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Post by Block 22 on Sept 26, 2018 21:38:29 GMT
To all of those calling for Rowetts head, what exactly did you expect?
Did you expect a team that has been losing and playing badly for 18months to all of a sudden be world beaters? There’s some kind of perception that we have got a great squad of players that should be turning anyone and everyone over, stop living in the past. Those players that you say should be out there and winning at a canter have been shit for 18 months and have picked up a nasty habit of losing games of football.
Anyone who thinks that Rowett was going to come in, with complete new back room staff and coaches and turn us into Real Madrid overnight, you are deluded, get off the Monkey Dust. Rowett took on an astronomical task, a squad that perfected the art of losing and conceding goals. He’s made some solid signings with the right minerals to compete in this league. For all intensive purposes, the players letting us down are players that were here before Rowett took over (mainly the back 4). We aren’t being freely carved open each week, the defensive shape is good, individual school boy errors are costing us games and points. How do you stop that? Yes, the manager is ultimately responsible but how exactly do you stop a player from making a stupid schoolboy errors like that. Especially when they don’t defend that way in training.
Expectation is one of the biggest problems. Too many fans are expecting us to stroll the league, to dominate in every game we play. On what basis? Somebody tell me. What evidence makes you think that should be the case?
Rowett will come good in time. Not overnight. If we have to go another season in The Championship before mounting a real push for promotion then so be it. We have no given right to be a premier league club and Rowett has a serious task to turn this around, one he should be given a fair shake to try and complete. Not fuck him off after 10 games.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Sept 26, 2018 21:40:05 GMT
Nobody is saying we should be like Real Madrid? We just don't want to keep getting turned over every week.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Sept 26, 2018 21:41:53 GMT
But the money's no good....Just get a grip of yourself.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 26, 2018 21:42:55 GMT
....and Another "get a grip" post from a happy clapper - put a feckin sock in it.......ffs
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Post by dutchstokie on Sept 26, 2018 21:43:38 GMT
The title of this thread should be Rowetts mantra for the game against Rotherham
For one game , just ONE, just give us something to shout about Stoke
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 26, 2018 21:45:35 GMT
....and to answer the original question - I expected exactly this from this rank amateur - further decline and borderline chaos ........
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 21:50:08 GMT
To all of those calling for Rowetts head, what exactly did you expect? Did you expect a team that has been losing and playing badly for 18months to all of a sudden be world beaters? There’s some kind of perception that we have got a great squad of players that should be turning anyone and everyone over, stop living in the past. Those players that you say should be out there and winning at a canter have been shit for 18 months and have picked up a nasty habit of losing games of football. Anyone who thinks that Rowett was going to come in, with complete new back room staff and coaches and turn us into Real Madrid overnight, you are deluded, get off the Monkey Dust. Rowett took on an astronomical task, a squad that perfected the art of losing and conceding goals. He’s made some solid signings with the right minerals to compete in this league. For all intensive purposes, the players letting us down are players that were here before Rowett took over (mainly the back 4). We aren’t being freely carved open each week, the defensive shape is good, individual school boy errors are costing us games and points. How do you stop that? Yes, the manager is ultimately responsible but how exactly do you stop a player from making a stupid schoolboy errors like that. Especially when they don’t defend that way in training. Expectation is one of the biggest problems. Too many fans are expecting us to stroll the league, to dominate in every game we play. On what basis? Somebody tell me. What evidence makes you think that should be the case? Rowett will come good in time. Not overnight. If we have to go another season in The Championship before mounting a real push for promotion then so be it. We have no given right to be a premier league club and Rowett has a serious task to turn this around, one he should be given a fair shake to try and complete. Not fuck him off after 10 games. Hang on a minute. The large majority didn't expect us to beat every one out of sight. Many thought we'd do well though. Quite rightly when Butland, Bauer and Allen stayed. Absolutely no one expected this shower of shit though. He's had all summer and spent the best part of 30 million quid and turned us into this. We are worse than under Hughes and Lambert. There is no excuse for that. To make us worse is one hell of an achievement, what makes you think it will get better.
