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Post by neddy on Jul 6, 2019 18:56:29 GMT
I really hate Levy and hope one day we can stripe him up! Probably never happen though?
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Post by liathroid on Jul 6, 2019 19:22:22 GMT
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 6, 2019 19:32:08 GMT
I will always maintain someone got very rich from that deal. Wimmer is an awful centre back, the worst signing Stoke have ever made or are likely to make.
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Post by DC1863 on Jul 6, 2019 19:37:26 GMT
Looks like NJ isn't interested in Tymon then if he isn't travelling.
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Post by iglugluk on Jul 6, 2019 19:54:12 GMT
I will always maintain someone got very rich from that deal. Wimmer is an awful centre back, the worst signing Stoke have ever made or are likely to make. Yes it has to be said that it definitely smells bad from all angles .. well from a Stoke point of view anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 20:04:22 GMT
Looks like NJ isn't interested in Tymon then if he isn't travelling. He hasn't been interested in him since he subbed him off in the first half of a game last season!
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Post by iglugluk on Jul 6, 2019 20:10:00 GMT
Looks like NJ isn't interested in Tymon then if he isn't travelling. He hasn't been interested in him since he subbed him off in the first half of a game last season! I dont blame him.. cant say as I had any interest after seeing him at Bristol in the cup:D
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 6, 2019 20:23:51 GMT
Looks like NJ isn't interested in Tymon then if he isn't travelling. He hasn't been interested in him since he subbed him off in the first half of a game last season! He's a strange one is Tymon, seemed a really good signing at the time. Failed to make an impression at Stoke and went on loan to MK Dons who at the time were managed by a guy who had previously been involved in the England youth set up. Looked a perfect chance for Tymon to get some game time and guidance from a respected coach, as it was he hardly played at MK Dons during that loan spell. The one game he played for NJ he was made an example of, I thought it was harsh at the time but he's clearly lacking sommat!! There seems to be a character flaw.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 6, 2019 20:26:43 GMT
Tymon is a really good footballer imo.
But defensively shocking.
Iād like to see him being used on the wing in the future.
Donāt think heās been helped since he got here mind.
Jones selecting him last year was madness.
Needs to leave to for himself more than anything.
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Post by stokefan1972 on Jul 6, 2019 20:57:17 GMT
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Post by stokefan1972 on Jul 6, 2019 20:58:34 GMT
just put together by some blogger
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Post by fca47 on Jul 6, 2019 21:02:07 GMT
Mark Hughes must have been the only person in the whole world who thought he was worth more than Ā£5 million, and at that price it turns out we were done.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 7, 2019 0:19:51 GMT
Mark Hughes must have been the only person in the whole world who thought he was worth more than Ā£5 million, and at that price it turns out we were done. TP wanted him too. And thatās where I think the manager and CEO got carried away....
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 7, 2019 6:11:22 GMT
Tymon is a really good footballer imo. But defensively shocking. Iād like to see him being used on the wing in the future. Donāt think heās been helped since he got here mind. Jones selecting him last year was madness. Needs to leave to for himself more than anything. It appears that if you take a liking to a player, and theyāre not getting game time or didnāt play well when played, then theyāve been over coached, under coached, or thrown under the coach. Always someone elseās fault š¤£
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 7, 2019 6:24:16 GMT
Tymon is a really good footballer imo. But defensively shocking. Iād like to see him being used on the wing in the future. Donāt think heās been helped since he got here mind. Jones selecting him last year was madness. Needs to leave to for himself more than anything. Thatās the problem with modern football A lot of fullbacks are shit at defending it may only be me but I long for the day when fullbacks got nosebleeds if they crossed the half way line
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 7, 2019 10:04:39 GMT
Tymon is a really good footballer imo. But defensively shocking. Iād like to see him being used on the wing in the future. Donāt think heās been helped since he got here mind. Jones selecting him last year was madness. Needs to leave to for himself more than anything. It appears that if you take a liking to a player, and theyāre not getting game time or didnāt play well when played, then theyāve been over coached, under coached, or thrown under the coach. Always someone elseās fault š¤£ Iām just going off what someone who was in the system (Rich Carter) has said on Twitter tbh. I donāt like him as a defender and think thereās no hope there.
