B and C and producing X,Y and Z. I mean how does fast flowing attacking football with fit pacy hungry players equate with Ward, Gregory, Powell. It just doesn't. People are well entitled to criticise that. That’s nonsense
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 9:16:46 GMT
That's nonsense though isn't it. The critics on here listen to NJ saying A,B and C and producing X,Y and Z. I mean how does fast flowing attacking football with fit pacy hungry players equate with Ward, Gregory, Powell. It just doesn't. People are well entitled to criticise that. That’s nonsense Nonsense
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Post by werrington on Jul 28, 2019 9:17:58 GMT
Some battle lines were drawn as early as the end of February last season. Once that happens, there is no way back for some. It's a fact of life - some people will like the manager and give him time, others don't and won't and will look to extract every last ounce of negativity from any situation. I can't moan too much personally as I was the same with Rowett last season. Openly disliked him and didn't trust him. You either log on and try and make a difference or walk away and ignore it. I can't see it getting much better or quieter until results turn - and even then people will hide away until the next poor run of results. The only part I find frustrating about this is a lot of people were asking for a complete change in direction after the failings of Hughes et al. We've got change and the same people demanding it were seemingly not prepared to wait longer than a few months for it to change given how quick they jumped in. In short, it is what it is. Good comment but the reason that Jones gets a bit of stick is that a lot of people were not convinced that an inexperienced League One manager was perhaps the best choic, and his treatment of a couple of decent players has not been top drawer. However as one of his critics I hope he tops the division and proves me wrong. We do have the club embedded in our hearts and do not always feel the same towards individual management! Aah the good old “hope he proves me wrong” bollocks How’s about giving him a chance first
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 28, 2019 9:19:41 GMT
I'd ask on the evidence of yesterday, have any of our major shortcomings from last season been addressed? This is a perfectly reasonable post however you are missing the point. Airing concerns, outright criticism is one thing the sheer bile on this board is way beyond that. It's so poisonous it's embarrassing. I think its the trajectory of the decline myself. It has been steep and pretty nasty. We've won 13 of our last 65 league games. I'm not sure what people expect the fans to be doing to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 9:20:39 GMT
I genuinely hope they close this messageboard board down when the fanzine finishes. Once upon a time (a long time ago mind) this place used to be a decent destination for an informed debate about the club and footballing matters and was often a treasure trove of wit and insight. Unfortunately it's now used almost exclusively by moaning arseholes and racists. I know supporters of all clubs like to be critical and are notoriously fickle but if you were a rival fan who happened to come across this board then you'd form the opinion that Stoke fans are the biggest bunch of wankers going. It's a fucking embarrassment. didn’t I read you calling somebody a stupid cunt the other day?
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Post by onefatcopper on Jul 28, 2019 9:22:18 GMT
At the moment there’s 4472 threads on this site, why have you picked on this one ? Is it getting lonely out there in the sea of misery or is no one paying attention to you anymore ? I'm making the point that if you want a more cheery disposition in the stands and on the messageboard, then it might stem from something a bit more positive on the pitch so the point is germane to this thread, you pompous anus. You have been on here two minutes and your already launching personal attack’s ? the Point is, that it was a FRIENDLY game ! No points were lost, No League table, it was a game against the former Premier League Champions whose team contained current internationals that cost millions and managed by the man who broke all the records in Scotland. One thing that might have slipped peoples attention yesterday was that while the majority of the Premier League clubs have been crisscrossing the globe, Leicester have stayed in the UK and all their friendly matches have been against British clubs. So they weren’t some jet lagged tourists arriving for some kick around, this was a full strength team primed and ready to steal a march on the big six !
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Post by ChesterStokie on Jul 28, 2019 9:23:25 GMT
We really do need a couple of decent wins early on don’t we?
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Post by nott1 on Jul 28, 2019 9:23:47 GMT
Good comment but the reason that Jones gets a bit of stick is that a lot of people were not convinced that an inexperienced League One manager was perhaps the best choic, and his treatment of a couple of decent players has not been top drawer. However as one of his critics I hope he tops the division and proves me wrong. We do have the club embedded in our hearts and do not always feel the same towards individual management! Aah the good old “hope he proves me wrong” bollocks How’s about giving him a chance first It's not bollocks at all, he can still be given a chance but nobody is above criticism surely.
