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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 7:03:17 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Apr 14, 2019 7:03:17 GMT
Should be easy to get rid then! This guy will double that tally when we're creating chances imo. Sort the service out, it isn't the strikers. I was only on about how nobody puts crosses in for vokes to attack the other day, as if by magic he gets one to attack today by Williams of all people and surprise surprise he scores a goal. They need opportunities to score, it's not rocket science That won't improve his first touch though!
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Post by shrewspotter on Apr 14, 2019 7:57:50 GMT
This guy will double that tally when we're creating chances imo. Sort the service out, it isn't the strikers. I was only on about how nobody puts crosses in for vokes to attack the other day, as if by magic he gets one to attack today by Williams of all people and surprise surprise he scores a goal. They need opportunities to score, it's not rocket science That won't improve his first touch though! Afobe is useless, £12 million pound spunked away. When you look at other strikers in this league, many that cost nowhere near the amount he cost then he should be embarrassed by his tally. I do get the lack of service statement but his hold up play is shit too. That said he isn't the only big money let down, you can add Clucus, McClean and Woods to the list
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 8:27:18 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Apr 14, 2019 8:27:18 GMT
This guy will double that tally when we're creating chances imo. Sort the service out, it isn't the strikers. I was only on about how nobody puts crosses in for vokes to attack the other day, as if by magic he gets one to attack today by Williams of all people and surprise surprise he scores a goal. They need opportunities to score, it's not rocket science That won't improve his first touch though! Strikers score goals though mate, if a strikers first touch was more important than their strike rate, bojan would be playing there, wouldn't he?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 14, 2019 8:33:47 GMT
That won't improve his first touch though! Strikers score goals though mate, if a strikers first touch was more important than their strike rate, bojan would be playing there, wouldn't he? 1) Strikers have to do more than score goals. 2) A good first touch helps a striker score goals.
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 9:57:02 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Apr 14, 2019 9:57:02 GMT
That won't improve his first touch though! Strikers score goals though mate, if a strikers first touch was more important than their strike rate, bojan would be playing there, wouldn't he? Unfortunately he is too weak to play in that position, that is the problem with, Bojan, to find a place for him where he fits in. Afobe doesn't make enough good runs and his first touch is really terrible. Yoy have to contribute a bit yourself as well and not rely 100% on others to make you a decent player.
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 14, 2019 10:01:49 GMT
The biggest disappointment in a season full of disappointment is Afobe. Why do players who look great elsewhere turn out to be crap for us?
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 10:04:51 GMT
Post by Pugsley on Apr 14, 2019 10:04:51 GMT
The biggest disappointment in a season full of disappointment is Afobe. Why do players who look great elsewhere turn out to be crap for us? I think the point is he hasn't looked great anywhere!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 14, 2019 10:24:53 GMT
What a steaming pile of shit that lad is.
He went to control a ball with his right foot, missed it, and it hit his left shin and bounced to their midfielder.
He is just one player in a long list of complete dross.
Still, it's all bojans fault eh nathan?
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 11:22:18 GMT
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Apr 14, 2019 11:22:18 GMT
Serious question it’s Afobe injured or does he always run like that ?
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 11:35:24 GMT
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Post by Fred Merger on Apr 14, 2019 11:35:24 GMT
The thing is if he moves in the summer, you just know he'll start scoring again! Our coaching just seems to drain the goodness out of any player we sign.
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 11:51:03 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Apr 14, 2019 11:51:03 GMT
Strikers score goals though mate, if a strikers first touch was more important than their strike rate, bojan would be playing there, wouldn't he? 1) Strikers have to do more than score goals. 2) A good first touch helps a striker score goals. If he's scored 8 in an uncreative team mate he's worth 15 in a promotion chasing team that creates chance. If he was playing for Leeds , Norwich or sheff utd he'd be on 15+. As we are aiming to do just that we will need to create so I suspect we will have to start creating chances a plenty. Watching the game yesterday with a Rotherham commentator. Interesting to listen about us through their eyes, one particular quote when Benik come on... " well, it doesnt get any easier does it, Benik afobe is coming on, a proven goalscorer"
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 14, 2019 11:54:47 GMT
1) Strikers have to do more than score goals. 2) A good first touch helps a striker score goals. If he's scored 8 in an uncreative team mate he's worth 15 in a promotion chasing team that creates chance. If he was playing for Leeds , Norwich or sheff utd he'd be on 15+. As we are aiming to do just that we will need to create so I suspect we will have to start creating chances a plenty. Watching the game yesterday with a Rotherham commentator. Interesting to listen about us through their eyes, one particular quote when Benik come on... " well, it doesnt get any easier does it, Benik afobe is coming on, a proven goalscorer" Who gives a fuck what the Rotherham commentator said, he hasn't watched us every week has he? And Afobe's performance after coming on was utterly wretched. He wouldn't get into a promotion chasing team. All three managers of the clubs you mention demand hard work and impressive movement from their forward players, they don't carry passengers.
