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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 22, 2018 17:28:20 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/p06k4wgrRowett interview 35 minutes in Got to say, for once, Nige showed some fire in his interview with Rowett today. And with Rowett absolutely furious and pulling no punches, it was one of the better ones. "Our defensive actions are woeful. We've gifted them 4 chances, and they've scored 3 of them" "Ryan's caught 20 yards behind, and then he tries to step up which I don't understand. We've not worked on that once in training. You just drop in and defend if you're behind everyone and you deal with it. If you're 1 v 1 with Graham, you've got to deal with it" "I think we've all thought the Championship will be different. Well, it hasn't been and we're still making individual, stupid errors" "I have to change players, it's as simple as that" "Don't be surprised if you don't play next week" is what Rowett says he said to the whole team But who have we actually got to bring in defensively? Presumably Williams will come in (probably for Shawcross as he singled him out) - but who else? It won't be Bauer after his comments. Surely not Tymon. Or Souttar. So Williams and Edwards presumably?
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Post by Pricey on Sept 22, 2018 17:31:22 GMT
Johnson genuinely sounds pissed off doesn't he? Great stuff.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 22, 2018 17:32:02 GMT
Got to say, for once, Nige showed some fire in his interview with Rowett today. And with Rowett absolutey furious and pulling no punches, it was one of the better ones. www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/p06k4wgrRowett interview 35 minutes "Our defensive actions are woeful. We've gifted them 4 chances, and they've scored 3 of them" "Ryan's caught 20 yards behind, and then he tries to step up which I don't understand. We've not worked on that once in training. You just drop in and defend if you're behind everyone and you deal with it. If you're 1 v 1 with Graham, you've got to deal with it" "I think we've all thought the Championship will be different. Well, it hasn't been and we're still making individual, stupid errors" "I have to change players, it's as simple as that" "Don't be surprised if you don't play next week" is what Rowett says he said to the whole team But who have we actually got to bring in defensively? Presumably Williams will come in (probably for Shawcross as he singled him out) - but who else? It won't be Bauer after his comments. Surely not Tymon. Or Souttar. So Williams and Edwards presumably? Changes have to be made, obviously. Just as long as he doesn't go back to thinking it's a good idea to start with Fletcher. |
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Post by werrington on Sept 22, 2018 17:32:26 GMT
Got to say, for once, Nige showed some fire in his interview with Rowett today. And with Rowett absolutey furious and pulling no punches, it was one of the better ones. www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/p06k4wgrRowett interview 35 minutes "Our defensive actions are woeful. We've gifted them 4 chances, and they've scored 3 of them" "Ryan's caught 20 yards behind, and then he tries to step up which I don't understand. We've not worked on that once in training. You just drop in and defend if you're behind everyone and you deal with it. If you're 1 v 1 with Graham, you've got to deal with it" "I think we've all thought the Championship will be different. Well, it hasn't been and we're still making individual, stupid errors" "I have to change players, it's as simple as that" "Don't be surprised if you don't play next week" is what Rowett says he said to the whole team But who have we actually got to bring in defensively? Presumably Williams will come in (probably for Shawcross as he singled him out) - but who else? It won't be Bauer after his comments. Surely not Tymon. Or Souttar. So Williams and Edwards presumably? Why not Souttar? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 17:34:45 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/p06k4wgrRowett interview 35 minutes in Got to say, for once, Nige showed some fire in his interview with Rowett today. And with Rowett absolutely furious and pulling no punches, it was one of the better ones. "Our defensive actions are woeful. We've gifted them 4 chances, and they've scored 3 of them" "Ryan's caught 20 yards behind, and then he tries to step up which I don't understand. We've not worked on that once in training. You just drop in and defend if you're behind everyone and you deal with it. If you're 1 v 1 with Graham, you've got to deal with it" "I think we've all thought the Championship will be different. Well, it