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Post by generationex on Sept 26, 2018 21:55:06 GMT
And acted like a petulant school-boy and (maybe) burned his boats with the best defenders available to him until January.
The defence was shambolic again.
Where does he go from here?
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Post by Block 22 on Sept 26, 2018 21:56:23 GMT
It’s called being a realist and being rational, not being a happy clapper.
I have acknowledged that our start to the season has been unacceptably poor. That includes the performance of the manager. Does that mean we should sack the manager after 10 games? Does it fuck.
It’s time to acknowledge that those players that were once good are badly beaten, damaged goods that can’t be fixed overnight. We didn’t win at Sheffield Wednesday but it’s the best we’ve played for a long time, you’d probably have to go back 2 years since we last played that well and dominated a game to that degree. We are seeing glimpses of what is to come, nowhere near as consistently as it needs to be to sustain a promotion challenge but enough to appreciate what Rowett is trying to do.
It’s not pretty or enjoyable at the moment, it stinks, but 10 competitive games is not a fair shake in the slightest considering the crater that we have fallen into over the last 18 months. Throwing manager after manager at the job isn’t the right way to go.
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Post by The man from Utch on Sept 26, 2018 21:57:14 GMT
And acted like a petulant school-boy and (maybe) burned his boats with the best defenders available to him until January. The defence was shambolic again. Where does he go from here? Try going all out attack in the first half and hope for the best .
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Sept 26, 2018 21:57:40 GMT
"For all intensive purposes", excellent, has to go down with pre-Madonna, rubbing salt into the wombs and Jesus Hates Christ!
Nobody is saying we should be like Real Madrid.
People are pissed off that Lambert stopped us getting arse-raped up the rectum, only for us to resume haemorrhaging goals in a shitter division.
I would bet my bottom dollar that any reasonable Stoke fan would have been pleased with scrappy, pragmatic football that was organised and just got points on the board. Never mind this "rolling teams over", anyone with an ounce of common sense knew it would be a fight, but it's still not arrogance to have thought we'd be nearer the top end of the table.
The problems with the backroom staff have been done to death, we all know our shoddy, two-bob recruitment policies and that we're frankly a joke off the field.
However, Rowett has not shown one glimmer of a suggestion that he's anything other than shit. He's just more of the fucking same. We're a quarter of the way into the season, and: He doesn't know his best line up He doesn't know his best bench He doesn't know his best formation He doesn't know what style of football he wants He is tactically inept We still have no identity The game management is shocking The substitutions are mostly diabolical The players have no faith in him He's clearly feeling the pressure There is a large element of the support who are already fed up of him There's no indication that we're anywhere near a turning point.
