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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 0:31:44 GMT
I really don’t get the hate for Ince. He’s a cracking player who just needs to be used right. #10 isn’t that mind. Without disagreeing that he has quality, he is incredibly weak, his downfall numerous times last season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 20, 2019 0:34:16 GMT
I really don’t get the hate for Ince. He’s a cracking player who just needs to be used right. #10 isn’t that mind. Without disagreeing that he has quality, he is incredibly weak, his downfall numerous times last season. He’s a winger. He won fouls in dangerous places. I don’t overly give a crap if he’s weak tbh.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jul 20, 2019 6:46:35 GMT
I personally think he was a huge disappointment last season (not the only one), good player on his day but system doesn't suit him. I think he needs yet another move
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Post by wilcopotter on Jul 20, 2019 7:25:46 GMT
Hopefully at another club. Imo, too predictable, no heart, not as good as he thinks he is. Track record says good Championship player. Hopefully, he’ll prove to be that next season if he stays.
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Post by thehoof on Jul 20, 2019 8:17:39 GMT
He is really nothing special, which is why he never lasts anywhere for any length of time. If he stays perhaps Jones will get the tune out of him that some think he’s capable of, if he leaves, would we notice? He's already shown he's capable in this league, at more than one club. So why is he constantly being moved on? Is he a super player that people just don’t know how to handle? Is he a disruptive element ( or is his Dad to blame?), either way he is not capable of maintaining the level of consistent form required to be a reliable player in a team.
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Post by gogogadget on Jul 20, 2019 8:49:38 GMT
I really don’t get the hate for Ince. He’s a cracking player who just needs to be used right. #10 isn’t that mind. I respect your opinion, But he is not cracking. Defensively he is poor, attacking wise, he is a too one dimensional. His attitude on the pitch comes across as he is a spoilt brat sometimes (which doesn't help him) Bang average really. And his career path confirms that really
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 20, 2019 8:57:13 GMT
The hatred that Ince gets is a bit weird.
He's like Shaqiri, in that he's a bit of a pansy who looks good on the highlights reel and lacks any real physical attributes. However, he's unlike Shaqiri in that he gets goals and assists without being injured for most of the season.
Despite this, Ince is reviled in most parts of Stoke, usually amongst the same people who regard Shaqiri as our most talented player of the last ten years.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 20, 2019 9:19:10 GMT
He's already shown he's capable in this league, at more than one club. So why is he constantly being moved on? Is he a super player that people just don’t know how to handle? Is he a disruptive element ( or is his Dad to blame?), either way he is not capable of maintaining the level of consistent form required to be a reliable player in a team. Is he 'constantly being moved on'? He's been moved on from Prem clubs because he wasn't quite up to sniff at that level but left Championship clubs because he was at the very top of that level. Derby, Blackpool etc weren't desperate to 'move him on', he was one of their best players.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 20, 2019 9:19:39 GMT
Nick Powell is likely to play every week for one. Ince does give us an option and does add something else despite his poor form last 1/3 of the season. It's unlikely Powell will stay fit for a full season.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 20, 2019 9:19:45 GMT
The hatred that Ince gets is a bit weird. He's like Shaqiri, in that he's a bit of a pansy who looks good on the highlights reel and lacks any real physical attributes. However, he's unlike Shaqiri in that he gets goals and assists without being injured for most of the season. Despite this, Ince is reviled in most parts of Stoke, usually amongst the same people who regard Shaqiri as our most talented player of the last ten years. It's at least in part because of who his dad is.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 20, 2019 9:26:52 GMT
I really don’t get the hate for Ince. He’s a cracking player who just needs to be used right. #10 isn’t that mind. We have to have hate at Stoke. Talented player who had a good first half season but disappointing second in his first season at a club in transition = reason to hate. Didn't you know that?
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Post by kelw on Jul 20, 2019 9:59:02 GMT
The hatred that Ince gets is a bit weird. He's like Shaqiri, in that he's a bit of a pansy who looks good on the highlights reel and lacks any real physical attributes. However, he's unlike Shaqiri in that he gets goals and assists without being injured for most of the season. Despite this, Ince is reviled in most parts of Stoke, usually amongst the same people who regard Shaqiri as our most talented player of the last ten years. It's at least in part because of who his dad is. Harsh really as his Dad was a hard working , Kosovan road repairer. I don't get some people
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Post by tony1234 on Jul 20, 2019 10:10:15 GMT
He is really nothing special, which is why he never lasts anywhere for any length of time. If he stays perhaps Jones will get the tune out of him that some think he’s capable of, if he leaves, would we notice? He’s had, I think, 6 seasons in the Champs and been amongst the most impactful players in 5 of them. This is with 3 clubs. Clucas and Woods have been stars at Champ clubs. Vokes has a very strong track record, but barely looked a force last year. Meanwhile weve declined year year on year for 3 years. And the narrative has become that each and every one of these players we add is crap. While the onus is on Ince to perform, nothing suggests he wouldn’t if at a club where the footballing side of the club wasn’t run by amateurs - letting slide basic standards of fitness and professionalism at times . Jury out on NJ now to be the force to change that, but I’d be more impressed if he got these evidently talented and proven players to be motivated and to perform in a system, than buy a shed load of honest ordinary Joes, with the suggestion being it’s what he can cope with.