hasn't been and we're still making individual, stupid errors" "I have to change players, it's as simple as that" "Don't be surprised if you don't play next week" is what Rowett says he said to the whole team But who have we actually got to bring in defensively? Presumably Williams will come in (probably for Shawcross as he singled him out) - but who else? It won't be Bauer after his comments. Surely not Tymon. Or Souttar. So Williams and Edwards presumably? We don't have much scope for changing things around but Shawcross is costing us goals and has to be dropped. Whether Williams can improve things is up for debate but it has to happen. |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 22, 2018 17:34:49 GMT
Got to say, for once, Nige showed some fire in his interview with Rowett today. And with Rowett absolutey furious and pulling no punches, it was one of the better ones. www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/p06k4wgrRowett interview 35 minutes "Our defensive actions are woeful. We've gifted them 4 chances, and they've scored 3 of them" "Ryan's caught 20 yards behind, and then he tries to step up which I don't understand. We've not worked on that once in training. You just drop in and defend if you're behind everyone and you deal with it. If you're 1 v 1 with Graham, you've got to deal with it" "I think we've all thought the Championship will be different. Well, it hasn't been and we're still making individual, stupid errors" "I have to change players, it's as simple as that" "Don't be surprised if you don't play next week" is what Rowett says he said to the whole team But who have we actually got to bring in defensively? Presumably Williams will come in (probably for Shawcross as he singled him out) - but who else? It won't be Bauer after his comments. Surely not Tymon. Or Souttar. So Williams and Edwards presumably? Changes have to be made, obviously. Just as long as he doesn't go back to thinking it's a good idea to start with Fletcher. Fuck me, Fletcher, Adam and Crouch starting, Woods Etebo and Afobe dropped  |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 22, 2018 17:34:54 GMT
Got to say, for once, Nige showed some fire in his interview with Rowett today. And with Rowett absolutey furious and pulling no punches, it was one of the better ones. www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/p06k4wgrRowett interview 35 minutes "Our defensive actions are woeful. We've gifted them 4 chances, and they've scored 3 of them" "Ryan's caught 20 yards behind, and then he tries to step up which I don't understand. We've not worked on that once in training. You just drop in and defend if you're behind everyone and you deal with it. If you're 1 v 1 with Graham, you've got to deal with it" "I think we've all thought the Championship will be different. Well, it hasn't been and we're still making individual, stupid errors" "I have to change players, it's as simple as that" "Don't be surprised if you don't play next week" is what Rowett says he said to the whole team But who have we actually got to bring in defensively? Presumably Williams will come in (probably for Shawcross as he singled him out) - but who else? It won't be Bauer after his comments. Surely not Tymon. Or Souttar. So Williams and Edwards presumably? Why not Souttar? It's possible, but I'd be very surprised. Maybe he'll play him v Forest as a test. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 22, 2018 17:34:58 GMT
Got to say, for once, Nige showed some fire in his interview with Rowett today. And with Rowett absolutey furious and pulling no punches, it was one of the better ones. www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/p06k4wgrRowett interview 35 minutes "Our defensive actions are woeful. We've gifted them 4 chances, and they've scored 3 of them" "Ryan's caught 20 yards behind, and then he tries to step up which I don't understand. We've not worked on that once in training. You just drop in and defend if you're behind everyone and you deal with it. If you're 1 v 1 with Graham, you've got to deal with it" "I think we've all thought the Championship will be different. Well, it hasn't been and we're still making individual, stupid errors" "I have to change players, it's as simple as that" "Don't be surprised if you don't play next week" is what Rowett says he said to the whole team But who have we actually got to bring in defensively? Presumably Williams will come in (probably for Shawcross as he singled him out) - but who else? It won't be Bauer after his comments. Surely not Tymon. Or Souttar. So Williams and Edwards presumably? Why not Souttar? Is he anywhere near ready? |
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Post by lordb on Sept 22, 2018 17:35:28 GMT
We have options at right back.
