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Apr 23, 2019 19:53:34 GMT
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Post by stokeykez on Apr 23, 2019 19:53:34 GMT
Struggled first half against Hernandez but certainly made up for it the minute stoke started to get on the ball and use him as an outlet. We need to have the same on the left now, tymon will not be good enough and bruno looks a shoe in, get the money out for that one
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 23, 2019 21:31:47 GMT
Norwich's full backs and wingers are supposed to be top notch, aren't they? He totally dominated our right flank, and it was telling that we were all at sea over that side when he went off.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 24, 2019 3:08:59 GMT
Noticed alot yesterday, particularly in the first half when Norwich were shooting at the boothen (where I was sat) whenever they attacked down Edward's side it was Batth who would go out and square up to the attacker and Edward's would drop in centrally to fill the gap, I don't know if this was in acknowledgement of Edward's defensive frailties or part of a deeper tactical decision made by the manager or just something that kept happening on spur of the moment though. Overall a great performance from the lad, hopefully the injury isn't serious, more please :-) Agree totally plus Allen coming over to protect. Edwards for me should be Right side of midfield or Wing back with 3 centre half's. Great strike good crosses tackling lacks a fair bit and defensive positional sense. He would seem to fit the profile for a Jones full-back in the diamond system perfectly though. Young and energetic, gets up and down, great delivery. Admittedly I can’t work out how a back four with only one DM and full-backs who are basically attacking players offers anywhere near enough protection defensively, but well, hopefully we’ll see next year.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Apr 24, 2019 9:31:53 GMT
Agree totally plus Allen coming over to protect. Edwards for me should be Right side of midfield or Wing back with 3 centre half's. Great strike good crosses tackling lacks a fair bit and defensive positional sense. He would seem to fit the profile for a Jones full-back in the diamond system perfectly though. Young and energetic, gets up and down, great delivery. Admittedly I can’t work out how a back four with only one DM and full-backs who are basically attacking players offers anywhere near enough protection defensively, but well, hopefully we’ll see next year. I think the high tempo,high pressing game NJ wants to instigate is more about hassling the opponents into mistakes much higher up the pitch and much nearer to their own goal,so they never really have the opportunity to get at us,as it were,as opposed to the traditional sitting deep defensive type displays we're accustomed to and would necessitate the traditional types of players you highlight we'd likely be lacking From what I've seen of the division it could bear fruit against a lot of teams- they're not good enough to cope with that sort pf close harrying/pressing,but come up against a side who are technically adroit ball players with the ability to create a bit of time/space for themselves and we could be on the end of a few dismantlings. But I suppose that's what Jones means by risk reward football?
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Post by tqstokie on Apr 24, 2019 9:50:50 GMT
We need to have composure and intent with the high tempo. We need a pass and move into space mentality. Not passing and standing still.
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 24, 2019 9:51:02 GMT
As I understand the diamond only one full back goes forward at a time and needs to be energetic and fit enough to get back quickly. In the meantime the centre half on his side moves over to cover with the DM dropping in to the hole. This is why the DM needs to be fairly tall and why it needs a lot of work on tactics before players can adapt to the formation.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 24, 2019 15:55:23 GMT
Struggled first half against Hernandez but certainly made up for it the minute stoke started to get on the ball and use him as an outlet. We need to have the same on the left now, tymon will not be good enough and bruno looks a shoe in, get the money out for that one Tymon still has time to develop he's only 19, a bit unfair to write him off so soon.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 24, 2019 15:56:53 GMT
Struggled first half against Hernandez but certainly made up for it the minute stoke started to get on the ball and use him as an outlet. We need to have the same on the left now, tymon will not be good enough and bruno looks a shoe in, get the money out for that one Tymon still has time to develop he's only 19, a bit unfair to write him off so soon. He's still ace for me on FM so I'm keeping the faith
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Apr 24, 2019 16:08:13 GMT
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Post by mattador78 on Apr 24, 2019 16:08:13 GMT
Tymon still has time to develop he's only 19, a bit unfair to write him off so soon. He's still ace for me on FM so I'm keeping the faith he’s wank 😘
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 24, 2019 16:13:53 GMT
He's still ace for me on FM so I'm keeping the faith he’s wank 😘 Much more difficult for me to argue against you on that one !