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Post by werrington on Jul 28, 2019 9:24:53 GMT
Aah the good old “hope he proves me wrong” bollocks How’s about giving him a chance first It's not bollocks at all, he can still be given a chance but nobody is above criticism surely. No he isn’t and that’s not my point though is it
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 28, 2019 9:25:06 GMT
I'm making the point that if you want a more cheery disposition in the stands and on the messageboard, then it might stem from something a bit more positive on the pitch so the point is germane to this thread, you pompous anus. You have been on here two minutes and your already launching personal attack’s ? the Point is, that it was a FRIENDLY game ! No points were lost, No League table, it was a game against the former Premier League Champions whose team contained current internationals that cost millions and managed by the man who broke all the records in Scotland. One thing that might have slipped peoples attention yesterday was that while the majority of the Premier League clubs have been crisscrossing the globe, Leicester have stayed in the UK and all their friendly matches have been against British clubs. So they weren’t some jet lagged tourists arriving for some kick around, this was a full strength team primed and ready to steal a march on the big six ! For all that though a lot of the issues yesterday were to do with us and of our own making. I’ve got no problem being patient and with things taking time but there have been a few decisions/signings/selections made so far that have left me scratching my head and if you can’t say so on here, what’s the point of the forum?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 9:25:44 GMT
Jesus Christ. It’s a message board where people can have different opinions! You don’t what someone said? Challenge it. Offer evidence to the contrary.
It’s absolutely bloody pathetic whinging about people whinging.
Get a grip of yourselves. As for talking about other sites “moderation” - do we live in a police state? Not being happy that Smith is playing instead of Edwards surely doesn’t count as “abuse” that must be taken down?
I use Smith/Edwards as fine example: what’s negative in this situation? That people wanted the young lad who earned that spot last season to keep it but for Smith have an absolutely amazing preseason (which he hasn’t) or being happy he’s likely going to be sat on the bench for someone who barely played last season and hasn’t been any better preseason?
It works both ways.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 28, 2019 9:26:37 GMT
I'm making the point that if you want a more cheery disposition in the stands and on the messageboard, then it might stem from something a bit more positive on the pitch so the point is germane to this thread, you pompous anus. You have been on here two minutes and your already launching personal attack’s ? the Point is, that it was a FRIENDLY game ! No points were lost, No League table, it was a game against the former Premier League Champions whose team contained current internationals that cost millions and managed by the man who broke all the records in Scotland. One thing that might have slipped peoples attention yesterday was that while the majority of the Premier League clubs have been crisscrossing the globe, Leicester have stayed in the UK and all their friendly matches have been against British clubs. So they weren’t some jet lagged tourists arriving for some kick around, this was a full strength team primed and ready to steal a march on the big six ! Well you started it! The result was irrelevant, we could have lost by half a dozen but still come out with more positivity than we did yesterday. I'm just not looking forward to another season of the same old, stale old, guileless shite and yesterday gave me no hope at all that what we will be seeing will be any different. We're still flabby and predictable. It's a two way street, for more positivity off the pitch we really need to start seeing something on it.
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 28, 2019 9:27:07 GMT
Wins 4 of the 5 preseason games, loses 1 and everyone lost faith already. You couldn't make it up could you?
Guess what guys, we played against Leicester City in case you forgot. We won't have to come up against the likes of 80million pound man Harry Maguire, 40million pound man Youri Tielemans or Premier League consistent scorer Jamie Vardy this season.
Seasons not even started and so many on here are writing them off. You've made your judgments already, it seems, and you will all come crawling out of your rocks the moment we have a sub-par performance.