We have Williams who can come in at centre back however he looks the same as Bruno and Shawcross to me.
We have no genuine options at left back.
I assume Williams and maybe Souttar will play at Forest.
Bauer or Edwards may get in at left back?
We need two quality defenders minimum in January.
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Post by lordb on Sept 22, 2018 17:36:16 GMT
Is he anywhere near ready? Only one way to find out. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 22, 2018 17:36:37 GMT
I couldn’t fuckin believe what I was listening to when Nige” I’ve grown a pair” Johnson came out with that😮
The whole back four needs scrapping and starting again,how he goes about that I don’t know but I do know he went to 3 centre backs at the end of last season at Derby when he was struggling.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 22, 2018 17:37:00 GMT
We have options at right back. We have Williams who can come in at centre back however he looks the same as Bruno and Shawcross to me. We have no genuine options at left back. I assume Williams and maybe Souttar will play at Forest. Bauer or Edwards may get in at left back? We need two quality defenders minimum in January. Bauer won't be playing for a long while judging by this interview |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Sept 22, 2018 17:37:20 GMT
Time to go cap in hand to Collins and beg him to join us!!! Unless he's gone elsewhere while we've dalied once again (haven't kept up with the football world this last week...like I ever do  )?? |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 22, 2018 17:37:52 GMT
Got to say, for once, Nige showed some fire in his interview with Rowett today. And with Rowett absolutey furious and pulling no punches, it was one of the better ones. www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/p06k4wgrRowett interview 35 minutes "Our defensive actions are woeful. We've gifted them 4 chances, and they've scored 3 of them" "Ryan's caught 20 yards behind, and then he tries to step up which I don't understand. We've not worked on that once in training. You just drop in and defend if you're behind everyone and you deal with it. If you're 1 v 1 with Graham, you've got to deal with it" "I think we've all thought the Championship will be different. Well, it hasn't been and we're still making individual, stupid errors" "I have to change players, it's as simple as that" "Don't be surprised if you don't play next week" is what Rowett says he said to the whole team But who have we actually got to bring in defensively? Presumably Williams will come in (probably for Shawcross as he singled him out) - but who else? It won't be Bauer after his comments. Surely not Tymon. Or Souttar. So Williams and Edwards presumably? Why not Souttar? I'd play fucking Sooty right now. |
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 22, 2018 17:40:07 GMT
It's always someone else's fault with Rowett isn't it? A bit like another manager we had but he got results.
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Post by liamo on Sept 22, 2018 17:40:26 GMT
Finally someone asking him more than generic football manager shite questions
They need a kick up the arse because they're clearly not doing what rowett expects
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Post by elystokie on Sept 22, 2018 17:41:02 GMT
Changes have to be made, obviously. Just as long as he doesn't go back to thinking it's a good idea to start with Fletcher. Fuck me, Fletcher, Adam and Crouch starting, Woods Etebo and Afobe dropped Sounds cracking  At least we'd be set up to play the hoofball Rowett is seemingly desperate to play, I personally hate it but at least he'd be playing the right players for it. |
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Post by wuzza on Sept 22, 2018 17:43:31 GMT
If Robert Huth can walk I would pay him to come back , stand in the centre of defence and tell people what to do.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 17:44:53 GMT
The squad has been a shambles for at least two years. I've seen nothing to see it improve, despite the new signings. You cannot turn a sow's ear into a silk purse.
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Post by NassauDave on Sept 22, 2018 17:46:44 GMT
I'd play fucking Sooty right now. As a sweeper? |
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Post by chamberlain on Sept 22, 2018 17:49:48 GMT
I couldn’t fuckin believe what I was listening to when Nige” I’ve grown a pair” Johnson came out with that😮 The whole back four needs scrapping and starting again,how he goes about that I don’t know but I do know he went to 3 centre backs at the end of last season at Derby when he was struggling. I was very suprised , never heard Nige ask anything like that before |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 17:50:13 GMT
Thanks for the link.
