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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 6, 2019 12:30:56 GMT
Weve outspent Spurs? Bang on the money? LOL Not sure I get that one Dave jut might be a whoosh but we have net spent more than spurs once the last ten years
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Post by mrred on Jan 6, 2019 14:14:44 GMT
It's one thing berating them on a message board though mate. I'm talking about songs about the useless fuckers down the ground, things they will hear with their own ears. But the players will hear them too and even if such chants would not be directed at them, right now they need our support, They're disgustingly paid athletes mate, a few chants to people they won't give a toss about won't make a spot of difference.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jan 6, 2019 14:48:05 GMT
When I’m hungry, thinking of some starving Ethiopians doesn’t make me any less hungry. No of course it doesn't (although I think drawing analogies between our desires as football supporters and human starvation is a tad insensitive). We are of course all "hungry" for our club to have success on the field, otherwise there is no point in supporting it, but IMHO that doesn't invalidate any of the points I made. It wasn’t so much about me being hungry for success. It seemed as if you were suggesting that we should be grateful because it could be much worse. Yes, it could be, but that doesn’t anywhere near excuse how our club has been managed these last two to three years and knowing some other fans have suffered more than us doesn’t make me feel any better.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 6, 2019 15:45:17 GMT
No of course it doesn't (although I think drawing analogies between our desires as football supporters and human starvation is a tad insensitive). We are of course all "hungry" for our club to have success on the field, otherwise there is no point in supporting it, but IMHO that doesn't invalidate any of the points I made. It wasn’t so much about me being hungry for success. It seemed as if you were suggesting that we should be grateful because it could be much worse. Yes, it could be, but that doesn’t anywhere near excuse how our club has been managed these last two to three years and knowing some other fans have suffered more than us doesn’t make me feel any better. I guess it's all about ambition. I'm not a fan of TS however Malcolm makes a good point about the free away travel and freezing of ticket prices. That said I'd sacrifice both for some decent transfer / manager decisions over the last 2-3 years. I think the problem is that TS is too involved in the footballing decisions. That should be left to the manager and those that are qualified so that we're all pulling together.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 6, 2019 16:17:07 GMT
It wasn’t so much about me being hungry for success. It seemed as if you were suggesting that we should be grateful because it could be much worse. Yes, it could be, but that doesn’t anywhere near excuse how our club has been managed these last two to three years and knowing some other fans have suffered more than us doesn’t make me feel any better. I guess it's all about ambition. I'm not a fan of TS however Malcolm makes a good point about the free away travel and freezing of ticket prices. That said I'd sacrifice both for some decent transfer / manager decisions over the last 2-3 years. I think the problem is that TS is too involved in the footballing decisions. That should be left to the manager and those that are qualified so that we're all pulling together. Isn't that courtesy of our owners rather than Scholes...in the same way that free beers, pies etc was a gift to Leicester fans by their chairman?
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Post by metalhead on Jan 6, 2019 17:18:01 GMT
They're here to stay. Doesn't Scholes have shares in the club making him essentially unsackable?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 7, 2019 20:41:37 GMT
They're here to stay. Doesn't Scholes have shares in the club making him essentially unsackable? If tweedle dumb and tweedle Dee are staying I'm happy for rowett to stay. #1outallout
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Post by metalhead on Jan 7, 2019 22:13:45 GMT
They're here to stay. Doesn't Scholes have shares in the club making him essentially unsackable? If tweedle dumb and tweedle Dee are staying I'm happy for rowett to stay. #1outallout I really hope I'm wrong, I honestly do.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jan 8, 2019 10:52:07 GMT
Percy article in the Telegraph saying that none of our last three managers have got on with Cartwright.
He needs to go.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 11:00:24 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 8, 2019 11:01:52 GMT
Absolutely staggering that the former Leek Town goalkeeper can be allowed to wield such a negative influence over the club for so long.
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Post by neddy on Jan 8, 2019 11:04:19 GMT
He’s got Etobo wrong for a start he’s been great?
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Post by metalhead on Jan 8, 2019 11:08:21 GMT
Percy article in the Telegraph saying that none of our last three managers have got on with Cartwright. He needs to go. I mean would you? Imagine your job, and then imagine your job whereby everything you do has to be run past an overweight turd who has achieved absolutely nothing in their career? Let's just play this out.... imagine Mark Hughes, the ex Man Utd, Barcelona and Bayern Munich striker having to run his ideas and suggestions past a man who's greatest achievement was being a bit-part player for Wrexham in the old Division 2 (League 1). As for Tony Scholes.... he has no footballing background at all as far as I'm aware. If rumours are true, Cartwright and Scholes slowly eroded the powers afforded to management after Tony left. Hughes was given around 2 seasons of complete control and then things changed. We're now getting through managers for fun. Can they all be wrong? Wrong choices perhaps by the board perhaps, but can they all be wrong about Cartwright?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 8, 2019 11:22:20 GMT
Percy article in the Telegraph saying that none of our last three managers have got on with Cartwright. He needs to go. I mean would you? Imagine your job, and then imagine your job whereby everything you do has to be run past an overweight turd who has achieved absolutely nothing in their career? Let's just play this out.... imagine Mark Hughes, the ex Man Utd, Barcelona and Bayern Munich striker having to run his ideas and suggestions past a man who's greatest achievement was being a bit-part player for Wrexham in the old Division 2 (League 1). As for Tony Scholes.... he has no footballing background at all as far as I'm aware. If rumours are true, Cartwright and Scholes slowly eroded the powers afforded to management after Tony left. Hughes was given around 2 seasons of complete control and then things changed. We're now getting through managers for fun. Can they all be wrong? Wrong choices perhaps by the board perhaps, but can they all be wrong about Cartwright? Given Hughes’ signings in his last few seasons, he certainly needed to run them past someone. Just a shame we got Coates Jr’s BFF rather than someone competent.
