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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 13, 2019 12:58:09 GMT
Limping through the season, he signed half of the team these players needed to be signed to stop freefall. People are only just waking up to the condition the squad was in upon relegation.. promotion was always a 2 to 3 year plan for me, I said it many times. Complete Fantasy that that bunch of no hopers, crocks ,oap's & serial habitual losers were going to turn into promotion contenders in 1 season with the injection of some decent championship players. This was a 2 to 3 year job to put right that was 2 to 3 years in the making Strange reading your posts. You heavily backed Rowett. The fact is when he took over he inherited a squad that looked just one or two key signings away from having been competitive in the premier league. If we'd had a decent striker in the second half of last season we would have survived. Rowett had a huge budget, and has squandered nearly all of it, with a scatter gun approach to signing players that don't fit into any system. It is NOW, after Rowett's summer window, that we really are in a fucking mess. You backed him all the way. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 13, 2019 13:02:32 GMT
A couple of new signings and we’ll be rejuvinated. Stick with the back 4 from yesterday and were in trouble.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 13, 2019 13:03:00 GMT
these players needed to be signed to stop freefall. People are only just waking up to the condition the squad was in upon relegation.. promotion was always a 2 to 3 year plan for me, I said it many times. Complete Fantasy that that bunch of no hopers, crocks ,oap's & serial habitual losers were going to turn into promotion contenders in 1 season with the injection of some decent championship players. This was a 2 to 3 year job to put right that was 2 to 3 years in the making Strange reading your posts. You heavily backed Rowett. The fact is when he took over he inherited a squad that looked just one or two key signings away from having been competitive in the premier league. If we'd had a decent striker in the second half of last season we would have survived. Rowett had a huge budget, and has squandered nearly all of it, with a scatter gun approach to signing players that don't fit into any system. It is NOW, after Rowett's summer window, that we really are in a fucking mess. You backed him all the way. rubbish, it was a 2 year job?, who is to say after another summer the new signings wouldn't have complimented his early signings? You wanted instant success, it hasn't happened so the dummies were spat out and now we're left hoping a manager with no championship experience will play bojan and keep us up.. you couldn't make it up |
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Post by Dingdangdoo on Jan 13, 2019 13:05:12 GMT
We are 4-5 players short of where we need to be and should be to mount any serious contention, but the Gods would really need to be against us for us to go down from here
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Post by stokeson on Jan 13, 2019 13:08:24 GMT
We have a proven Div 1 manager so wed be ok if we did.
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Post by jontimmis on Jan 13, 2019 13:09:49 GMT
Well look at last six we are 21/24 in form guide table.
We are just a shambles. Plain and simple really.
No bounce back, while I am not criticising him, the test is how we addresses our massive shortfall in the defence.
I’ve just watched extended highlights of yesterday’s game, wow, Shawcross really needs to retire at this level, he’s just too slow his positioning is awful. Sorry Ryan it’s time to call it a day mate.
The lads we played against yesterday are below us and their midfield moved the ball so quickly, 1/2 touch and moving off players. I don’t care how good Nathan Jones is as a coach, he’s gonna need a pre season and 2/3 transfer windows.
Get ready for mid table championship mediocrity. Our club is officially in transition, it’s gonna take quite a long time in my opinion could be 5-10 years to start challenging. The wilderness!
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 13, 2019 13:27:27 GMT
Strange reading your posts. You heavily backed Rowett. The fact is when he took over he inherited a squad that looked just one or two key signings away from having been competitive in the premier league. If we'd had a decent striker in the second half of last season we would have survived. Rowett had a huge budget, and has squandered nearly all of it, with a scatter gun approach to signing players that don't fit into any system. It is NOW, after Rowett's summer window, that we really are in a fucking mess. You backed him all the way. rubbish, it was a 2 year job?, who is to say after another summer the new signings wouldn't have complimented his early signings? You wanted instant success, it hasn't happened so the dummies were spat out and now we're left hoping a manager with no championship experience will play bojan and keep us up.. you couldn't make it up Yes there should have been immediate success at this level. Rowetts signings have been disastrous |
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Post by stokeson on Jan 13, 2019 13:32:31 GMT
Rowetts ?
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Post by Goonie on Jan 13, 2019 13:55:01 GMT
No chance but will finish outside playoffs 2-4 places lower
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Post by shangamuzo on Jan 13, 2019 13:57:26 GMT
No chance but will finish outside playoffs 2-4 places lower Spot on. |
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Post by wrighter on Jan 13, 2019 14:00:09 GMT
Sure we will be ok, and at the end of the season, NJ needs to rip up this team [ like he did at Luton] and start the new season with HIS team !!
re Ryan, yes, sadly the time has come to step down, brilliant player, loyal as f*ck, but the time has come
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Post by meltonjohn on Jan 13, 2019 18:15:03 GMT
We won’t go down and NJ will use the remaining games to fully assess the situation. We will go up next season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 18:30:51 GMT
If the new manager doesn't click, then yes. At the end of the Rowett era, we were under the same risk. Performances were dropping. Next month is absolutely massive. No way we would have gone down under Rowett. I just hope bojan is this saviour that people were hounding Rowett for not using. That's where it started. Bojan hysteria, the bojan that has done fuck all for 3 years. Don’t talk shite. The Bojan issue was just one of a list of about 10 ‘black marks’ against Rowett. He could have probably solved 3 at once by just playing him, given that we’ve been plodding along with zero creativity for months. |
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Post by questionable on Jan 13, 2019 18:32:33 GMT
We can play open and closing down/pressing football all day long, IF we had the players, which we don’t.