Now I've listened to it I don't see what the issue is with what he's said about Bauer. If Rowett has had the decency to sit down with Bauer and talk about his social media posts, most likely after the Sunderland game, then he's been a massive bellend today.
I can't see the issue with regards to giving away team details, so Rowett is talking nonsense there, but I can certainly see a respect issue.
He needs to be sent away from the club, and ultimately sold. We can't have this.
If the manager has spoken about it and the player is doing that less than 24 hours later then the player himself is no good. Poor character.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 22, 2018 17:50:16 GMT
I'd play fucking Sooty right now. As a sweeper? I'll set 'em up, you knock 'em in!  |
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Post by werrington on Sept 22, 2018 17:51:07 GMT
Is he anywhere near ready? Not this nonsense again Are we the only club where players aren’t ready ? |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 22, 2018 17:53:53 GMT
Thanks for the link. Now I've listened to it I don't see what the issue is with what he's said about Bauer. If Rowett has had the decency to sit down with Bauer and talk about his social media posts, most likely after the Sunderland game, then he's been a massive bellend today. I can't see the issue with regards to giving away team details, so Rowett is talking nonsense there, but I can certainly see a respect issue. He needs to be sent away from the club, and ultimately sold. We can't have this. If the manager has spoken about it and the player is doing that less than 24 hours later then the player himself is no good. Poor character. Tweet deleted now I see |
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Post by kustokie on Sept 22, 2018 17:53:56 GMT
Wow. Can’t argue with any of that. Took responsibility and pointed the finger at the problem everyone can see and he admitted it was main reason we were relegated. Our defence was and still is terrible. If we have to score at least 2 every game just to get a point we’re in trouble. Singling out Shawcross means he’s almost certainly dropped maybe for the foreseeable future. Both CH places are up for grabs and I doubt he’ll change both. One of those two places is Williams’s if only makes half the mistakes Shawcross has made since the beginning of the season. Sad to see the great man decline so quickly but he’s hurting the team and I’m sure he knows it.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 22, 2018 17:56:16 GMT
Is he anywhere near ready? Not this nonsense again Are we the only club where players aren’t ready ? I don't know how good he is, how is asking the question nonsense, maybe you should chill out a bit before jumping to the wrong conclusion. |
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Post by marcofstoke on Sept 22, 2018 17:59:36 GMT
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Post by werrington on Sept 22, 2018 18:00:35 GMT
Not this nonsense again Are we the only club where players aren’t ready ? I don't know how good he is, how is asking the question nonsense, maybe you should chill out a bit before jumping to the wrong conclusion. Fair do’s but is Shawcross ready is BMI ready ? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 22, 2018 18:01:33 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-blackburn-rowett-berahino-2032711“We have conceded 16 goals this season and with the Blackburn goals included today we have made 14 elementary mistakes in those 16 goals.
“I think Blackburn gave us a bit of a lesson late on under pressure when they are throwing bodies around and being aggressive and doing everything they can to stop a goal going in, but we are defensively soft and weak.
“They are frustrated and I understand they are going to vent that frustration at me, but it would be nice if they vented it at one or two defenders as well because as a manager you can’t do the last bit for them.
“I didn’t think there was anything massively wrong tactically, just poor defensive errors.
“At the moment we keep making elementary defensive mistakes. My criticism of myself is that I shouldn’t have given so many players opportunities because we keep making the same mistakes.
“They are good guys, really nice people, but sometimes defenders aren’t always nice people, they are horrible sods who do what they have to do.
“I spoke to the players after the game and said `Listen, if you are a defender and you are not playing in the next game, I fully expect no-one to knock on my door and ask why because it’s self explanatory.’
“They are nice guys and work very hard, but we are in a business where results dictate how long I last in a job and how long you last as a player.
“Results haven’t been good enough and that’s down largely to a soft underbelly.”
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