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Post by soccerhq on Sept 18, 2018 9:26:00 GMT
Seems like he's been forgotten about all ready!
Thought the guy was a decent player at Hull, struggled more at Swansea but just wondering where he's going to play particularly with Woods now in the building.
I would imagine with Woods as DM that will push Joe Allen further forward to try to get him scoring a few more goals like when he first arrived in 16/17 so that rules him out of the advanced midfield spot.
Upfront seems like Ince and Afobe are automatic starters and McClean will start more often than not so really he's in contention with likes of Diouf/Bojan for a spot.
I know transfer fees even at this level are ridiculous nowadays but for 6m I'd expect a week in week out player. Interested the logic to signing him, guess the club thought Woods might not have come as you'd think the 6m could've been allocated to improving the back 4 instead.
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 18, 2018 9:29:15 GMT
Seems like he's been forgotten about all ready! Thought the guy was a decent player at Hull, struggled more at Swansea but just wondering where he's going to play particularly with Woods now in the building. I would imagine with Woods as DM that will push Joe Allen further forward to try to get him scoring a few more goals like when he first arrived in 16/17 so that rules him out of the advanced midfield spot. Upfront seems like Ince and Afobe are automatic starters and McClean will start more often than not so really he's in contention with likes of Diouf/Bojan for a spot. I know transfer fees even at this level are ridiculous nowadays but for 6m I'd expect a week in week out player. Interested the logic to signing him, guess the club thought Woods might not have come as you'd think the 6m could've been allocated to improving the back 4 instead. Rather than push Joe Allen further forward, I'd rather Rowett pushed Joe Allen to the substitutes bench away from the Starting XI. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 18, 2018 9:30:15 GMT
I'd rather Allen recovers the form he has shown before,he can play better than he is at the moment.
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Sept 18, 2018 9:33:46 GMT
Seems like he's been forgotten about all ready! Thought the guy was a decent player at Hull, struggled more at Swansea but just wondering where he's going to play particularly with Woods now in the building. I would imagine with Woods as DM that will push Joe Allen further forward to try to get him scoring a few more goals like when he first arrived in 16/17 so that rules him out of the advanced midfield spot. Upfront seems like Ince and Afobe are automatic starters and McClean will start more often than not so really he's in contention with likes of Diouf/Bojan for a spot. I know transfer fees even at this level are ridiculous nowadays but for 6m I'd expect a week in week out player. Interested the logic to signing him, guess the club thought Woods might not have come as you'd think the 6m could've been allocated to improving the back 4 instead. You do relaise he's injured and is a few weeks away at best from returning to full fitness |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Sept 18, 2018 9:46:01 GMT
What a bizarre thread......
Player who is injured doesn't play shock exclusive, so that therefore now equates to him being "forgotten about"?
Does the OP write for any tabloids? He could have a good career i reckon
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Post by hanibal7 on Sept 18, 2018 9:51:38 GMT
Seems like he's been forgotten about all ready! Thought the guy was a decent player at Hull, struggled more at Swansea but just wondering where he's going to play particularly with Woods now in the building. I would imagine with Woods as DM that will push Joe Allen further forward to try to get him scoring a few more goals like when he first arrived in 16/17 so that rules him out of the advanced midfield spot. Upfront seems like Ince and Afobe are automatic starters and McClean will start more often than not so really he's in contention with likes of Diouf/Bojan for a spot. I know transfer fees even at this level are ridiculous nowadays but for 6m I'd expect a week in week out player. Interested the logic to signing him, guess the club thought Woods might not have come as you'd think the 6m could've been allocated to improving the back 4 instead. Oyyyyyyh nutta |
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Post by soccerhq on Sept 18, 2018 9:59:00 GMT
I know he's injured given he signed early August....however I don't see him being put in any predicted 11s going forward hence the forgotten part. Where will he play when fit, front three or midfield three?
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Post by Gods on Sept 18, 2018 10:07:15 GMT
When asked about injuries at yesterday's prezzer Rowett called out Sam Clucas as though he were somehow simply a game or two away.
My understanding is that he has not played football for over 5 months, is recovering from knee surgery and is not yet able to commence full training.
Why don't the club just close the topic down and give us an honest appraisal as to when he is a likely starter?
Say 6 weeks to get fit (in effect a full pre-season)once he starts full time training, 2 weeks to play a couple of practice games to get up to match speed so that is 2 months from now assuming no setbacks which there are often are with knee surgery.
If nothing else it would stop people on here from naming him in their suggested lineups every week!
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 18, 2018 10:15:25 GMT
I'd rather Allen recovers the form he has shown before,he can play better than he is at the moment. Allen had excellent revues last week playing for Wales. Was that just paper talk, or does he do something different for them? |
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Post by neddy on Sept 18, 2018 10:17:13 GMT
I'd rather Allen recovers the form he has shown before,he can play better than he is at the moment. Allen had excellent revues last week playing for Wales. Was that just paper talk, or does he do something different for them? Anyone think Allen just needs a bit of a rest? |
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 18, 2018 10:21:00 GMT
I think we have to be very patient with Clucas when he starts playing.
Players who have been out for a long time due to injury, operation, or simply not picked, lose form and most never seem to recover their original/former form:
Butland, Shawcross, Bony, Wimmer, Berahino, Jese, Afellay, Cameron, etc.
I accept some can eventually get back to good form, but it is a long process.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 10:27:13 GMT
The unknowing and the unthinking is a pretty deadly combination.