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 12:04:02 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Apr 14, 2019 12:04:02 GMT
If he's scored 8 in an uncreative team mate he's worth 15 in a promotion chasing team that creates chance. If he was playing for Leeds , Norwich or sheff utd he'd be on 15+. As we are aiming to do just that we will need to create so I suspect we will have to start creating chances a plenty. Watching the game yesterday with a Rotherham commentator. Interesting to listen about us through their eyes, one particular quote when Benik come on... " well, it doesnt get any easier does it, Benik afobe is coming on, a proven goalscorer" Who gives a fuck what the Rotherham commentator said, he hasn't watched us every week has he? And Afobe's performance after coming on was utterly wretched. He wouldn't get into a promotion chasing team. All three managers of the clubs you mention demand hard work and impressive movement from their forward players, they don't carry passengers. He's a proven goalscorer, 'proven'. It's what is behind them that's the problem, we don't create, it's that simple.
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Post by LGH87 on Apr 14, 2019 12:07:36 GMT
His goal scoring record is a myth, he’s reached double figures TWICE in his career. That is NOT a proven goal scorer.
Look at his stats, the only real good goalscoring spell he had was in league 1 when he scored 10 in 22.
In the championship he is an 8-10 goal a season striker on average.
Which is exactly what he’s achieved this season.
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 12:11:09 GMT
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Post by wearepremierleague on Apr 14, 2019 12:11:09 GMT
He, like 99% of the squad. Is a bit wank
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 12:15:40 GMT
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Post by kelw on Apr 14, 2019 12:15:40 GMT
The biggest disappointment in a season full of disappointment is Afobe. Why do players who look great elsewhere turn out to be crap for us? Never looked great at Bournemouth for me.
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 12:19:45 GMT
Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 14, 2019 12:19:45 GMT
Who gives a fuck what the Rotherham commentator said, he hasn't watched us every week has he? And Afobe's performance after coming on was utterly wretched. He wouldn't get into a promotion chasing team. All three managers of the clubs you mention demand hard work and impressive movement from their forward players, they don't carry passengers. He's a proven goalscorer, 'proven'. It's what is behind them that's the problem, we don't create, it's that simple. Keep saying that over and over again if you want but anyone actually watching his lazy, technically inadequate performances will know he's as much a part of the problem as them. For a bloke who hates Bojan you seem suddenly to be placing more value on reputations than actual performances.
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 12:22:01 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 14, 2019 12:22:01 GMT
I could start to see, when fully fit Vokes may bring to the table but Afobe simply no. That said their centre forward, Smith was it caused our centre halves countless problems and cost a fraction of what both ours did.
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 12:31:47 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Apr 14, 2019 12:31:47 GMT
He's a proven goalscorer, 'proven'. It's what is behind them that's the problem, we don't create, it's that simple. Keep saying that over and over again if you want but anyone actually watching his lazy, technically inadequate performances will know he's as much a part of the problem as them. For a bloke who hates Bojan you seem suddenly to be placing more value on reputations than actual performances. Thing is mate, bojan is supposed to create the chances we don't create. Afobe is not getting the chances he is supposed to score, reason being we don't create any. A few years back, all we as supporters banged on about was " we need a goalscorer" " we need somebody that can stick the ball in net" .. Why? Because we were creating chances,getting forward at times in numbers, we had full backs putting good crosses in, wide men creating and doing the same, it was obvious we needed a goalscorer, somebody who could put the ball in the net, and now.. It's just as obvious right now we need that creativity to make us see wether we have a goalscorer.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 14, 2019 12:38:14 GMT
No idea what his qualities are.
