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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 22, 2019 16:29:07 GMT
Butland 7, not bad but a couple of dodgy moments. Edwards 8, MOM. Bath 7.5, good again. Shawcross 7, solid. Williams 7, good goal but lost his man for their second. Etebo 6.5, decent but nothing more. Allen 7, solid. Clucas 7, a better showing today. McClean 5, a lot of commitment but too little skills. Verlinden 7, a lot of good skills on the ball but also some bad decision making. Afobe 3, a really awful player! Seems unable to do anything right at the moment!
Ince 7, lively when coming on. Collins, too little time on the pich.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 16:49:24 GMT
I’m usually one of the fans who has Joe Allen’s back but today he was absolutely appalling. I can’t rate him any higher than 5. His passing was atrocious.
Edwards MOM by a mile.
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Post by mickey2693 on Apr 22, 2019 16:52:05 GMT
McClean 5 behave
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 16:52:51 GMT
First half: Butland 7, Decent - one really good save Edwards 7, Solid Bath 7, Solid Shawcross 7, Solid. Williams 6, sNever seemed calm. Etebo 2, Headless chicken, playing hospital passes everywhere, little or no awareness of the opposition players. Not a holding mid at all. Allen 6, Overrun and exposed - not helped by etebo one bit. Clucas 1, Absolute pansy get him in the sea. McClean 5, had a go, no end product. Verlinden 5, Why was he playing in the middle? Afobe 3, Very poor, poor movement, Isolated. Second half:Butland 7 Couple of good saves - havent seen a replay yet but I feel he could've done better on that second Edwards 9.6 Got beaten once or twice but everything you could ask from him. Bath 7, needs to be a bit more composed. Shawcross 7, Did the basics well Williams 7, good goal but lost his man for their second. Etebo 5, Woke up a bit, still very poor. Allen 7, Much better - put himself about everywhere. Clucas 6, Much better second half - still whinging on the floor too much for my liking. McClean 6, High energy better deliveries. Verlinden 7, Looked better being out wide properly, good ball in for the 1st Afobe 7 Managed to hold the ball up really well, good to see him actually running at players, thats more his game and exactly how we should be using him, He was screaming from the ball from etebo and thats exactly where I want him.(Ball never came... ) Ince 5.9 Looked decent Collins, 5.5 Not the best game to be thrown into
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Apr 22, 2019 16:53:20 GMT
I’m usually one of the fans who has Joe Allen’s back but today he was absolutely appalling. I can’t rate him any higher than 5. His passing was atrocious. Edwards MOM by a mile. Opinions Clyde, I thought Joe had a decent game, showed for the ball and harried and tackled well all game
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 16:56:37 GMT
I’m usually one of the fans who has Joe Allen’s back but today he was absolutely appalling. I can’t rate him any higher than 5. His passing was atrocious. Edwards MOM by a mile. Opinions Clyde, I thought Joe had a decent game, showed for the ball and harried and tackled well all game I thought he harassed them well mate, just thought he was very sloppy. I thought Maclean was worth more than the 5 by the OP though bud
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Post by chiswickpotter on Apr 22, 2019 16:58:42 GMT
I’m usually one of the fans who has Joe Allen’s back but today he was absolutely appalling. I can’t rate him any higher than 5. His passing was atrocious. Edwards MOM by a mile. Poor clearance for the first goal and not clear why he was there rather thna where he should be stopping the cross. Great game but that's a big mistake
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Post by maine on Apr 22, 2019 17:01:23 GMT
Butland 7, Edwards 8.5 Bath 7.5 Shawcross 7, solid. Williams 7.5 Etebo 7.5 Allen 8 Clucas 5 McClean 6 Verlinden 7 Afobe 3, a really awful player! Seems unable to do anything right at the moment!4 Ince 5.5 Collins 7
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 22, 2019 17:05:47 GMT
I’m usually one of the fans who has Joe Allen’s back but today he was absolutely appalling. I can’t rate him any higher than 5. His passing was atrocious. Edwards MOM by a mile. Opinions Clyde, I thought Joe had a decent game, showed for the ball and harried and tackled well all game I thought he was constantly out of position making it easy for them to just go straight through the midfield.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 22, 2019 17:06:38 GMT
Wouldn't fault any of them second half - that was as good as we've played all season. Magnificent.
