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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 6, 2018 17:54:22 GMT
No mate I'd say he's signed a a midfielder, its probably the same people on about clucas for left back as muniesa for midfield. Tbf he has played left back before, not sure how often though. According to that transfermarkt site, 23 times out of 258 career appearances. So hard to see that really being on Rowett's radar, you'd think
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Post by smatty88 on Sept 6, 2018 18:00:38 GMT
Tbf he has played left back before, not sure how often though. According to that transfermarkt site, 23 times out of 258 career appearances. So hard to see that really being on Rowett's radar, you'd think Probably more chance of Martina playing there.
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 6, 2018 18:47:26 GMT
When Clucas signed, Rowett said:
"We looked at a number of options at left back and at this moment - I’m not saying it won’t happen in the window - did we want to bring in *just* a left back?" [my emphasis]
He went on to say he could play in midfield as well but LB was the first position he mentioned. Given that we've since signed Woods, and we've got in-form Etebo and undroppable Allen, and we haven't signed a left back, my instinct is he'll most likely be competing for that position (or maybe left wing).
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 6, 2018 18:52:34 GMT
No mate I'd say he's signed a a midfielder, its probably the same people on about clucas for left back as muniesa for midfield. Tbf he has played left back before, not sure how often though. That’s what I’ve long wondered, does anyone know if he’s actually been any good there? Or has he played there in the same way that BMI has played left back as in, ‘he’s played there but oh Christ my eyes never again please’?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 6, 2018 18:53:36 GMT
When Clucas signed, Rowett said: "We looked at a number of options at left back and at this moment - I’m not saying it won’t happen in the window - did we want to bring in *just* a left back?" [my emphasis] He went on to say he could play in midfield as well but LB was the first position he mentioned. Given that we've since signed Woods, and we've got in-form Etebo and undroppable Allen, and we haven't signed a left back, my instinct is he'll most likely be competing for that position (or maybe left wing). But that was very much in the context of being asked whether we wanted a left back wasn’t it, rather than “I’m glad we’ve signed Sam because he’s here to play left back”. He’s made his name as a centre mid I think?
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 6, 2018 20:12:02 GMT
When Clucas signed, Rowett said: "We looked at a number of options at left back and at this moment - I’m not saying it won’t happen in the window - did we want to bring in *just* a left back?" [my emphasis] He went on to say he could play in midfield as well but LB was the first position he mentioned. Given that we've since signed Woods, and we've got in-form Etebo and undroppable Allen, and we haven't signed a left back, my instinct is he'll most likely be competing for that position (or maybe left wing). But that was very much in the context of being asked whether we wanted a left back wasn’t it, rather than “I’m glad we’ve signed Sam because he’s here to play left back”. He’s made his name as a centre mid I think? No, in the presser it was just in response to "are you happy with the business we've done?" Although the wording was slightly different to what I've quoted above so maybe there were two interviews - and if there were, that's two interviews where he's specifically mentioned left back in connection with Clucas. With Rowett seemingly emphasising his flexibility so much I just think he'll be seen as an option to bolster our desperately thin left side more than in the middle (where we're overstocked).
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Post by jarhead on Sept 6, 2018 21:42:33 GMT
But still plays Pieters ??! As said above, who would you replace him with? A fuckin traffic cone!
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Post by jarhead on Sept 6, 2018 21:43:13 GMT
But tbh Clucas I think will eventually go left back.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Sept 6, 2018 23:59:52 GMT
Pieters will be staying at left back, he's a fucking goal machine.
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Post by scfcrmagic on Sept 8, 2018 3:37:00 GMT
Bauer imo is a quality player, he will carry the ball up the pitch if he sees a run available, and to be fair a lot of our lads don’t like to find space preferring to stay with their marker, thus not being Responsible for the football in front of the goal....we do also get involved with an awful lot of back passing, we put Butland under pressure ourselves. no need for the opposition to do it........to coin a phrase ... ‘To me to you, to Butland back to me ....” sometimes you actually can run with the ball all the way up the pitch ....it is allowed ...and if Bauer makes a run...then cover the gap left ..pretty basic stuff.