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Post by bojanwonder on Apr 24, 2019 17:59:30 GMT
Hear, hear and bloody hear! Well said. Let's hope we are reflecting about our manager in the same way twelve months from now. Oh wait.... some have already completely written him off too! Do people understand the difference between criticising someone ( when they probably do deserve criticism) and “writing someone off”. It seems to me if you come on here and criticise someone’s performance then you get automatically lumped into the category of those who have written someone off, either that or you have got an “agenda”, one of the other most overused cliches on here. I'm all for constructive criticism, be it of young Tom, our manager or anyone else in the team. But more and more people seem to think it's okay to completely slate them with very little justification and often in a very personal way too. And I feel that once some have made up their minds that's it! There used to be far more reasoned debate on here where you could appreciate everyone's different point of view, but these days it's all a bit bitter and twisted if you dare to sit on the fence for too long.
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Apr 24, 2019 22:09:21 GMT
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Post by Championship Potter on Apr 24, 2019 22:09:21 GMT
He would seem to fit the profile for a Jones full-back in the diamond system perfectly though. Young and energetic, gets up and down, great delivery. Admittedly I can’t work out how a back four with only one DM and full-backs who are basically attacking players offers anywhere near enough protection defensively, but well, hopefully we’ll see next year. I think the high tempo,high pressing game NJ wants to instigate is more about hassling the opponents into mistakes much higher up the pitch and much nearer to their own goal,so they never really have the opportunity to get at us,as it were,as opposed to the traditional sitting deep defensive type displays we're accustomed to and would necessitate the traditional types of players you highlight we'd likely be lacking From what I've seen of the division it could bear fruit against a lot of teams- they're not good enough to cope with that sort pf close harrying/pressing,but come up against a side who are technically adroit ball players with the ability to create a bit of time/space for themselves and we could be on the end of a few dismantlings. But I suppose that's what Jones means by risk reward football? Definitely a fair point but Liverpool, Tottenham, Dortmund play a similar style of football and able to dismantle teams at the top level doing so, which gives me some hope. Really does need the right footballers though - I fear finding technically and physically able footballers at this level is going to be a big ask given the Premier League clubs will be snapping up anyone with the right attributes before we even get near them. Feel we are going to need to unearth a few gems from abroad to stand a chance. Does help that we have 4 or 5 youngsters that should have the physical attributes. I’m all for it though as it will be a thing of beauty if NJ can get the right players in.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 1, 2019 19:14:38 GMT
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May 1, 2019 19:42:04 GMT
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Post by numberounominion on May 1, 2019 19:42:04 GMT
I think the high tempo,high pressing game NJ wants to instigate is more about hassling the opponents into mistakes much higher up the pitch and much nearer to their own goal,so they never really have the opportunity to get at us,as it were,as opposed to the traditional sitting deep defensive type displays we're accustomed to and would necessitate the traditional types of players you highlight we'd likely be lacking From what I've seen of the division it could bear fruit against a lot of teams- they're not good enough to cope with that sort pf close harrying/pressing,but come up against a side who are technically adroit ball players with the ability to create a bit of time/space for themselves and we could be on the end of a few dismantlings. But I suppose that's what Jones means by risk reward football? Definitely a fair point but Liverpool, Tottenham, Dortmund play a similar style of football and able to dismantle teams at the top level doing so, which gives me some hope. Really does need the right footballers though - I fear finding technically and physically able footballers at this level is going to be a big ask given the Premier League clubs will be snapping up anyone with the right attributes before we even get near them. Feel we are going to need to unearth a few gems from abroad to stand a chance. Does help that we have 4 or 5 youngsters that should have the physical attributes. I’m all for it though as it will be a thing of beauty if NJ can get the right players in. If a team are Liverpool style really good at the high press, the only way round it, is to go long Which is what man City did at home to Liverpool in January They were launching it out of defence and won with 49 percent possession I doubt they have had so little possession at the etihad for years, but pep dropped his principles for one game only, went long and they won 2v1 Good on him for knowing when to ditch your principles, very astute.
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Post by Billy the kid on May 1, 2019 19:49:45 GMT
Definitely a fair point but Liverpool, Tottenham, Dortmund play a similar style of football and able to dismantle teams at the top level doing so, which gives me some hope. Really does need the right footballers though - I fear finding technically and physically able footballers at this level is going to be a big ask given the Premier League clubs will be snapping up anyone with the right attributes before we even get near them. Feel we are going to need to unearth a few gems from abroad to stand a chance. Does help that we have 4 or 5 youngsters that should have the physical attributes. I’m all for it though as it will be a thing of beauty if NJ can get the right players in. If a team are Liverpool style really good at the high press, the only way round it, is to go long Which is what man City did at home to Liverpool in January They were launching it out of defence and won with 49 percent possession I doubt they have had so little possession at the etihad for years, but pep dropped his principles for one game only, went long and they won 2v1 Good on him for knowing when to ditch your principles, very astute. And to think just how important that result has turned out to be.
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