Of course, the squad is pretty much an arrogant, mercenary, disinterested shitshow from top to bottom as well, but if he's failed to stick a rocket up their arses and get them at least doing any semblance of the basics in the back third and midfield then he's even worse than Lambert was.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 21:58:28 GMT
I expected a largely premier league squad with a £40m injection, managed by an up and coming, well respected championship manager who brought in his own backroom staff from Derby to win more games than he lost, to score goals and at the very, very least to be competitive and organised
I'm still waiting
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 26, 2018 21:58:36 GMT
To all of those calling for Rowetts head, what exactly did you expect? Did you expect a team that has been losing and playing badly for 18months to all of a sudden be world beaters? There’s some kind of perception that we have got a great squad of players that should be turning anyone and everyone over, stop living in the past. Those players that you say should be out there and winning at a canter have been shit for 18 months and have picked up a nasty habit of losing games of football. Anyone who thinks that Rowett was going to come in, with complete new back room staff and coaches and turn us into Real Madrid overnight, you are deluded, get off the Monkey Dust. Rowett took on an astronomical task, a squad that perfected the art of losing and conceding goals. He’s made some solid signings with the right minerals to compete in this league. For all intensive purposes, the players letting us down are players that were here before Rowett took over (mainly the back 4). We aren’t being freely carved open each week, the defensive shape is good, individual school boy errors are costing us games and points. How do you stop that? Yes, the manager is ultimately responsible but how exactly do you stop a player from making a stupid schoolboy errors like that. Especially when they don’t defend that way in training. Expectation is one of the biggest problems. Too many fans are expecting us to stroll the league, to dominate in every game we play. On what basis? Somebody tell me. What evidence makes you think that should be the case? Rowett will come good in time. Not overnight. If we have to go another season in The Championship before mounting a real push for promotion then so be it. We have no given right to be a premier league club and Rowett has a serious task to turn this around, one he should be given a fair shake to try and complete. Not fuck him off after 10 games. Call me Mr Picky, but might there be a middle ground between ‘expecting to walk the league’ and ‘expecting not to concede six goals at home to two promoted sides after spending £40m’?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 22:00:26 GMT
To all of those calling for Rowetts head, what exactly did you expect? Did you expect a team that has been losing and playing badly for 18months to all of a sudden be world beaters? There’s some kind of perception that we have got a great squad of players that should be turning anyone and everyone over, stop living in the past. Those players that you say should be out there and winning at a canter have been shit for 18 months and have picked up a nasty habit of losing games of football. Anyone who thinks that Rowett was going to come in, with complete new back room staff and coaches and turn us into Real Madrid overnight, you are deluded, get off the Monkey Dust. Rowett took on an astronomical task, a squad that perfected the art of losing and conceding goals. He’s made some solid signings with the right minerals to compete in this league. For all intensive purposes, the players letting us down are players that were here before Rowett took over (mainly the back 4). We aren’t being freely carved open each week, the defensive shape is good, individual school boy errors are costing us games and points. How do you stop that? Yes, the manager is ultimately responsible but how exactly do you stop a player from making a stupid schoolboy errors like that. Especially when they don’t defend that way in training. Expectation is one of the biggest problems. Too many fans are expecting us to stroll the league, to dominate in every game we play. On what basis? Somebody tell me. What evidence makes you think that should be the case? Rowett will come good in time. Not overnight. If we have to go another season in The Championship before mounting a real push for promotion then so be it. We have no given right to be a premier league club and Rowett has a serious task to turn this around, one he should be given a fair shake to try and complete. Not fuck him off after 10 games. I didn't expect to walk the division, but given our players I think most Stokies expected us to be in the mix. West Brom were playing for the past 18 months and hardly winning a game - but look at them. They've lost a few of their team, signed a few, and now look like theyre on target. Manager just doesn`t look like he can organize the team. No leadership on or off the pitch. Expectation - we expected us to be top 6 material. Given our players and signings we still should be. It takes a good manager to motivate, organize and lead those players and Rowett doesn`t look like he can do it.
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Post by generationex on Sept 26, 2018 22:02:13 GMT
And acted like a petulant school-boy and (maybe) burned his boats with the best defenders available to him until January. The defence was shambolic again. Where does he go from here? Try going all out attack in the first half and hope for the best . That’s the mad thing. It’s looks like we need to score four goals a game to get a win. Keeganesque without the strikers.