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Post by danceswithclams on Jul 28, 2019 9:27:30 GMT
I genuinely hope they close this messageboard board down when the fanzine finishes. Once upon a time (a long time ago mind) this place used to be a decent destination for an informed debate about the club and footballing matters and was often a treasure trove of wit and insight. Unfortunately it's now used almost exclusively by moaning arseholes and racists. I know supporters of all clubs like to be critical and are notoriously fickle but if you were a rival fan who happened to come across this board then you'd form the opinion that Stoke fans are the biggest bunch of wankers going. It's a fucking embarrassment. didn’t I read you calling somebody a stupid cunt the other day? Yes mate, you did. This is the level that things has been sucked down to. It's a morass of idiocy, bile, hatred and negativity. Any chance of reasoned debate is lost. It's a race to the bottom.
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Jul 28, 2019 9:28:12 GMT
I read a comment here yesterday slating McLean and Allen's performances, which couldn't be further from what I saw with my own eyes. It seems some people are content to keep feeding their own negative opinions whether or not it matches reality. What's the point of following a club if all you are going to do is build up your own imaginary case against everyone who works there?
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Post by Trouserdog on Jul 28, 2019 9:28:53 GMT
The MB's gone down the toilet faster than the team has.
The Everything Else board needs taking down- it's basically a playground for racists and a complete embarrassment.
This board's gone downhill due to the relentless negativity of one person who seems to think it's his mission in life to drag every thread into the same anti-Jones, anti-Butland, anti-Allen, anti-Stoke rant.
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Post by str8outtahampton on Jul 28, 2019 9:30:02 GMT
I genuinely hope they close this messageboard board down when the fanzine finishes. Once upon a time (a long time ago mind) this place used to be a decent destination for an informed debate about the club and footballing matters and was often a treasure trove of wit and insight. Unfortunately it's now used almost exclusively by moaning arseholes and racists. I know supporters of all clubs like to be critical and are notoriously fickle but if you were a rival fan who happened to come across this board then you'd form the opinion that Stoke fans are the biggest bunch of wankers going. It's a fucking embarrassment. Moaning Arseholes. Weren't they on that same bill with Pompous Anus? I think their bass player was on the "lookalike" slot on Never Mind The Buzzcocks a few years ago. "Dave Trousers. Back in the studio, recording new material. Sorry - back in Morrison's, stacking shelves".
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Post by werrington on Jul 28, 2019 9:30:14 GMT
The MB's gone down the toilet faster than the team has. The Everything Else board needs taking down- it's basically a playground for racists and a complete embarrassment. This board's gone downhill due to the relentless negativity of one person who seems to think it's his mission in life to drag every thread into the same anti-Jones, anti-Butland, anti-Allen, anti-Stoke rant. There’s one worse than him mate
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Post by onefatcopper on Jul 28, 2019 9:32:39 GMT
I am sincerely sick of the people on this site who most probably have Stoke in their hearts but they just have to voice constant negativity and after each game their bile distorts the reality of the game. Yesterday we played a team that has lots of premiership quality and current England international players. I was disappointed that we lost the game because we didn't deserve to. Bayern says we were "overun" down the left! Really? Another was complaining that Smith played and not Edwards! It's is fantastic that we have two great defenders. Get over it! I believe that Nathan Jones has so far done a marvellous job with the team. It was easy to see Leicester's superior quality but we never let it phase us. Our inability to clinically finish chances ruined our performance. Already our forwards look much more mobile than last year but good chances were missed especially the penalty. Too many people on this site are letting their anger distort the reality of what is going on at the club. They have formed their opinions and after each game they will bombard this site with their unrealistic comments! Isn't it about time you all do what supporters are supposed to do and get behind the team and make this site a little more enjoyable to look at. This was the original post by Silverdollar, a ray of hope ! And already this thread has been invaded by the usual suspects trawling over a defeat in a friendly match ? God have mercy upon us.