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Post by metalhead on Jan 8, 2019 11:24:20 GMT
I mean would you? Imagine your job, and then imagine your job whereby everything you do has to be run past an overweight turd who has achieved absolutely nothing in their career? Let's just play this out.... imagine Mark Hughes, the ex Man Utd, Barcelona and Bayern Munich striker having to run his ideas and suggestions past a man who's greatest achievement was being a bit-part player for Wrexham in the old Division 2 (League 1). As for Tony Scholes.... he has no footballing background at all as far as I'm aware. If rumours are true, Cartwright and Scholes slowly eroded the powers afforded to management after Tony left. Hughes was given around 2 seasons of complete control and then things changed. We're now getting through managers for fun. Can they all be wrong? Wrong choices perhaps by the board perhaps, but can they all be wrong about Cartwright? Given Hughes’ signings in his last few seasons, he certainly needed to run them past someone. Just a shame we got Coates Jr’s BFF rather than someone competent. The point of my post is questioning whether they were even Hughes' signings?
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Post by mattythestokie on Jan 8, 2019 11:24:55 GMT
So none of the 3 managers he’s worked with have enjoyed a good relationship with him? Pretty astounding really.
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Post by kevkj on Jan 8, 2019 11:25:39 GMT
This seasons over ,we need to get things ready and right for next season. Keep the pressure on Scholes and Cartwright now starting Saturday,i don't think we will shift Scholes but Cartwright can be ousted.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 11:28:16 GMT
No, fuck that, the new manager needs a decent atmosphere.
Protest in the summer.
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Post by werrington on Jan 8, 2019 11:28:30 GMT
Surely Scholes only sorts out the contract length,wages etc amongst the general financial restrictions any club is under?
Scouting players is surely not his remit
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Post by kjpt140v on Jan 8, 2019 11:30:05 GMT
WE'RE
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 8, 2019 11:30:16 GMT
Given Hughes’ signings in his last few seasons, he certainly needed to run them past someone. Just a shame we got Coates Jr’s BFF rather than someone competent. The point of my post is questioning whether they were even Hughes' signings? Most of them were. It’s a bit basic to just assume all the good signings were Hughes and all the bad were Carto. Most of Hughes’ signings fit one of his patterns, Rowett’s fit a different one.
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Post by kevkj on Jan 8, 2019 11:35:48 GMT
Scholes has been at the helm of a sinking ship for 3 seasons at least. Shite commercial record,shite team and player recruitment record and a relegation.
Hes doing really well.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 8, 2019 11:37:37 GMT
Let's try and get behind the players and new manager first eh?! I'm sick of turning up to a stadium devoid of any life until the air turns toxic.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 8, 2019 11:40:18 GMT
This seasons over ,we need to get things ready and right for next season. Keep the pressure on Scholes and Cartwright now starting Saturday,i don't think we will shift Scholes but Cartwright can be ousted. Don't be ridiculous. Now's the time to unite behind the new manager. If there were continued protests to try to oust somebody else, then you could see the Coates family putting us up for sale in the summer.
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Post by sheriffofrockridge on Jan 8, 2019 11:42:04 GMT
He’s got Etobo wrong for a start he’s been great? Think he's getting mixed up with Badou
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Post by marcofstoke on Jan 8, 2019 11:42:15 GMT
“Were” so we are not anymore?
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Post by chad on Jan 8, 2019 11:44:02 GMT
Scholes has been at the helm of a sinking ship for 3 seasons at least. Shite commercial record,shite team and player recruitment record and a relegation. Hes doing really well. Like I said on another thread. Season ticket prices frozen for ELEVEN years. Free away travel for every fan that wants it. That comes under commercial for me and I bet there isn’t another club in the League gives their supporters that I can understand wanting Cartwright out but I don’t see how Scholes can be blamed for the likes of Wimmer, Imbula etc
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jan 8, 2019 11:45:49 GMT
Scholes has been at the helm of a sinking ship for 3 seasons at least. Shite commercial record,shite team and player recruitment record and a relegation. Hes doing really well. There has been no bigger critic of Scholes and the management of the recruitment policy/process than myself. IMHO I think you’re wrong at this time. All our efforts should be aimed at supporting the new manager in his attempts to turn the current season around and be successful in the future.
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Post by kevkj on Jan 8, 2019 11:47:08 GMT
Of course the price rise keeps fans on side,hes CEO and wouldn't survive anywhere else in any field. Not that I think he will go anyway but will sacrifice Cartwright.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 8, 2019 11:52:54 GMT
Surely Scholes only sorts out the contract length,wages etc amongst the general financial restrictions any club is under? Scouting players is surely not his remit It doesn't matter, someone's got to get it they've already got their pitchforks out
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