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Post by Block 22 on Sept 26, 2018 22:02:52 GMT
To all of those calling for Rowetts head, what exactly did you expect? Did you expect a team that has been losing and playing badly for 18months to all of a sudden be world beaters? There’s some kind of perception that we have got a great squad of players that should be turning anyone and everyone over, stop living in the past. Those players that you say should be out there and winning at a canter have been shit for 18 months and have picked up a nasty habit of losing games of football. Anyone who thinks that Rowett was going to come in, with complete new back room staff and coaches and turn us into Real Madrid overnight, you are deluded, get off the Monkey Dust. Rowett took on an astronomical task, a squad that perfected the art of losing and conceding goals. He’s made some solid signings with the right minerals to compete in this league. For all intensive purposes, the players letting us down are players that were here before Rowett took over (mainly the back 4). We aren’t being freely carved open each week, the defensive shape is good, individual school boy errors are costing us games and points. How do you stop that? Yes, the manager is ultimately responsible but how exactly do you stop a player from making a stupid schoolboy errors like that. Especially when they don’t defend that way in training. Expectation is one of the biggest problems. Too many fans are expecting us to stroll the league, to dominate in every game we play. On what basis? Somebody tell me. What evidence makes you think that should be the case? Rowett will come good in time. Not overnight. If we have to go another season in The Championship before mounting a real push for promotion then so be it. We have no given right to be a premier league club and Rowett has a serious task to turn this around, one he should be given a fair shake to try and complete. Not fuck him off after 10 games. Hang on a minute. The large majority didn't expect us to beat every one out of sight. Many thought we'd do well though. Quite rightly when Butland, Bauer and Allen stayed. Absolutely no one expected this shower of shit though. He's had all summer and spent the best part of 30 million quid and turned us into this. We are worse than under Hughes and Lambert. There is no excuse for that. To make us worse is one hell of an achievement, what makes you think it will get better. I didn’t expect us to get beaten like we have either but when the core personnel are the same as those that have been failing to perform week in week out for 18 months what did we really expect? Why would it be any different, especially in the short term? 10 games isn’t long enough to change an 18-24month habit at the click of your fingers. In fairness to Rowett the additions he has made signings wise have been without doubt our better players. He didn’t have the money or the option to go out there and do a complete rebuild. It’s the old guard like Shawcross and Allen that are letting us down. Allen has admitted himself he has been a shadow of his former-self and he is the only one to blame.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Sept 26, 2018 22:03:02 GMT
It’s called being a realist and being rational, not being a happy clapper. I have acknowledged that our start to the season has been unacceptably poor. That includes the performance of the manager. Does that mean we should sack the manager after 10 games? Does it fuck. It’s time to acknowledge that those players that were once good are badly beaten, damaged goods that can’t be fixed overnight. We didn’t win at Sheffield Wednesday but it’s the best we’ve played for a long time, you’d probably have to go back 2 years since we last played that well and dominated a game to that degree. We are seeing glimpses of what is to come, nowhere near as consistently as it needs to be to sustain a promotion challenge but enough to appreciate what Rowett is trying to do. It’s not pretty or enjoyable at the moment, it stinks, but 10 competitive games is not a fair shake in the slightest considering the crater that we have fallen into over the last 18 months. Throwing manager after manager at the job isn’t the right way to go. Ten games is nearly a quarter of the way through the season though, and is a hell of a long time in football. We can't afford to squander that time on a gamble that looks nowhere near likely to pay off. If it was just bad luck or whatever holding us back then fair enough, you could make a case for keeping him, but there has been absolutely nothing from him.
