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Post by FullerMagic on May 26, 2019 19:54:48 GMT
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on May 26, 2019 20:00:36 GMT
Wish I'd never asked, but thanks!
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Post by LL Cool Dave on May 26, 2019 20:05:28 GMT
If thats accurate, then the 24 UKIP MEP's will have simply changed to the Brexit Party. Think they've overestimated the amount of Tory votes tbh.
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Post by claytonscrubs on May 26, 2019 20:09:24 GMT
If true, what fantastic news 👍
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Post by felonious on May 26, 2019 20:11:42 GMT
If you don’t vote it’s hypocritical to moan at who wins. These EU elections always have a low turnout. Could be massive for brexit party as a lot of brexit voters saw voting for farage as a shot across the bows to Parliament The problem is people voting and being ignored and therefore having no faith in the democratic process.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 20:12:28 GMT
If true, what fantastic news 👍 Apart from the overall results, it's great to see Adonis bites the dust if that prediction is accurate !
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Post by salopstick on May 26, 2019 20:14:18 GMT
If you don’t vote it’s hypocritical to moan at who wins. These EU elections always have a low turnout. Could be massive for brexit party as a lot of brexit voters saw voting for farage as a shot across the bows to Parliament The problem is people voting and being ignored and therefore having no faith in the democratic process. Very true More so than any other election voter apathy has set in. People are thinking why should we bother. Do t bother means your voice gets lost
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 26, 2019 20:15:03 GMT
So the two parties with a definitive stance on Brexit have done well. Fair enough. I think the Liberal Democrats voters have turned out more than the disgusted Brexiteers, or the Brexit Party would have battered everyone.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 26, 2019 20:16:45 GMT
If you don’t vote it’s hypocritical to moan at who wins. These EU elections always have a low turnout. Could be massive for brexit party as a lot of brexit voters saw voting for farage as a shot across the bows to Parliament The problem is people voting and being ignored and therefore having no faith in the democratic process. Hence the low turnout. Can you blame them? 3 years of being told you don't count has to have an effect.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 26, 2019 20:17:26 GMT
If you don’t vote it’s hypocritical to moan at who wins. These EU elections always have a low turnout. Could be massive for brexit party as a lot of brexit voters saw voting for farage as a shot across the bows to Parliament I think that low turnout ( for all EU elections) shows the utter farce of the experiment. It expects us to give up more and more Sovereignty to it , spends our money, sets out our policies, its parliament has precedence.... and yet our people have little interest or connection. The EU elections are nothing but a sham in terms of policy debate, just a yardstick of current " support" for the idea....a costly farce in itself
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Post by questionable on May 26, 2019 20:21:00 GMT
The quicker the shit bag of the Conservative Party get the message and get us out of the shit bag that is the EU the better.
Surely they’ll get the message now
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 20:24:37 GMT
Not very surprising, is that exactly the same number gained by the Brexit Party as have been lost by UKIP?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 20:25:10 GMT
The problem is people voting and being ignored and therefore having no faith in the democratic process. Hence the low turnout. Can you blame them? 3 years of being told you don't count has to have an effect. This. On both sides!
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Post by musik on May 26, 2019 20:26:58 GMT
Now I can answer correctly how many swedes who would support Swexit.
In 2014 75% wanted us to stay in EU
Today In 2019 90% want us to stay in EU
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Latest results from Europe, in Total:
The greatest winners are
Green Left Parties Green Liberal Parties
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Post by lordb on May 26, 2019 20:28:15 GMT
Now I can answer correctly how many swedes who would support Swexit. In 2014 75% wanted us to stay in EU Today In 2019 90% want us to stay in EU * Latest results from Europe, in Total: The greatest winners are Green Left Parties Green Liberal Parties 90%!
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Post by musik on May 26, 2019 20:29:41 GMT
Now I can answer correctly how many swedes who would support Swexit. In 2014 75% wanted us to stay in EU Today In 2019 90% want us to stay in EU * Latest results from Europe, in Total: The greatest winners are Green Left Parties Green Liberal Parties 90%! ... it could even be 93-94%, accurate figures at midnight.
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Post by felonious on May 26, 2019 20:31:02 GMT
Why can’t people just accept it was put to the people and respect the result, it’s not hard. The amount of conversations I’ve had with people moaning about the governments policies and how hard done to they are but then told they don’t bother to vote as what’s the point baffles me... Then there’s the younger so called educated generation that reckon by voting to leave we’re destroying their future, really. As above it’s been voted on so let’s all just get on with it and if there’s any ill feeling afterwards take it out if the fat greedy politicians and their parties and force change as we’ve actually voted them in and simply accepted them doing whatever they want without any consequences The argument that the referendum result should be accepted is a strong one. However to argue that the people who voted for Brexit have no responsibility in the negative future we will get as a result of Brexit is disengenous at best. Perhaps the people like me who voted in back in 1975 should bear some responsibility for the ERM debacle, the ceding of supremacy of law to a foreign body, the ever increasing burden of contributions with the sole aim of funding poorer European countries to compete against us, the list is endless however at the time I thought it was just a trade association and not the Western embodiment of the Soviet block.