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Post by apb1979 on Jul 7, 2019 15:20:24 GMT
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 7, 2019 17:14:36 GMT
Tymon is a really good footballer imo. But defensively shocking. Iād like to see him being used on the wing in the future. Donāt think heās been helped since he got here mind. Jones selecting him last year was madness.Needs to leave to for himself more than anything. Unbelievable. If a young player doesn't get picked it's the manager's fault for not giving him a chance and if a young player gets a chance and doesn't take it it's the managers fault for picking him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 7, 2019 17:18:10 GMT
Tymon is a really good footballer imo. But defensively shocking. Iād like to see him being used on the wing in the future. Donāt think heās been helped since he got here mind. Jones selecting him last year was madness.Needs to leave to for himself more than anything. Unbelievable. If a young player doesn't get picked it's the manager's fault for not giving him a chance and if a young player gets a chance and doesn't take it it's the managers fault for picking him. Thatās a very weird way of looking at it. Some are ready and some arenāt. If you had watched Tymon you would know he wasnāt ready and shouldnāt have been close to being used. It was madness.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 8, 2019 3:21:30 GMT
Unbelievable. If a young player doesn't get picked it's the manager's fault for not giving him a chance and if a young player gets a chance and doesn't take it it's the managers fault for picking him. Thatās a very weird way of looking at it. Some are ready and some arenāt. If you had watched Tymon you would know he wasnāt ready and shouldnāt have been close to being used. It was madness. Ever considered a role in professional football management Bayern, your encyclopedic footballing knowledge coupled with an uncanny ability to spot the precise time to blood the youngsters should see you managing England in now time. š¤£ Only teasing š
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Post by ceejays on Jul 8, 2019 4:45:27 GMT
No it was not madness at all. Jones said every player would get a chance. He spent his time evaluating every player and giving them a chance. Tymon cannot say however brief was that chance that Jones didnāt keep his word. Itās called man management. He gave Sorensen a brief chance too albeit as substitute, Its pretty clear now Jones evaluated the squad fairly quickly given the players he has brought in after excessive due diligence . That work started almost immediately he had said. Jones has bought players to fit his system. He has a plan. Compare that to our previous practice of buying players almost willy nilly and trying to shoe horn them into a team with no identity. I have faith in Jones, That said I think itās going to take at least two more windows so Iām not expecting automatic promotion this year. You can inherit the baggage he has and expect it to be turned round on six months.
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Post by ceejays on Jul 8, 2019 4:46:45 GMT
Canāt not can
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 8, 2019 5:52:18 GMT
Thatās a very weird way of looking at it. Some are ready and some arenāt. If you had watched Tymon you would know he wasnāt ready and shouldnāt have been close to being used. It was madness. Ever considered a role in professional football management Bayern, your encyclopedic footballing knowledge coupled with an uncanny ability to spot the precise time to blood the youngsters should see you managing England in now time. š¤£ Only teasing š Anyone who has watched Tymon play for us wouldnāt want him to play. Thereās a big list of players who have played better than he has for our youth teams nevermind how heās looked in the first team. Itās my biggest issue with Jones actually. He did stuff that could have been avoided by watching tapes of us. 433 and Tymon being the main two.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 8, 2019 6:55:08 GMT
Ever considered a role in professional football management Bayern, your encyclopedic footballing knowledge coupled with an uncanny ability to spot the precise time to blood the youngsters should see you managing England in now time. š¤£ Only teasing š Anyone who has watched Tymon play for us wouldnāt want him to play. Thereās a big list of players who have played better than he has for our youth teams nevermind how heās looked in the first team. Itās my biggest issue with Jones actually. He did stuff that could have been avoided by watching tapes of us. 433 and Tymon being the main two. Whatās a tape š
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Post by neddy on Jul 8, 2019 7:15:18 GMT
A tape is a cross between a toe rag and a monkey......urban dictionary!
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 8, 2019 7:29:42 GMT
Unbelievable. If a young player doesn't get picked it's the manager's fault for not giving him a chance and if a young player gets a chance and doesn't take it it's the managers fault for picking him. Thatās a very weird way of looking at it. Some are ready and some arenāt. If you had watched Tymon you would know he wasnāt ready and shouldnāt have been close to being used. It was madness. But you also said he he's a good footballer and should be played on the wing (which is also a strange way of dealing with a player who isn't good enough to play in his main position). I'm fine with giving a young player a chance - and there was nothing wrong with Jones having a look at Tymon. Fact is he blew his chance big time and now looks like he doesn't have a future at the club and if he isn't up to it having it demonstrated it on the pitch is no bad thing, It's a tough profession and some players look great at youth level and can't make it in the professional game - and vice versa. When a manager gets to picking the first team there's no room for sentiment and young players should be treated like any other player and only gain a regular place on merit.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 8, 2019 8:22:39 GMT
A tape is a cross between a toe rag and a monkey......urban dictionary! Thanks brate š
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 9:09:14 GMT
I really hate Levy and hope one day we can stripe him up! Probably never happen though? Only if you do it yourself
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 9:19:02 GMT
When Wimmer comes good at his next club, and he will, he's a brilliant player, there will be more laughs on us. We could have secured a great transfer fee and sell ons, instead we are consigning him to the scrapyard. I don't think he was given a fair chance, and certainly no chance at all by Jones. He came here unfit but was never allowed the time to get in shape before he was evrybody's favourite target. He's just a scapegoat for what went wrong here.
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Post by adi on Jul 8, 2019 9:28:00 GMT
I will always maintain someone got very rich from that deal. Wimmer is an awful centre back, the worst signing Stoke have ever made or are likely to make. Worse than Palacios, Brek Shea or Afobe?!
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