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Post by generationex on Sept 26, 2018 22:06:04 GMT
We’re the richest club in the league. At least make us hard to beat.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 22:06:33 GMT
"For all intensive purposes", excellent, has to go down with pre-Madonna, rubbing salt into the wombs and Jesus Hates Christ! Nobody is saying we should be like Real Madrid. People are pissed off that Lambert stopped us getting arse-raped up the rectum, only for us to resume haemorrhage goals in a shitter division. I would bet my bottom dollar that any reasonable Stoke fan would have been pleased with scrappy, pragmatic football that was organised and just got points on the board. Never mind this "rolling teams over", anyone with an ounce of common sense knew it would be a fight, but it's still not arrogance to have thought we'd be nearer the top end of the table. The problems with the backroom staff have been done to death, we all know our shoddy, two-bob recruitment policies and that we're frankly a joke off the field. However, Rowett has not shown one glimmer of a suggestion that he's anything other than shit. He's just more of the fucking same. We're a quarter of the way into the season, and: He doesn't know his best line up He doesn't know his best bench He doesn't know his best formation He doesn't know what style of football he wants He is tactically inept We still have no identity The game management is shocking The substitutions are mostly diabolical The players have no faith in him He's clearly feeling the pressure There is a large element of the support who are already fed up of him There's no indication that we're anywhere near a turning point. Of course, the squad is pretty much an arrogant, mercenary, disinterested shitshow from top to bottom as well, but if he's failed to stick a rocket up their arses and get them at least doing any semblance of the basics in the back third and midfield then he's even worse than Lambert was. Don't forget the classic, Damp Squid
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 22:06:48 GMT
It’s called being a realist and being rational, not being a happy clapper. I have acknowledged that our start to the season has been unacceptably poor. That includes the performance of the manager. Does that mean we should sack the manager after 10 games? Does it fuck. It’s time to acknowledge that those players that were once good are badly beaten, damaged goods that can’t be fixed overnight. We didn’t win at Sheffield Wednesday but it’s the best we’ve played for a long time, you’d probably have to go back 2 years since we last played that well and dominated a game to that degree. We are seeing glimpses of what is to come, nowhere near as consistently as it needs to be to sustain a promotion challenge but enough to appreciate what Rowett is trying to do. It’s not pretty or enjoyable at the moment, it stinks, but 10 competitive games is not a fair shake in the slightest considering the crater that we have fallen into over the last 18 months. Throwing manager after manager at the job isn’t the right way to go. You're joking aren't you. We chucked away a gifted two goal lead against a pretty average Championship side and that's the best we've played for 2 years? Lamberts 0-0 draw Liverpool was 1000 times better as was 75 mins at Arsenal. I didn't want Lambert to stay but as sure as I'll have a shit in the morning we'd be top 10 now if he had.
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Post by fca47 on Sept 26, 2018 22:08:14 GMT
Strangely West Brom and Swansea that were losing all the time last year seem to have got a grip.
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Post by Block 22 on Sept 26, 2018 22:09:15 GMT
"For all intensive purposes", excellent, has to go down with pre-Madonna, rubbing salt into the wombs and Jesus Hates Christ! Nobody is saying we should be like Real Madrid. People are pissed off that Lambert stopped us getting arse-raped up the rectum, only for us to resume haemorrhage goals in a shitter division. I would bet my bottom dollar that any reasonable Stoke fan would have been pleased with scrappy, pragmatic football that was organised and just got points on the board. Never mind this "rolling teams over", anyone with an ounce of common sense knew it would be a fight, but it's still not arrogance to have thought we'd be nearer the top end of the table. The problems with the backroom staff have been done to death, we all know our shoddy, two-bob recruitment policies and that we're frankly a joke off the field. However, Rowett has not shown one glimmer of a suggestion that he's anything other than shit. He's just more of the fucking same. We're a quarter of the way into the season, and: He doesn't know his best line up He doesn't know his best bench He doesn't know his best formation He doesn't know what style of football he wants He is tactically inept We still have no identity The game management is shocking The substitutions are mostly diabolical The players have no faith in him He's clearly feeling the pressure There is a large element of the support who are already fed up of him There's no indication that we're anywhere near a turning point. Of course, the squad is pretty much an arrogant, mercenary, disinterested shitshow from top to bottom as well, but if he's failed to stick a rocket up their arses and get them at least doing any semblance of the basics in the back third and midfield then he's even worse than Lambert was. If you honestly think that ‘sticking a rocket up their arses’ is a quick fix for 18months of being ridiculed and losing then I find it difficult to take any of what you say seriously. If management was that simple then every man and his dog could be a manager, anyone can shout.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 22:09:15 GMT
We expected better than we got.
Simple, end of
Rowett Out!!!