Thought McClean's energy was outstanding, and Williams was absolutely superb .
Clucas never stopped running - and even Afobe looked like a player of sorts!
2nd half ratings
Butland 7 Edwards 8 Batth 7. Shawcross 7 Williams 8 Etebo 6. Allen 7 Clucas 7 McClean 7 Verlinden 7 Afobe 6
Ince 7
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 22, 2019 17:08:39 GMT
Butland 6 Edwards 8 Bath 7 Shawcross 7 Williams 7 Etebo 7.5 Allen 7 Clucas 7 McClean 6 Verlinden 7 improved in the second half, helped more by facing goal rather than having it behind him, gave him the chance to get at them a little. Afobe 6 had an Influence in the second half, held it up well made a coupe of good runs. Ince 6 Collins 7
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 22, 2019 17:08:44 GMT
Afobe was really good today I thought, as someone who’d have cast him into Hades on the strength of his usual output. He worked hard, his movement was good, he won aerial duels and even held the ball up at times. Dovetailed nicely with Verlinden.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Apr 22, 2019 17:15:15 GMT
Afobe was really good today I thought, as someone who’d have cast him into Hades on the strength of his usual output. He worked hard, his movement was good, he won aerial duels and even held the ball up at times. Dovetailed nicely with Verlinden. Usually agree with most of your points but I thought he was poor, thought his touch was awful, didn’t lay it off particularly well and didn’t seem committed in the tackle. First half especially if we’re gonna hoof it why not have Volkes as the focal point.
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 22, 2019 17:18:06 GMT
Afobe was really good today I thought, as someone who’d have cast him into Hades on the strength of his usual output. He worked hard, his movement was good, he won aerial duels and even held the ball up at times. Dovetailed nicely with Verlinden. I really can't understand how people can think Afobe played well today! Every time he got to the ball first it ended up with absolutely nothing. When he got into a good position he fluffed it, when getting on the ball first his passes went to the oppositon or he ran with the ball till he lost it. I really can't understand why we keep playing him at all, GET RID!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 22, 2019 17:18:30 GMT
Afobe was really good today I thought, as someone who’d have cast him into Hades on the strength of his usual output. He worked hard, his movement was good, he won aerial duels and even held the ball up at times. Dovetailed nicely with Verlinden. Usually agree with most of your points but I thought he was poor, thought his touch was awful, didn’t lay it off particularly well and didn’t seem committed in the tackle. First half especially if we’re gonna hoof it why not have Volkes as the focal point. I thought his commitment couldn’t be faulted today, he seemed up for it and chased everything and his movement was intelligent.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 22, 2019 17:20:24 GMT
Afobe was really good today I thought, as someone who’d have cast him into Hades on the strength of his usual output. He worked hard, his movement was good, he won aerial duels and even held the ball up at times. Dovetailed nicely with Verlinden. I really can't understand how people can think Afobe played well today! Every time he got to the ball first it ended up with absolutely nothing. When he got into a good position he fluffed it, when getting on the ball first his passes went to the oppositon or he ran with the ball till he lost it. I really can't understand why we keep playing him at all, GET RID! I’m no fan of his but I’m surprised he’s getting stick for today. Compared to his usual lackadaisical self he was on it. Was a useful outlet for us when under pressure too.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Apr 22, 2019 17:20:38 GMT
Butland 6 Edwards 8 Bath 7 Shawcross 7 Williams 8 Etebo 7 Allen 6 Clucas 7 McClean 7 Verlinden 7 Afobe 7
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 22, 2019 17:20:51 GMT
Usually agree with most of your points but I thought he was poor, thought his touch was awful, didn’t lay it off particularly well and didn’t seem committed in the tackle. First half especially if we’re gonna hoof it why not have Volkes as the focal point. I thought his commitment couldn’t be faulted today, he seemed up for it and chased everything and his movement was intelligent. I really doubt he is able to make any intelligent movement at all, awful player.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Apr 22, 2019 17:22:58 GMT
Usually agree with most of your points but I thought he was poor, thought his touch was awful, didn’t lay it off particularly well and didn’t seem committed in the tackle. First half especially if we’re gonna hoof it why not have Volkes as the focal point. I thought his commitment couldn’t be faulted today, he seemed up for it and chased everything and his movement was intelligent. Fair enough, through the sun glasses I was wearing he didn’t do enough for me, couldn’t get past the defenders and was too easily pushed off the ball. My shades don’t have prescription lens though 🤣 I also had Willams as MoM