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Post by enuntio on Sept 8, 2018 5:58:36 GMT
^^ that's exactly why I'd like 5 at the back. Throw Diouf there too
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 8, 2018 8:51:56 GMT
When Clucas signed, Rowett said: "We looked at a number of options at left back and at this moment - I’m not saying it won’t happen in the window - did we want to bring in *just* a left back?" [my emphasis] He went on to say he could play in midfield as well but LB was the first position he mentioned. Given that we've since signed Woods, and we've got in-form Etebo and undroppable Allen, and we haven't signed a left back, my instinct is he'll most likely be competing for that position (or maybe left wing). There won't be much competition!
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Post by djralphy1984 on Sept 11, 2018 9:08:04 GMT
When Clucas signed, Rowett said: "We looked at a number of options at left back and at this moment - I’m not saying it won’t happen in the window - did we want to bring in *just* a left back?" [my emphasis] He went on to say he could play in midfield as well but LB was the first position he mentioned. Given that we've since signed Woods, and we've got in-form Etebo and undroppable Allen, and we haven't signed a left back, my instinct is he'll most likely be competing for that position (or maybe left wing). I spoke to Clucas the other week after training and he said his best position is midfield but happy to play anywhere.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 11, 2018 12:48:21 GMT
When Clucas signed, Rowett said: "We looked at a number of options at left back and at this moment - I’m not saying it won’t happen in the window - did we want to bring in *just* a left back?" [my emphasis] He went on to say he could play in midfield as well but LB was the first position he mentioned. Given that we've since signed Woods, and we've got in-form Etebo and undroppable Allen, and we haven't signed a left back, my instinct is he'll most likely be competing for that position (or maybe left wing). I spoke to Clucas the other week after training and he said his best position is midfield but happy to play anywhere. I spoke with someone who worked with Clucas at Hull. Apparently he's a great lad and a good professional. He's a good player, very versatile but his best position is as a holding midfielder. When further forward, he lacks the vision and speed of thought in the final third and needs 3 or 4 options before playing a pass and 3 or 4 touches also. The same person actually used Charlie Adam's vision and ability to pick a pass to a single option with limited touches as something that Clucas lacks. He also commented on Charlie's "lack of fitness" rather than lack of ability. He could "do a job" at left and on the left side of midfield but his lack of quality in that key area of the pitch is a problem when in that left sided role.
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 11, 2018 13:39:37 GMT
I spoke to Clucas the other week after training and he said his best position is midfield but happy to play anywhere. I spoke with someone who worked with Clucas at Hull. Apparently he's a great lad and a good professional. He's a good player, very versatile but his best position is as a holding midfielder. When further forward, he lacks the vision and speed of thought in the final third and needs 3 or 4 options before playing a pass and 3 or 4 touches also. The same person actually used Charlie Adam's vision and ability to pick a pass to a single option with limited touches as something that Clucas lacks. He also commented on Charlie's "lack of fitness" rather than lack of ability. He could "do a job" at left and on the left side of midfield but his lack of quality in that key area of the pitch is a problem when in that left sided role. I am pretty sure Clucas has been brought in as a holding midfielder but with the added value of covering a couple of left sided roles. The above description of his skills makes you wonder what the scouts at Swansea were thinking when they saw him as the replacement for Sigurdsson, the sort of muddled thinking you would expect from our recruitment team. Rowett will always favour 2 holding mids so him and Woods will be the first names on the team sheets with Etebo or allen being benched. Rowett doesn't see the need for creativity in midfield solely relying on that coming from the wide players Ince and McClean....which will result in not winning enough games for promotion.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 14, 2018 17:03:14 GMT
Playing for the U23’s again tonight
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Post by tomcmod on Sept 14, 2018 17:04:03 GMT
Playing for u-23s again tonight so won't be playing again tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 17:04:10 GMT
Playing for the under 23s again tonight. What a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 17:05:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 17:10:30 GMT
Bauer continues to be made a scapegoat then.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 17:10:32 GMT
It's all a bit odd this. In the summer, he said this about him: “We wanted as many of the players who we felt could make a massive difference to buy in to what we are doing and commit to the Club.
