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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Jun 19, 2019 18:42:39 GMT
Anything to stop Imbula being our record signing.
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Post by kelw on Jun 19, 2019 18:57:12 GMT
Never worth 20m in a million years. A goal every 2.3 games. If he gets us back to the Premier League would be worth every penny but as someone has said is unlikely would be £20 million flat
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Post by sportsman on Jun 19, 2019 19:04:13 GMT
Will end up with Gayle off Corrie 😎 At least we've seen her 25 times.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jun 19, 2019 19:06:38 GMT
He is, quite simply, the best "Championship" level striker around.
He would be well worth 20mill.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jun 19, 2019 19:14:11 GMT
He is, quite simply, the best "Championship" level striker around. He would be well worth 20mill. This.
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Post by bloodtypered on Jun 19, 2019 19:14:51 GMT
Get him...gets goals
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Post by teenagefanclub on Jun 19, 2019 19:25:09 GMT
If it pisses bayernoatcake off then fuck it, give them £25 million.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 19, 2019 19:29:21 GMT
If it pisses bayernoatcake off then fuck it, give them £25 million. It wouldn’t piss me off. He’s a good player. I think if we didn’t go up though and spent that sort of money we wouldn’t have a club to support in a year mind.
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Post by harrysburrow on Jun 19, 2019 19:38:14 GMT
If it pisses bayernoatcake off then fuck it, give them £25 million. It wouldn’t piss me off. He’s a good player. I think if we didn’t go up though and spent that sort of money we wouldn’t have a club to support in a year mind. I think that's fair. He is literally a guaranteed 20+ man, so if he failed here it would literally mean that Stoke are a Jonah when It comes to centre forwards. We would also have very little point in spending that kind of money ever again - until we returned to the Prem anyway (catch22). Also, he could even end up making Afobe look clinical in front of goal - imagine that? Still hope we land him though 😌
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 19:38:39 GMT
Never worth 20m in a million years. A goal every 2.3 games. If he gets us back to the Premier League would be worth every penny but as someone has said is unlikely would be £20 million flat That's the only possible plus point to it. Wimmer wasn't worth wimmer. Jese's loan. Mclean Afobe Vokes All far too expensive for what they are 20m for Gayle is next-level stupid.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jun 19, 2019 19:54:23 GMT
Gayle would be a shrewd signing at 15-20 mil. Given the absolute shite we have signed for big money, spending over the odds on Gayle wouldn’t be a huge risk given his background in this league.
The criminal amounts for the well publicised wimmer, bera, imbula etc are far far worse than paying the aforementioned figure for Gayle. Personally we paid far too much for Vokes, not that he’s a bad player and clearly needs a strike partner.
Edit: in fact if you have ambitions of getting out of this league then you need to build a team around players of Gayles ilk
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jun 19, 2019 20:05:21 GMT
It'd probably be something like £10m flat fee, plus add-ons e.g. +£3m if he scores over 20 Championship goals +£3m if we get promoted this season +£3m if he plays a certain number of games in the first Premier League season.
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Post by ravey123 on Jun 19, 2019 20:28:31 GMT
It'd probably be something like £10m flat fee, plus add-ons e.g. +£3m if he scores over 20 Championship goals +£3m if we get promoted this season +£3m if he plays a certain number of games in the first Premier League season. We wont go for Gayle unless its less than £10m. At his age his value can only go down no matter how well he does
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jun 19, 2019 20:39:47 GMT
If it pisses bayernoatcake off then fuck it, give them £25 million. It wouldn’t piss me off. He’s a good player. I think if we didn’t go up though and spent that sort of money we wouldn’t have a club to support in a year mind. Why?