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 22, 2019 17:23:41 GMT
I thought his commitment couldn’t be faulted today, he seemed up for it and chased everything and his movement was intelligent. I really doubt he is able to make any intelligent movement at all, awful player. I mean, it was intelligent today I thought. He dragged defenders away and made angles for passes. You can not rate a player generally but still say when you think he’s had a good game.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 22, 2019 17:24:16 GMT
I thought his commitment couldn’t be faulted today, he seemed up for it and chased everything and his movement was intelligent. Fair enough, through the sun glasses I was wearing he didn’t do enough for me, couldn’t get past the defenders and was too easily pushed off the ball. My shades don’t have prescription lens though 🤣 I also had Willams as MoM Yeah, Williams was MotM for me too.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 22, 2019 17:28:27 GMT
Fair enough, through the sun glasses I was wearing he didn’t do enough for me, couldn’t get past the defenders and was too easily pushed off the ball. My shades don’t have prescription lens though 🤣 I also had Willams as MoM Yeah, Williams was MotM for me too. Really?!? I thought he had a decent game but the second goal let him down should have been his all day long.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 17:28:44 GMT
Butland 5
Batth 7 Shawcross 7 Williams 7
Edwards 9 Allen 5 Etebo 6 Clucas 7 McClean 6
Verlinden 7 Afobe 6
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 17:31:59 GMT
I thought his commitment couldn’t be faulted today, he seemed up for it and chased everything and his movement was intelligent. I really doubt he is able to make any intelligent movement at all, awful player. I lost count how many times Afobe made intelligent runs, asking for the ball to be played through to him on the deck only for the midfield to take a different option. No wonder he gets frustrated and at times looks ineffective. Overall today thought he did OK.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 22, 2019 17:32:01 GMT
Yeah, Williams was MotM for me too. Really?!? I thought he had a decent game but the second goal let him down should have been his all day long. I thought Pukki’s movement was brilliant for their second, seemed to materialise from thin air. Williams was really good bringing the ball forward I thought, and made some important interventions as well.
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 22, 2019 17:33:20 GMT
I really doubt he is able to make any intelligent movement at all, awful player. I mean, it was intelligent today I thought. He dragged defenders away and made angles for passes. You can not rate a player generally but still say when you think he’s had a good game. I can agree he looked a bit more interested today, but still I'm not impressed by anything he did on or off the ball. This is a player I really hope is sold in the summer.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 22, 2019 17:35:41 GMT
I'd sell him in the summer if we possibly could, but I really couldn't fault his application today. He really tried, and I don't think he was bad at all.
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Post by camstoke10 on Apr 22, 2019 17:37:07 GMT
I really can't understand how people can think Afobe played well today! Every time he got to the ball first it ended up with absolutely nothing. When he got into a good position he fluffed it, when getting on the ball first his passes went to the oppositon or he ran with the ball till he lost it. I really can't understand why we keep playing him at all, GET RID! I’m no fan of his but I’m surprised he’s getting stick for today. Compared to his usual lackadaisical self he was on it. Was a useful outlet for us when under pressure too. he scores goals, the last time he got a decent ball played towards him was against forest and he scored, he scores goals he just doesn’t get given the ball to him enough in good positions
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 22, 2019 17:38:39 GMT
I’m no fan of his but I’m surprised he’s getting stick for today. Compared to his usual lackadaisical self he was on it. Was a useful outlet for us when under pressure too. he scores goals, the last time he got a decent ball played towards him was against forest and he scored, he scores goals he just doesn’t get given the ball to him enough in good positions He’s been crap this season overall and doesn’t get given the ball because he doesn’t get into positions or make the runs. Today though I thought he did do those things and really put in a shift.
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Post by numpty40 on Apr 22, 2019 17:39:53 GMT
Someone earlier gave Clucas a 1, I personally thought he pushed Edwards close for MOM!!
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