Not quick. Appalling in the air; barely even attempts to even challenge defenders. Not got a semblance of a trick in his locker. Terrible first touch - his second is invariably a tackle. Doesn't make any decent runs. As weak as a day-old kitten.
All we've really seen are 2 really good finishes against Forest and Brentford.
Have we signed the brother of the £12m kiddie? Maybe we've got his evil half-brother, Humphrey Afobe?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 14, 2019 12:50:30 GMT
Keep saying that over and over again if you want but anyone actually watching his lazy, technically inadequate performances will know he's as much a part of the problem as them. For a bloke who hates Bojan you seem suddenly to be placing more value on reputations than actual performances. Thing is mate, bojan is supposed to create the chances we don't create. Afobe is not getting the chances he is supposed to score, reason being we don't create any. A few years back, all we as supporters banged on about was " we need a goalscorer" " we need somebody that can stick the ball in net" .. Why? Because we were creating chances,getting forward at times in numbers, we had full backs putting good crosses in, wide men creating and doing the same, it was obvious we needed a goalscorer, somebody who could put the ball in the net, and now.. It's just as obvious right now we need that creativity to make us see wether we have a goalscorer. We need creativity but the striker has to be part of that. He isn’t just a goal hanger, he has to make the right runs and look interested, he has to link the play or get on the end of things. Which of those things does Afobe do?
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 12:50:57 GMT
Post by stokie1954 on Apr 14, 2019 12:50:57 GMT
Pukki, free transfer and we end up with another overpriced clown. Says it all really!.
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 13:46:52 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Apr 14, 2019 13:46:52 GMT
Thing is mate, bojan is supposed to create the chances we don't create. Afobe is not getting the chances he is supposed to score, reason being we don't create any. A few years back, all we as supporters banged on about was " we need a goalscorer" " we need somebody that can stick the ball in net" .. Why? Because we were creating chances,getting forward at times in numbers, we had full backs putting good crosses in, wide men creating and doing the same, it was obvious we needed a goalscorer, somebody who could put the ball in the net, and now.. It's just as obvious right now we need that creativity to make us see wether we have a goalscorer. We need creativity but the striker has to be part of that. He isn’t just a goal hanger, he has to make the right runs and look interested, he has to link the play or get on the end of things. Which of those things does Afobe do? To be fair to the stfikers there isn't a great deal to get on the end of, we don't sustain pressure, send good balls in, get forward in numbers, thread nice balls through, get crosses in. We don't do anything that benefits a forward to score goals
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 14, 2019 13:52:06 GMT
We need creativity but the striker has to be part of that. He isn’t just a goal hanger, he has to make the right runs and look interested, he has to link the play or get on the end of things. Which of those things does Afobe do? To be fair to the stfikers there isn't a great deal to get on the end of, we don't sustain pressure, send good balls in, get forward in numbers, thread nice balls through, get crosses in. We don't do anything that benefits a forward to score goals Again, the strikers have their part to play in that. They’re not supposed to just hang around waiting for the ball to come to them, they’re supposed to make angles and space with their movement, pull defenders out of position. Afobe isn’t doing any of that. When we do get forward he’s nowhere.
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 13:55:46 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 13:55:46 GMT
He would rather fall over and try for a foul than run for the ball..fucking bone idle!!! That really pissed me off yesterday (well, as many other things did!). Rotherham was running us ragged and Afobe and a fair few others just kept throwing themselves about trying to get a free kick. The ref, rightly, wasn't having any of it. The only thing it achieved was keeping us on the back foot.