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Post by dadofsam on Sept 18, 2018 11:02:20 GMT
I hear what people are saying about Clucas, but why the fuck did we buy him, we need / needed players now not some point in the future. This isn't a Rory job or anything and it isn't even as though we got a star player on the cheap as a gamble.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 18, 2018 11:11:57 GMT
Once he's fit and running I think he'll be competition for left back and the midfield, as we saw on Saturday when Woods, Etebo and Allen start we lack any decent cover incase of injuries/poor form, Fletcher is currently our best (debatable but very little in it) back up and that needs to improve.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 18, 2018 11:12:13 GMT
I hear what people are saying about Clucas, but why the fuck did we buy him, we need / needed players now not some point in the future. This isn't a Rory job or anything and it isn't even as though we got a star player on the cheap as a gamble. I think we did get him on the cheap. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 11:36:32 GMT
Seems like he's been forgotten about all ready! You are alone in forgetting Clucas. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, and many on here seem to think we've signed Nzonzi incarnated such are the expectations of the player when/if he becomes a fixture in the team. Many of those that "pick the team" on here on a regular basis list Clucas (some even in two different positions at the same time), despite the fact that he is simply not fit to play. Since he has missed pre-season training and hasn't started figuring in training yet, it could be a while before he can claim a spot in the team. A time spent on the bench with occasional cameos may be the most his many fans can hope for now. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 18, 2018 11:36:39 GMT
I hear what people are saying about Clucas, but why the fuck did we buy him, we need / needed players now not some point in the future. This isn't a Rory job or anything and it isn't even as though we got a star player on the cheap as a gamble. I think we did get him on the cheap. My memory is a bit iffy nowadays but didn't he sign for Swansea for about £15m just over 12 months ago. If I'm right £6m is very cheap by comparison. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 11:39:31 GMT
I'd rather Allen recovers the form he has shown before,he can play better than he is at the moment. Allen had excellent revues last week playing for Wales. Was that just paper talk, or does he do something different for them? It was paper talk. I didn't see the Ireland game but they were very poor opposition, but I watched the Denmark game and the only time I noticed him was when he was booked. |
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 18, 2018 11:44:32 GMT
I hear what people are saying about Clucas, but why the fuck did we buy him, we need / needed players now not some point in the future. This isn't a Rory job or anything and it isn't even as though we got a star player on the cheap as a gamble. I think we did get him on the cheap. You would hope so based on the facts that Swansea didn't want him, he has a long term serious injury and we will not see any return from this investment until next year. Or maybe Swansea grossly paid over the odds for him and ne isn't worth 6m. Odd signing to file alongside McClean and Williams. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 11:49:50 GMT
Clucas will play LW or LB won’t he? Can’t see him being anything but cover now in CM.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 18, 2018 12:02:56 GMT
I think we did get him on the cheap. You would hope so based on the facts that Swansea didn't want him, he has a long term serious injury and we will not see any return from this investment until next year. Or maybe Swansea grossly paid over the odds for him and ne isn't worth 6m. Odd signing to file alongside McClean and Williams. Swansea were selling anyone that would get them a few mil, they needed the cash, they took a very heavy loss on him, if they did over pay then maybe we got him for the right money but I don't see it as odd tbh, he can cover a lot of positions and has a good rep. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 18, 2018 12:03:54 GMT
I think we did get him on the cheap. My memory is a bit iffy nowadays but didn't he sign for Swansea for about £15m just over 12 months ago. If I'm right £6m is very cheap by comparison. Undisclosed but they did have a 12mil bid rejected before they signed him so I doubt 15mil is far off. |
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Post by Absolution on Sept 18, 2018 12:32:58 GMT
The slightly curious twist to the Clucas signing is that it was reported Swansea were selling him so they could buy Woods.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 18, 2018 12:41:33 GMT
Didn't Rowett intimate recently that if Clucas had been fit, we may not have signed Woods?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 14:06:43 GMT
Seems like he's been forgotten about all ready! Thought the guy was a decent player at Hull, struggled more at Swansea but just wondering where he's going to play particularly with Woods now in the building. I would imagine with Woods as DM that will push Joe Allen further forward to try to get him scoring a few more goals like when he first arrived in 16/17 so that rules him out of the advanced midfield spot. Upfront seems like Ince and Afobe are automatic starters and McClean will start more often than not so really he's in contention with likes of Diouf/Bojan for a spot. I know transfer fees even at this level are ridiculous nowadays but for 6m I'd expect a week in week out player. Interested the logic to signing him, guess the club thought Woods might not have come as you'd think the 6m could've been allocated to improving the back 4 instead. WTF??? When Delap first signed and broke his leg. Wasn’t it bizarre that we didn’t constantly talk about him over the players in the team... |
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 18, 2018 14:38:53 GMT
Clucas will play LW or LB won’t he? Can’t see him being anything but cover now in CM. Exactly, he'll be cover for the left hand side and/or a utility player on the bench, if he ever gets fit. Absolutely bizarre signing really |
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Post by Absolution on Sept 18, 2018 15:03:17 GMT
Didn't Rowett intimate recently that if Clucas had been fit, we may not have signed Woods? Once upon a time I'd have said that sounded unbelievable. Now it just sounds like the Stoke City version of joined up thinking. |
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Post by jimmygscfc on Sept 18, 2018 15:03:58 GMT
Playing with a midfield three and having Fletcher and Adam as back-up means Clucas will prove very useful over the season. I wouldn't worry about it to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 15:25:53 GMT
Playing with a midfield three and having Fletcher and Adam as back-up means Clucas will prove very useful over the season. I wouldn't worry about it to be honest. Well....if the three of them were injured or suspended at the same time, and it can happen, just look at Swansea's prematch problems, you could be looking at a midfield stand in three of Fletcher, Clucas, and Adam... Now I know some people here think that Clucas is Superman, probably those that didn't see him much before, but that supporting cast doesn't just worry me. It sacres me! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 15:27:53 GMT
He can play on the wing, full back, centre mid or holding...
It's hard to envision him not being atleast relatively useful.
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