“First and foremost it’s a statement of intent from the Club that we want to be strong and possibly stronger than last season and secondly it’s confirmation that players can see that we’re planning for a real push. Its fantastic news and I’m looking forward to working with another top player.”
Rowett added: “I’ve watched quite a lot of the games from last season and Moritz was one of the ones who stood out just because of his energy, quality and I thought his attitude was fantastic.
“Obviously his versatility is also an added bonus, although I predominately see him as an attacking right-back.
“Since I’ve started working with him I’ve been really impressed with his attitude. He wants to work, he wants to stay behind after training and do extra because he’s so diligent and professional and I think it’s another good news story for the Club.”Rowett on Bauer deal... and now he's in the U-23s? That's some fall from grace to go from superlatives such as "He stood out last season and I thought his attitude was fantastic" and that last line above about his attitude again, his dilligence and his professionalism to playing with the nu-stiffs.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 14, 2018 17:10:45 GMT
*shakes head*
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 17:12:25 GMT
It's all a bit odd this. In the summer, he said this about him: “We wanted as many of the players who we felt could make a massive difference to buy in to what we are doing and commit to the Club.
“First and foremost it’s a statement of intent from the Club that we want to be strong and possibly stronger than last season and secondly it’s confirmation that players can see that we’re planning for a real push. Its fantastic news and I’m looking forward to working with another top player.”
Rowett added: “I’ve watched quite a lot of the games from last season and Moritz was one of the ones who stood out just because of his energy, quality and I thought his attitude was fantastic.
“Obviously his versatility is also an added bonus, although I predominately see him as an attacking right-back.
“Since I’ve started working with him I’ve been really impressed with his attitude. He wants to work, he wants to stay behind after training and do extra because he’s so diligent and professional and I think it’s another good news story for the Club.”Rowett on Bauer deal... and now he's in the U-23s? That's some fall from grace to go from superlatives such as "He stood out last season and I thought his attitude was fantastic" and that last line above about his attitude again, his dilligence and his professionalism to playing with the nu-stiffs. The whole club is a bit odd.
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Sept 14, 2018 17:16:20 GMT
It is all a bit confusing.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 14, 2018 17:18:25 GMT
It's a right laugh when you have dickheads on massive salaries playing politics with the club isn't it?
Hope they're all enjoying themselves.
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Post by jeycov on Sept 14, 2018 17:19:11 GMT
Is this Rowett being stupidly stubborn, wanting a team made of of (mostly) players that he has brought to the club?
Is he continuing to make a point regarding players who make comments on social media etc?
Has something else happened?
We have a history of stubborn managers who don't seem to put the overall performance of the club as top priority
A concern is the message that this is sending out to potential talented players who we may attract
Maybe we need a "Bojan " style song to remind Mr Rowett that Bauer is still at the club and most fans value his contribution
Strange decision - the last thing we need right now is an unhappy camp
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 14, 2018 17:21:26 GMT
It's unfair to let Adam play,he will be far too quick for those young lads.
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Post by Scouse on Sept 14, 2018 17:23:34 GMT
Or. , as not part of the immediate first team plans but , perhaps still important he keeps match fit ( his choice, the clubs or both ) playing in the U23 is the closest thing available to a competitive game given that professional football with ever increasing numbers of players on their books see it as sensible to have no reserve fixtures / League
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 17:41:35 GMT
Or. , as not part of the immediate first team plans but , perhaps still important he keeps match fit ( his choice, the clubs or both ) playing in the U23 is the closest thing available to a competitive game given that professional football with ever increasing numbers of players on their books see it as sensible to have no reserve fixtures / League We are utter wank....if a full international isn't part of our first team squad then the manager wants fucking off
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Post by musik on Sept 14, 2018 17:43:09 GMT
Don't worry. He'll be back. He must. He's a good footballer. All defenders can't be sloooow.
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