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 15:13:17 GMT
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Post by thehoof on Apr 14, 2019 15:13:17 GMT
1) Strikers have to do more than score goals. 2) A good first touch helps a striker score goals. If he's scored 8 in an uncreative team mate he's worth 15 in a promotion chasing team that creates chance. If he was playing for Leeds , Norwich or sheff utd he'd be on 15+. As we are aiming to do just that we will need to create so I suspect we will have to start creating chances a plenty. Watching the game yesterday with a Rotherham commentator. Interesting to listen about us through their eyes, one particular quote when Benik come on... " well, it doesnt get any easier does it, Benik afobe is coming on, a proven goalscorer" If he’s so good why did Nuno Santes let him leave within a week of signing him? I’d hazard a guess that his lack of footballing brain and control had a part to play? He’s had 1 good year in the Championship 22 goals in 46 games for Wolves in 2016. Prior to that he’d played 68 championship games and scored 14 goals. Even his 6 goals in 16 appearances for Wolves last year was playing in a team light years ahead of everyone else in the league- he may have had a 100 % conversion record or it may have been 1 goal in every 5 chances; none of us watched Wolves enough last year to say he is a clinical finisher?
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 15:28:45 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Apr 14, 2019 15:28:45 GMT
If he's scored 8 in an uncreative team mate he's worth 15 in a promotion chasing team that creates chance. If he was playing for Leeds , Norwich or sheff utd he'd be on 15+. As we are aiming to do just that we will need to create so I suspect we will have to start creating chances a plenty. Watching the game yesterday with a Rotherham commentator. Interesting to listen about us through their eyes, one particular quote when Benik come on... " well, it doesnt get any easier does it, Benik afobe is coming on, a proven goalscorer" If he’s so good why did Nuno Santes let him leave within a week of signing him? I’d hazard a guess that his lack of footballing brain and control had a part to play? He’s had 1 good year in the Championship 22 goals in 46 games for Wolves in 2016. Prior to that he’d played 68 championship games and scored 14 goals. Even his 6 goals in 16 appearances for Wolves last year was playing in a team light years ahead of everyone else in the league- he may have had a 100 % conversion record or it may have been 1 goal in every 5 chances; none of us watched Wolves enough last year to say he is a clinical finisher? If the guy was missing chances I'd agree, he isn't though, because our strikers (Not only Afobe) havnt been given decent service for a couple of years now. If the guy was ballooning opportunities I could see where you're coming from but he's not is he, because he never gets the "opportunities " to do so, neither do the others
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 15:37:49 GMT
Post by nott1 on Apr 14, 2019 15:37:49 GMT
He looks like he's been to Salisbury so lethargic is he. Better email the Russian Ambassador to see if he was on the hit list I think.
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 15:40:12 GMT
Post by nott1 on Apr 14, 2019 15:40:12 GMT
If he’s so good why did Nuno Santes let him leave within a week of signing him? I’d hazard a guess that his lack of footballing brain and control had a part to play? He’s had 1 good year in the Championship 22 goals in 46 games for Wolves in 2016. Prior to that he’d played 68 championship games and scored 14 goals. Even his 6 goals in 16 appearances for Wolves last year was playing in a team light years ahead of everyone else in the league- he may have had a 100 % conversion record or it may have been 1 goal in every 5 chances; none of us watched Wolves enough last year to say he is a clinical finisher? If the guy was missing chances I'd agree, he isn't though, because our strikers (Not only Afobe) havnt been given decent service for a couple of years now. If the guy was ballooning opportunities I could see where you're coming from but he's not is he, because he never gets the "opportunities " to do so, neither do the others You also have to be ready and in the correct positions to get opportunities. He never is.
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Afobe!
Apr 14, 2019 15:58:23 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Apr 14, 2019 15:58:23 GMT
If the guy was missing chances I'd agree, he isn't though, because our strikers (Not only Afobe) havnt been given decent service for a couple of years now. If the guy was ballooning opportunities I could see where you're coming from but he's not is he, because he never gets the "opportunities " to do so, neither do the others You also have to be ready and in the correct positions to get opportunities. He never is. Ready for the opportunities tgat don't come? When we've got left footed wide men on the left, right footed wide men on the right, decent full backs tgat are eager to get forward and a centre mid that gets forward to support, a player that can spot a pass and make it and afobe still isn't scoring I'll agree, until then (For me) the finger should be pointed at team mates. The team is shit with zero creativity and people are pointing at the strikers, really? We've got a player that can find the net, if you don't as a team provide for him he won't find the net. It doesn't get much simpler than that, he's got 10 players behind him, what are they doing to get the best from him?
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