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Post by toppercorner on Jul 20, 2019 10:16:28 GMT
Don't mind Ince, however i think if we are able to sell, it'll actually settle the balance for remaining midfielders.
I'd personally cash in (along with Allen, BMI, Bauer, NDiaye, Clucas, Wimmer, Imbula)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 10:20:45 GMT
Without disagreeing that he has quality, he is incredibly weak, his downfall numerous times last season. He’s a winger. He won fouls in dangerous places. I don’t overly give a crap if he’s weak tbh. He's a winger in a team that doesn't employ wingers. That's asking for trouble.
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Post by numberounominion on Jul 21, 2019 12:33:02 GMT
He has a great first touch and real quality on the ball
But he can't be arsed
If I was Nj I couldn't find a place for him
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Post by tony1234 on Jul 21, 2019 12:43:45 GMT
While we have the diamond, do we not think we also need a Plan B? Otherwise its going to get very easy for opposing teams to read our game? And would that Plan B not likely involve having more width and game-changers about the squad? So long as we have Verlinden and Ince, we have that option of a Plan B.
No one is talking about Plan B's - understandably so, as we are seeing whether Plan A works - but there may come a time we will lament being too predictable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 12:45:06 GMT
He has a great first touch and real quality on the ball But he can't be arsed If I was Nj I couldn't find a place for him This is why people don’t like him. Because he doesn’t look bothers, hides and goes missing. It’s frustrating to watch.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jul 21, 2019 12:46:19 GMT
He has a great first touch and real quality on the ball But he can't be arsed If I was Nj I couldn't find a place for him This is why people don’t like him. Because he doesn’t look bothers, hides and goes missing. It’s frustrating to watch. And becomes an acrobat to avoid contact in a 50/50
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 12:47:38 GMT
This is why people don’t like him. Because he doesn’t look bothers, hides and goes missing. It’s frustrating to watch. And becomes an acrobat to avoid contact in a 50/50 Glad you’ve ditched the rubix cube analogy mate!
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jul 21, 2019 12:49:33 GMT
And becomes an acrobat to avoid contact in a 50/50 Glad you’ve ditched the rubix cube analogy mate! The rubix cube twists from the top, a bit like Thomas' legs spinning at head height when a nasty man is trying to get to the ball first 🤭
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jul 21, 2019 12:51:11 GMT
Should call him Chun li actually, the Japanese girl off street fighter 2 with her upside down spinning bird kick
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 21, 2019 12:56:21 GMT
She's Chinese.
I'll tolerate a lot, but not people getting Street Fighter 2 wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 12:59:36 GMT
Glad you’ve ditched the rubix cube analogy mate! The rubix cube twists from the top, a bit like Thomas' legs spinning at head height when a nasty man is trying to get to the ball first 🤭 Please not again 😂
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Post by toppercorner on Jul 21, 2019 13:13:53 GMT
sell sell sell!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 13:18:15 GMT
The hatred that Ince gets is a bit weird. He's like Shaqiri, in that he's a bit of a pansy who looks good on the highlights reel and lacks any real physical attributes. However, he's unlike Shaqiri in that he gets goals and assists without being injured for most of the season. Despite this, Ince is reviled in most parts of Stoke, usually amongst the same people who regard Shaqiri as our most talented player of the last ten years. Wow. That's a doozy. Shaqiri didn't get goals or assists? Bollocks Shaqiri was injured for most of the season? He missed 9 games in his entire Stoke career through injury. I have nothing against Ince, but Shaqiri certainly is in the top 3 of our most talented players for over a decade.
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Post by ParaPsych on Jul 21, 2019 13:58:04 GMT
The hatred that Ince gets is a bit weird. He's like Shaqiri, in that he's a bit of a pansy who looks good on the highlights reel and lacks any real physical attributes. However, he's unlike Shaqiri in that he gets goals and assists without being injured for most of the season. Despite this, Ince is reviled in most parts of Stoke, usually amongst the same people who regard Shaqiri as our most talented player of the last ten years. Wow. That's a doozy. Shaqiri didn't get goals or assists? Bollocks Shaqiri was injured for most of the season? He missed 9 games in his entire Stoke career through injury. I have nothing against Ince, but Shaqiri certainly is in the top 3 of our most talented players for over a decade. He started just 22 games one season and I'm pretty sure he wasn't dropped?
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Post by royalewithcheese on Jul 21, 2019 14:28:26 GMT
The hatred that Ince gets is a bit weird. He's like Shaqiri, in that he's a bit of a pansy who looks good on the highlights reel and lacks any real physical attributes. However, he's unlike Shaqiri in that he gets goals and assists without being injured for most of the season. Despite this, Ince is reviled in most parts of Stoke, usually amongst the same people who regard Shaqiri as our most talented player of the last ten years. It's at least in part because of who his dad is. Bollocks. I couldn't give a fuck if his dad was Hitler. I'm judging him on what hes done in a stoke shirt. Period.
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Post by royalewithcheese on Jul 21, 2019 14:30:00 GMT
Hes a Hollywood player. Occasionally strikes a wonder goal or pings a beauty of a pass. Some times he is even capable of a mazy Maradonna run (normally ending in some weak ass piss collapse).
It's all decoration though.
When it comes down to it. The crux of it all. Hes often not good enough. Or completely absent.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 15:01:52 GMT
Didn't he start out as a left winger ? I'm sure he played on the left for Blackpool,no ?
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