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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 22, 2018 16:39:25 GMT
Thanks for everything Ryan. Club legend. The three fuckers next to you should turn it in as well.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 22, 2018 16:41:05 GMT
Rowett has just said he's "shown too much faith in some players".. That's got to be Ryan he's on about surely?!
Btw, yet again Bruno was utterly woeful next to him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 16:43:34 GMT
Rowett has just said he's "shown too much faith in some players".. That's got to be Ryan he's on about surely?! Btw, yet again Bruno was utterly woeful next to him. He could be referring to any number of players there General. |
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Post by Pricey on Sept 22, 2018 16:43:40 GMT
Rip it up and start again.
Edwards, Williams, Souttar, Bauer new back four in a 4-2-3-1
Woods Clucas
Ince Bojan Etebo
Berahino
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 17:23:59 GMT
Has James Collins signed for Villa yet?
I get the feeling the transfer team will be having a little chat with his agent next week and if successful, we'll see him and Williams at the back.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 22, 2018 17:24:59 GMT
Just said the same on another thread😢😢
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Post by DentySCFC on Sept 22, 2018 17:28:07 GMT
It’s over. Legend but it’s time now.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Sept 22, 2018 17:29:00 GMT
Rowett has just said he's "shown too much faith in some players".. That's got to be Ryan he's on about surely?! Btw, yet again Bruno was utterly woeful next to him. I honestly think that half of Ryan's problems are caused by Bruno. He'd be the first I'd bench. The problem is who would we replace him with cus Williams shouldn't be an option. |
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Post by jarhead on Sept 22, 2018 17:29:16 GMT
Collins needs to be signed tonight and give him the Forest cup match to get minutes in him because ShawWank can’t be given another minute in a stoke shirt ( and he is a stoke legend) but its game over now Ryan nor to BMI either, a complete joke of a so called centre back.
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Post by songthrush01 on Sept 22, 2018 18:04:16 GMT
to me ryan is just be careful of his back,and is limiting himself with it.its now up to the management to see threw it,and somehow take the captaincy of him to.
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Post by sealion100 on Sept 22, 2018 18:11:23 GMT
No pace at all in the back line !! But it’s been that way for 18 months
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Post by Trouserdog on Sept 22, 2018 18:14:14 GMT
Didn't someone make the decision to extend his contract before this season?  Another player who's sadly no use anymore to us, but will be receiving a huge wage for the next couple of years. I don't begrudge him that on a personal level- if anyone deserves a golden pension from Stoke City it's him- but successful football clubs don't dish out sentimental contracts, they move old players on as soon as they look like they're on the turn. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 18:14:43 GMT
As soon as you remove the blood and thunder approach that he used to have, he's just a poor footballer with very few attributes.
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Post by fca47 on Sept 22, 2018 18:15:57 GMT
Lambert sorted the defence, Rowett can't, he is the main person the club are putting too much faith in. He is clueless,
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 18:16:44 GMT
Didn't someone make the decision to extend his contract before this season? Another player who's sadly no use anymore to us, but will be receiving a huge wage for the next couple of years. I don't begrudge him that on a personal level- if anyone deserves a golden pension from Stoke City it's him- but successful football clubs don't dish out sentimental contracts, they move old players on as soon as they look like they're on the turn. Don't get me started on the contracts extensions. It's almost like we are doing them a favour, heaven forbid these millionaires need to look else where for their over inflated salary. Legend or not, he and several others who received extensions should have been fucked off at least 18 months ago. Affelay another fine example, never fit so we give him 2 years extension. The club is run like a comedy sketch. |
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Post by Trouserdog on Sept 22, 2018 18:22:35 GMT
Didn't someone make the decision to extend his contract before this season? Another player who's sadly no use anymore to us, but will be receiving a huge wage for the next couple of years. I don't begrudge him that on a personal level- if anyone deserves a golden pension from Stoke City it's him- but successful football clubs don't dish out sentimental contracts, they move old players on as soon as they look like they're on the turn. Don't get me started on the contracts extensions. It's almost like we are doing them a favour, heaven forbid these millionaires need to look else where for their over inflated salary. Legend or not, he and several others who received extensions should have been fucked off at least 18 months ago. Affelay another fine example, never fit so we give him 2 years extension. The club is run like a comedy sketch. It's the main reason we're in such a mess |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 22, 2018 18:24:12 GMT