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Post by Block 22 on Sept 26, 2018 22:12:30 GMT
It’s called being a realist and being rational, not being a happy clapper. I have acknowledged that our start to the season has been unacceptably poor. That includes the performance of the manager. Does that mean we should sack the manager after 10 games? Does it fuck. It’s time to acknowledge that those players that were once good are badly beaten, damaged goods that can’t be fixed overnight. We didn’t win at Sheffield Wednesday but it’s the best we’ve played for a long time, you’d probably have to go back 2 years since we last played that well and dominated a game to that degree. We are seeing glimpses of what is to come, nowhere near as consistently as it needs to be to sustain a promotion challenge but enough to appreciate what Rowett is trying to do. It’s not pretty or enjoyable at the moment, it stinks, but 10 competitive games is not a fair shake in the slightest considering the crater that we have fallen into over the last 18 months. Throwing manager after manager at the job isn’t the right way to go. You're joking aren't you. We chucked away a gifted two goal lead against a pretty average Championship side and that's the best we've played for 2 years? Lamberts 0-0 draw Liverpool was 1000 times better as was 75 mins at Arsenal. I didn't want Lambert to stay but as sure as I'll have a shit in the morning we'd be top 10 now if he had. We’d have 9 points if Lambert was manager. The same as what we’ve got now. We’d have drawn every game 0-0.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 22:14:27 GMT
To all of those calling for Rowetts head, what exactly did you expect? Did you expect a team that has been losing and playing badly for 18months to all of a sudden be world beaters? There’s some kind of perception that we have got a great squad of players that should be turning anyone and everyone over, stop living in the past. Those players that you say should be out there and winning at a canter have been shit for 18 months and have picked up a nasty habit of losing games of football. Anyone who thinks that Rowett was going to come in, with complete new back room staff and coaches and turn us into Real Madrid overnight, you are deluded, get off the Monkey Dust. Rowett took on an astronomical task, a squad that perfected the art of losing and conceding goals. He’s made some solid signings with the right minerals to compete in this league. For all intensive purposes, the players letting us down are players that were here before Rowett took over (mainly the back 4). We aren’t being freely carved open each week, the defensive shape is good, individual school boy errors are costing us games and points. How do you stop that? Yes, the manager is ultimately responsible but how exactly do you stop a player from making a stupid schoolboy errors like that. Especially when they don’t defend that way in training. Expectation is one of the biggest problems. Too many fans are expecting us to stroll the league, to dominate in every game we play. On what basis? Somebody tell me. What evidence makes you think that should be the case? Rowett will come good in time. Not overnight. If we have to go another season in The Championship before mounting a real push for promotion then so be it. We have no given right to be a premier league club and Rowett has a serious task to turn this around, one he should be given a fair shake to try and complete. Not fuck him off after 10 games.