We have to out score the opponents, IF we had the players, which we don’t.
Then there’s the small problem of defending with the slowest most disorganised bunch of crooks I’ve ever seen, so can we go down yes we certainly can.
Sure I read somewhere today that’s the first time Brentford have scored more than 2 goals in a game for some time, could of been a lot more.
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Jan 13, 2019 18:43:35 GMT
Not this season, If this shit doesn't get sorted soon I'm worried about next season.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 13, 2019 19:00:25 GMT
Can we go down.. yes its possible
Will we go down ..no chance
Yesterday was an experiment and a learning exercise, suspect Tuesday and next Saturday may be also.
We ought to be seeing a marked improvement after 4 games if the players are buying into the system. We do need strengthening in certain positions with young, fit and enthusiastic players if we are to make real progress.
Next 3 weeks with the transfer window and a stricter fitness and training regime will tell.
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 13, 2019 19:01:45 GMT
Promotion thru the playoffs
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 19:08:20 GMT
We can play open and closing down/pressing football all day long, IF we had the players, which we don’t. We have to out score the opponents, IF we had the players, which we don’t. Then there’s the small problem of defending with the slowest most disorganised bunch of crooks I’ve ever seen, so can we go down yes we certainly can. Sure I read somewhere today that’s the first time Brentford have scored more than 2 goals in a game for some time, could of been a lot more. 2 wins in 14 (or similar), before yesterday |
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Post by wilcopotter on Jan 13, 2019 19:15:55 GMT
With 35 points to date can’t see us going down, but nowhere near the play offs for me. I was at the game yesterday and believe me you had to be there to sense how bad we were. Even in the pre-match warm up we didn’t look focused. The coach was trying to put them through their paces and their response seemed tepid to me. Too many times yesterday I saw Brentford players winning the 50-50 balls against our “stars” because they wanted it more. There are a few need shipping out, not because they aren’t good enough, but because they’ve become used to losing or lost heart for the club and want a new start. Nathan Jones needs time, there’s no quick fix here. Even in the unlikely event we made the playoffs and went up, we’d be like clay pigeons in the Premiership with some of this shower.
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Post by jontimmis on Jan 13, 2019 19:38:35 GMT
Nothing is impossible. If you’d have said I’m august Hull would be flying and are pushing for the play offs, you’d be asking what have you been smoking?!
We have to win as many as we possibly can, but our form is 20/24 at moment in the league..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 19:58:17 GMT
Of course we can go down. The same as we can still go up. We probably won’t do either.
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Post by GoBoks on Jan 13, 2019 20:08:19 GMT
I've seen a few posts lately suggesting we need to avoid relegation this season, and while I've written the rest of this campaign off as a free hit for NJ, we're closer to the play-offs (8 pts) than the bottom three (12). Surely it would take a tailspin of ridiculous proportions and a miraculous sequence of results by Rotherham, Bolton and/or Reading to put us in any trouble? The answer to the thread title question is absolutely yes. But.... that would be the same answer if the question was "Can we still be promoted this season?" |
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Post by pottermouth on Jan 13, 2019 22:00:42 GMT
I've seen a few posts lately suggesting we need to avoid relegation this season, and while I've written the rest of this campaign off as a free hit for NJ, we're closer to the play-offs (8 pts) than the bottom three (12). Surely it would take a tailspin of ridiculous proportions and a miraculous sequence of results by Rotherham, Bolton and/or Reading to put us in any trouble? It’s far from impossible. This team is capable of anything. |
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 13, 2019 22:04:14 GMT
Absolutely not.
The manager has promised us a side we can be proud of.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 13, 2019 22:14:56 GMT
Absolutely not. The manager has promised us a side we can be proud of. Fancy a manager trying to get his fans onside. I much prefer managers who bad mouth supporters and have their players calling fans cunts. That's the way to success.... |
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Post by mjg13x on Jan 13, 2019 22:26:48 GMT
Possibly. Is it likely? Not remotely.
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Post by tinofspam on Jan 13, 2019 22:38:29 GMT
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 13, 2019 22:40:00 GMT
Absolutely not. The manager has promised us a side we can be proud of. Fancy a manager trying to get his fans onside. I much prefer managers who bad mouth supporters and have their players calling fans cunts. That's the way to success.... He's giving us false hope then? Glad that ones been cleared up. |
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 13, 2019 22:42:41 GMT
Fancy a manager trying to get his fans onside. I much prefer managers who bad mouth supporters and have their players calling fans cunts. That's the way to success.... He's giving us false hope then? Glad that ones been cleared up. What would you like him to say? |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jan 13, 2019 22:42:59 GMT
50 points is the nominal total required to stay in a 24 team league.
Right now we have 35 points from 27 games played.
That’s 15 points short of the ‘magical’ total.
To reach 50 points we need say 3 wins and 3 draws.
In even the most extreme scenario can anyone even contemplate that that we’ll lose more than 13 of our remaining 19 fixtures?
Of course we won’t go down, but the sooner we reach 50 points the happier I’ll be, but of course it shouldn’t be like this should it?
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