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Post by thevoid on Jun 19, 2019 20:58:37 GMT
More chance of signing Dorothy Gale.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jun 19, 2019 21:57:11 GMT
If it pisses bayernoatcake off then fuck it, give them £25 million. It wouldn’t piss me off. He’s a good player. I think if we didn’t go up though and spent that sort of money we wouldn’t have a club to support in a year mind. Come on, you really think that if we dont go up after spending big money we would go bust?There are a lot more clubs in a worse place than us financially who are still surviving.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 19, 2019 21:59:15 GMT
It wouldn’t piss me off. He’s a good player. I think if we didn’t go up though and spent that sort of money we wouldn’t have a club to support in a year mind. Come on, you really think that if we dont go up after spending big money we would go bust?There are a lot more clubs in a worse place than us financially who are still surviving. I think we'd be in the shit for sure.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jun 19, 2019 22:04:33 GMT
Come on, you really think that if we dont go up after spending big money we would go bust?There are a lot more clubs in a worse place than us financially who are still surviving. I think we'd be in the shit for sure. Care to elaborate?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 19, 2019 22:09:18 GMT
I think we'd be in the shit for sure. Care to elaborate? Don't need to really? The parachute payments dry up, you've just spent 20m on a player, your wage bill will be about 50m going into a season where your turnover will plummet and you've still got Badou, Imbula, Berahino and Wimmer on the books. Of course it depends on the outs and if we can actually get decent fees but even then spending 20m on one player would be daft. Not that we would and not that anyone would on Gayle.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jun 19, 2019 22:14:25 GMT
Ffp is about losses, can they not be offset by the fact that gayle would be included in the accounts as an asset to balance against the outlay?
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 19, 2019 22:30:12 GMT
Ffp is about losses, can they not be offset by the fact that gayle would be included in the accounts as an asset to balance against the outlay? No his wages come into ffp, his signing on fees, bonuses, transfer fee spread into the losses over the length of his contract, a five year contract 20% of this comes in each year, a 4 year contract its 25% a year etc etc
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Post by stokeykez on Jun 19, 2019 22:30:46 GMT
Throw Jack in for the swap
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Post by kelw on Jun 19, 2019 22:34:21 GMT
A 3 year contact with Dwight Gayle would see the club go bust.
Right
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jun 19, 2019 22:44:44 GMT
Don't need to really? The parachute payments dry up, you've just spent 20m on a player, your wage bill will be about 50m going into a season where your turnover will plummet and you've still got Badou, Imbula, Berahino and Wimmer on the books. Of course it depends on the outs and if we can actually get decent fees but even then spending 20m on one player would be daft. Not that we would and not that anyone would on Gayle. Villa did ok after losing the prem money.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 19, 2019 22:46:39 GMT
Don't need to really? The parachute payments dry up, you've just spent 20m on a player, your wage bill will be about 50m going into a season where your turnover will plummet and you've still got Badou, Imbula, Berahino and Wimmer on the books. Of course it depends on the outs and if we can actually get decent fees but even then spending 20m on one player would be daft. Not that we would and not that anyone would on Gayle. Villa did ok after losing the prem money. I mean they didn't but ok.
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Post by tony1234 on Jun 19, 2019 22:48:30 GMT
20m worries me as we move into FFP territory. Would be great to get a nippy/pacy striker, but I'd prefer a mid table slog than being Bolton in 12 months. Giving Newcastle 5m, N'Diaye and Pieters for him feels less risky.
Also just can't see him coming here over a handful of PL clubs and Fulham.
He doesn't guarantee goals to the same level he got at WBA either - as it makes all the difference to be playing next to other really good forwards - which he had with Rodriguez, Barnes (for 1/2 season) and Phillips at WBA - typically in a front 4 with width. Powell, Gregory and Vokes - while a decent Championship set - would be a good notch below WBA's group.
If we do have 20m we could spend, would probably plump instead for a creative + goal scoring CM and the LWB, who collectively provide a much better supply to Powell, Gregory, Vokes (and Afobe). And they'd both be 25 or under.
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Jun 19, 2019 22:48:32 GMT
Simply won't happen.
Pie in the sky I'm afraid
SGS
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Post by CillaBlacksPissFlaps on Jun 19, 2019 22:58:56 GMT
More chance of signing Dorothy Gale. Really?
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Post by miltonstokienew on Jun 19, 2019 23:12:19 GMT
More chance of signing Dorothy Gale. Really? Do you know any different ?
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Post by bertiestan on Jun 20, 2019 0:33:49 GMT
Do you know any different ? I think the really comment was just aimed at your bizarre post mate...just out of curiosity what makes you think we've got no chance of signing Dwight Gayle?
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