Rowett has just said he's "shown too much faith in some players".. That's got to be Ryan he's on about surely?! Btw, yet again Bruno was utterly woeful next to him. He could be referring to any number of players there General. Has to be Shawcross, had mentioned him earlier and was talking about the defence, it couldn't really be anyone else. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 18:27:47 GMT
Collins needs to be signed tonight and give him the Forest cup match to get minutes in him because ShawWank can’t be given another minute in a stoke shirt ( and he is a stoke legend) but its game over now Ryan nor to BMI either, a complete joke of a so called centre back. Ryan might well be past his best, and rightly deserves to be dropped, but to refer to him as ShawWank, is just wrong. Show the bloke some respect, it’s the least he deserves. |
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Post by mcw on Sept 22, 2018 18:28:48 GMT
The sight of Martina/BMI and Shawcross being bullied by Graham/Dack just confirmed to me that we are not fit for purpose in this league. All the crap about good players is redundant, if you can’t compete physically then doesn’t matter if you have talent or not. We are powderpuff and every other team knows it🙁
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Post by sportsman on Sept 22, 2018 18:30:15 GMT
Rowett has just said he's "shown too much faith in some players".. That's got to be Ryan he's on about surely?! Btw, yet again Bruno was utterly woeful next to him. As poor as Ryan and erik have been for a while, I can cut them some slack, but Bruno is just slow and shocking. |
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 22, 2018 18:32:47 GMT
Lambert sorted the defence, Rowett can't, he is the main person the club are putting too much faith in. He is clueless, We repeatedly conceded goals from leading and drawing positions under Lambert and hardly won any matches. We just didn't concede over 2 goals very often. |
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Post by jeycov on Sept 22, 2018 18:34:28 GMT
Mistake to play Shawcross on Tuesday after playing on Saturday
His fitness issues need to be managed sensibly
Agree Bruno was caught out by their attackers on several occasions today, after the first goal our heads went down
I do think that Williams will start on Wednesday and especially as it's a cup game he should change quite a few
Today's team performance was unrecognisable from the one at Sheffield Wednesday - there isn't one way to win a game of football - slow passing with no one moving into spaces is asking for trouble, neither is hoofing it forward.
Controlled long passes and quicker movement as the ball moves forward should keep us on the front foot
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Post by wuzza on Sept 22, 2018 18:37:02 GMT
I wouldn’t trust any of the current back 4 - it’s going to take a long time to resolve this.
Build from the back they say - we haven’t and as a result we can wave this season good bye.
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Post by PolPotter on Sept 22, 2018 18:40:36 GMT
We need to stick by Shawcross as much as we can. Up to the Ramsey incident, he could have picked a number of top clubs to play for. However, Arsenal and the media put paid to that. To turf him off so quickly would be shit of us. He's not the problem!!
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Post by milky on Sept 22, 2018 18:41:07 GMT
I don't think it's any exaggeration to see we need a completely new first choice back 4 .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 18:58:08 GMT
He could be referring to any number of players there General. Has to be Shawcross, had mentioned him earlier and was talking about the defence, it couldn't really be anyone else. I think I meant more generally mate; that description is a good fit for quite a few of the players imho. No doubt he was specifically referring to Ryan in this instance mind. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 19:01:04 GMT
We need to stick by Shawcross as much as we can. Up to the Ramsey incident, he could have picked a number of top clubs to play for. However, Arsenal and the media put paid to that. To turf him off so quickly would be shit of us. He's not the problem!! Has any other club ever shown an interest in him? I don't recall so not sure where you get the number of top clubs from. Also he's had 10 years of handsome pay and he's been a big problem for 18 months. |
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Post by PolPotter on Sept 22, 2018 19:19:10 GMT
We need to stick by Shawcross as much as we can. Up to the Ramsey incident, he could have picked a number of top clubs to play for. However, Arsenal and the media put paid to that. To turf him off so quickly would be shit of us. He's not the problem!! Has any other club ever shown an interest in him? I don't recall so not sure where you get the number of top clubs from. Also he's had 10 years of handsome pay and he's been a big problem for 18 months. How many players contributed to 10 years of uninterrupted football at the top level for Stoke City?? Don't kick the bloke now. |
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Post by spoton on Sept 22, 2018 19:22:06 GMT
Lets all not forget how toss Butland is
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Post by sportsman on Sept 22, 2018 19:23:58 GMT
I just can't get my head around the fact that the fans and surely the club have known we needed a whole new back for for nearly 2 years now, and three of them are still starting.
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