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Post by gibby1409 on Jul 28, 2019 9:34:55 GMT
This is a perfectly reasonable post however you are missing the point. Airing concerns, outright criticism is one thing the sheer bile on this board is way beyond that. It's so poisonous it's embarrassing. I think its the trajectory of the decline myself. It has been steep and pretty nasty. We've won 13 of our last 65 league games. I'm not sure what people expect the fans to be doing to be honest. I think what the OP was driving at, and I agree, is that there is a poisonous atmosphere on the board generally? Some posters are desperate to be proved right, and that their consistent predictions of doom and gloom be proved correct. Sheik, I think that both you and I know that if we’d won 45 out of the last 65 games, then the usual suspects would still have been spouting their bile in similar measures? Unfortunately, it’s driving people away from the Oatie,and whether the mods like it or not, it reflects badly on them, and something needs to change soon, so that normal debates and differing opinions can be aired without all the bile that goes with it?
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Post by daveandeddy on Jul 28, 2019 9:35:19 GMT
I don't post as much as I used to Its not so much the negativity for me I can take it or leave it.... it's more about the lost humour and the fact the site is becoming more and more like a version of facebook by the week.... If moaners want to moan...so what? Does anyone really think this has a negative effect on the pitch?
You pays your money you have every right to voice your opinion As all years am looking forward to next week and shouting me nuts out....apologies in advance to the lady in front who tuts and throws me daggers...
COME ON YOU RIP FUCKING ROARING FUCKING POTTERS.....
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Post by senojbor on Jul 28, 2019 9:36:13 GMT
No it’s not the forum itself and I for one would be devastated if it were to be closed down. Think of what you could do with the spare time instead.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2019 9:37:34 GMT
We were overrun down the left.
If you can’t see that you either know nothing about football or aren’t being honest.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jul 28, 2019 9:37:45 GMT
Two things to the moaners of yesterday (I was coming back from holiday so no real idea about the match) but 1. Did you notice the other results Championship teams had against Premiership and 2. Don't you think the injury to Shawcross might have affected the performance a.because it was horrific and b.because he was captain and whatever people think gives a lot of guidance during a game.
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Post by werrington on Jul 28, 2019 9:40:43 GMT
We were overrun down the left. If you can’t see that you either know nothing about football or aren’t being honest. Hey up here we go again and that post pretty much sums you up Bayern
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 9:42:10 GMT
Can I just check with some of the people moaning about this site being negative:
Is it just a case that you’re not allowed to be negative about the new regime but it’s fine to constantly slate players in the bomb squad who gave their all for this club (e.g. Diouf, Bojan, BMI, Pieters)?
Cos the worst bile I’ve seen on this board is from SOME of you directed at them on threads about them 👀
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2019 9:43:41 GMT
We were overrun down the left. If you can’t see that you either know nothing about football or aren’t being honest. Hey up here we go again and that post pretty much sums you up Bayern I’m honest. It doesn’t what the opposition was yesterday that left hand side was an abortion. If people don’t want to see that then that isn’t my issue is it? The OP is a complete fabrication of the game anyway. So I’m good with my views.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Jul 28, 2019 9:46:39 GMT
I am sincerely sick of the people on this site who most probably have Stoke in their hearts but they just have to voice constant negativity and after each game their bile distorts the reality of the game. Yesterday we played a team that has lots of premiership quality and current England international players. I was disappointed that we lost the game because we didn't deserve to. Bayern says we were "overun" down the left! Really? Another was complaining that Smith played and not Edwards! It's is fantastic that we have two great defenders. Get over it! I believe that Nathan Jones has so far done a marvellous job with the team. It was easy to see Leicester's superior quality but we never let it phase us. Our inability to clinically finish chances ruined our performance. Already our forwards look much more mobile than last year but good chances were missed especially the penalty. Too many people on this site are letting their anger distort the reality of what is going on at the club. They have formed their opinions and after each game they will bombard this site with their unrealistic comments! Isn't it about time you all do what supporters are supposed to do and get behind the team and make this site a little more enjoyable to look at. Said the same a long time ago mate. I no longer go to games because of the drivel that comes from the stands either. People say that our team has dropped like a stone but our so called fans have far outweighed the teams demise.
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Post by senojbor on Jul 28, 2019 9:49:01 GMT
Leicester are a very good side with a lot of good players with skill and pace and will finish top end of PL. So I wouldn't read too much into the result. The game against QPR will tell us more.
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