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Post by auntiegeorge on May 26, 2019 20:33:04 GMT
Hence the low turnout. Can you blame them? 3 years of being told you don't count has to have an effect. This. On both sides! I totally agree with all of that. Everyone is so weary of this whole shitshow I don't for one minute blame anybody for not wanting to participate. Personally, it has the opposite effect - it makes me even more determined to vote against the crippled and corrupt political class. I'm slightly disappointed that forecast is only suggesting 24 seats for the Brexit Party. I think they have underestimated the massive drop off in support for the Tories and Labour. I think the Brexit Party will end up with around 30 seats.
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Post by felonious on May 26, 2019 20:35:43 GMT
Not very surprising, is that exactly the same number gained by the Brexit Party as have been lost by UKIP? UKIP got 26% last time out and was an established party. This time around it will take this momentum into the next general election.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 26, 2019 20:36:41 GMT
The problem is people voting and being ignored and therefore having no faith in the democratic process. Very true More so than any other election voter apathy has set in. People are thinking why should we bother. Do t bother means your voice gets lost Yes, I still voted, despite the fuckers disregarding my first one. I understand the temptation to give up, and I have nearly succumbed myself, but fuck 'em!
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 26, 2019 20:37:42 GMT
I totally agree with all of that. Everyone is so weary of this whole shitshow I don't for one minute blame anybody for not wanting to participate. Personally, it has the opposite effect - it makes me even more determined to vote against the crippled and corrupt political class. I'm slightly disappointed that forecast is only suggesting 24 seats for the Brexit Party. I think they have underestimated the massive drop off in support for the Tories and Labour. I think the Brexit Party will end up with around 30 seats. Sky will be all over it being a bad day for the Brexit Party!
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 20:38:08 GMT
I totally agree with all of that. Everyone is so weary of this whole shitshow I don't for one minute blame anybody for not wanting to participate. Personally, it has the opposite effect - it makes me even more determined to vote against the crippled and corrupt political class. I'm slightly disappointed that forecast is only suggesting 24 seats for the Brexit Party. I think they have underestimated the massive drop off in support for the Tories and Labour. I think the Brexit Party will end up with around 30 seats. Yep. Those who want to remain feel that the Government isn't listening and is taking us into oblivion, and those who want to leave feel exactly the same. Half the country have polar opposite beliefs to the other half, with no nuance at all between the two sides. Something has to give soon. The bonus, however, is that there is a huge popularity in the belief that big corporations are horrendous, so at least we may have something to bring people together.
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Post by Clayton Wood on May 26, 2019 20:38:36 GMT
... it could even be 93-94%, accurate figures at midnight. How can 6-10% vote leave when you said there was no leave party to vote for?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 20:39:01 GMT
Not very surprising, is that exactly the same number gained by the Brexit Party as have been lost by UKIP? UKIP got 26% last time out and was an established party. This time around it will take this momentum into the next general election. I can't see a GE anywhere near the horizon. It would destroy the Tories.
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Post by musik on May 26, 2019 20:40:03 GMT
Interesting stats, demographics,from the EU election night tv here:
When you look at the young people around Europe and how they vote, the green parties will have like 65-70% of the mandates in the EU parliament within 8-12 years, ceteris paribus, in a likely prediction. Parents often transfer opinions to their children.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 20:42:43 GMT
Interesting stats, demographics,from the EU election night tv here: When you look at the young people around Europe and how they vote, the green parties will have like 65-70% of the mandates in the EU parliament within 8-12 years, ceteris paribus, in a likely prediction. Parents often transfer opinions to their children. As a genuine question, is that not a usual thing? Then in 8-12 years, a good portion of those young people shift right for some reason? I hope not, this time.
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Post by desman2 on May 26, 2019 20:43:05 GMT
Interesting stats, demographics,from the EU election night tv here: When you look at the young people around Europe and how they vote, the green parties will have like 65-70% of the mandates in the EU parliament within 8-12 years, ceteris paribus, in a likely prediction. Parents often transfer opinions to their children. If it still exists
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Post by LL Cool Dave on May 26, 2019 20:48:28 GMT
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Post by musik on May 26, 2019 20:48:51 GMT
... it could even be 93-94%, accurate figures at midnight. How can 6-10% vote leave when you said there was no leave party to vote for? Reasonable question! But tonight we have voted among the parties to represent us in the EU, not if we want Swexit or not. When they presented the figures 90% against Swexit (possibly even higher), it was one of many many questions interviewers always ask people outside after they have voted. It's tradition here. Another question they have been given around the country was: what are the most important issues? Result: 1 Climate 2 Migration 3 Crime
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Post by LL Cool Dave on May 26, 2019 20:52:17 GMT
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