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Post by Block 22 on Sept 26, 2018 22:16:32 GMT
It’s called being a realist and being rational, not being a happy clapper. I have acknowledged that our start to the season has been unacceptably poor. That includes the performance of the manager. Does that mean we should sack the manager after 10 games? Does it fuck. It’s time to acknowledge that those players that were once good are badly beaten, damaged goods that can’t be fixed overnight. We didn’t win at Sheffield Wednesday but it’s the best we’ve played for a long time, you’d probably have to go back 2 years since we last played that well and dominated a game to that degree. We are seeing glimpses of what is to come, nowhere near as consistently as it needs to be to sustain a promotion challenge but enough to appreciate what Rowett is trying to do. It’s not pretty or enjoyable at the moment, it stinks, but 10 competitive games is not a fair shake in the slightest considering the crater that we have fallen into over the last 18 months. Throwing manager after manager at the job isn’t the right way to go. Ten games is nearly a quarter of the way through the season though, and is a hell of a long time in football. We can't afford to squander that time on a gamble that looks nowhere near likely to pay off. If it was just bad luck or whatever holding us back then fair enough, you could make a case for keeping him, but there has been absolutely nothing from him. If you think 10 games of football is a long time in football. Try getting beaten convincingly without a paddle for 18 months. Other than replacing those players 10 games is barely enough to work them out never mind to improve them.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Sept 26, 2018 22:17:24 GMT
"For all intensive purposes", excellent, has to go down with pre-Madonna, rubbing salt into the wombs and Jesus Hates Christ! Nobody is saying we should be like Real Madrid. People are pissed off that Lambert stopped us getting arse-raped up the rectum, only for us to resume haemorrhage goals in a shitter division. I would bet my bottom dollar that any reasonable Stoke fan would have been pleased with scrappy, pragmatic football that was organised and just got points on the board. Never mind this "rolling teams over", anyone with an ounce of common sense knew it would be a fight, but it's still not arrogance to have thought we'd be nearer the top end of the table. The problems with the backroom staff have been done to death, we all know our shoddy, two-bob recruitment policies and that we're frankly a joke off the field. However, Rowett has not shown one glimmer of a suggestion that he's anything other than shit. He's just more of the fucking same. We're a quarter of the way into the season, and: He doesn't know his best line up He doesn't know his best bench He doesn't know his best formation He doesn't know what style of football he wants He is tactically inept We still have no identity The game management is shocking The substitutions are mostly diabolical The players have no faith in him He's clearly feeling the pressure There is a large element of the support who are already fed up of him There's no indication that we're anywhere near a turning point. Of course, the squad is pretty much an arrogant, mercenary, disinterested shitshow from top to bottom as well, but if he's failed to stick a rocket up their arses and get them at least doing any semblance of the basics in the back third and midfield then he's even worse than Lambert was. If you honestly think that ‘sticking a rocket up their arses’ is a quick fix for 18months of being ridiculed and losing then I find it difficult to take any of what you say seriously. If management was that simple then every man and his dog could be a manager, anyone can shout. Purposeful reduction and misinterpretation of what I've said, or just an inability to understand? Lambert stopped us getting raped up the arse through discipline and organisation, which are the two absolute bare minimum requirements for being a manager. That is "rocket up the arse". It didn't turn us into winners, it wasn't a fix, in fact it was the only thing he ever did and it wasn't good enough, but at least it was something. Rowett has come in, had at least some semblance of a pre-season, has had a full window including spending £40m, and has not even done the bare-minimum layman stuff that Lambert somehow scraped his way into doing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 22:20:19 GMT
You're joking aren't you. We chucked away a gifted two goal lead against a pretty average Championship side and that's the best we've played for 2 years? Lamberts 0-0 draw Liverpool was 1000 times better as was 75 mins at Arsenal. I didn't want Lambert to stay but as sure as I'll have a shit in the morning we'd be top 10 now if he had. We’d have 9 points if Lambert was manager. The same as what we’ve got now. We’d have drawn every game 0-0. Utter bollocks and you know it
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Post by jontimmis on Sept 26, 2018 22:21:21 GMT
Maybe we just love to lose!! We’re so use to it now!
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Sept 26, 2018 22:22:51 GMT
Ten games is nearly a quarter of the way through the season though, and is a hell of a long time in football. We can't afford to squander that time on a gamble that looks nowhere near likely to pay off. If it was just bad luck or whatever holding us back then fair enough, you could make a case for keeping him, but there has been absolutely nothing from him. If you think 10 games of football is a long time in football. Try getting beaten convincingly without a paddle for 18 months. Other than replacing those players 10 games is barely enough to work them out never mind to improve them. Fucking hell it's like banging your head against a brick wall. In a quarter of a season, Lambert managed to get at least something out of a similar group of players. In the same time, despite a pre-season, a window, and £40m (albeit losing Shaqiri), Rowett has made us even worse than we were when we were relegated. If we didn't think Lambert was up to task on a similar number of games, then why on earth do you think Rowett will be?
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