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Post by Do it for dobing on Aug 24, 2018 5:37:10 GMT
I do not think we should make the same mistake as last season with MH,if he can't turn it round then the board should look elsewhere to try and salvage something from this season
I would give him 10 to 12 games to turn this ship round
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Post by knype on Aug 24, 2018 5:41:26 GMT
Nowhere near long enough to give someone with a squad as inadequate as ours!
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 24, 2018 5:48:48 GMT
If we lose tomorrow he'll go.
There will be riots if we lose again tomorrow!
We may as well shut the club down and start again, go into admin and get rid of all the shit carto, scholes and now rowett have signed
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 5:52:11 GMT
Who the fuck would want to come to us?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 5:58:12 GMT
Lambert would be back given the chance.  |
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Post by musik on Aug 24, 2018 5:58:52 GMT
If so, January it will be.
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Post by mallorcanstokie on Aug 24, 2018 7:10:52 GMT
If, big IF, we'd scored in the first 25 mins, when we played sow good stuff I don't think we'd be talking like this,
But we didn't and we are, but a full 90 mins instead of 25 against Hull and we will all feel better..
(still crying out for behind the scenes to be sorted..)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 7:18:03 GMT
If we lose tomorrow he'll go. I think it would take a 7-0 kind of drubbing for this to potentially happen, and even then, I'm not sure Coates would pull the trigger just yet. I expect him to get until January at the very earliest, hopefully much longer. We need a full rebuild and that is not going to happen after one summer. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 24, 2018 7:18:26 GMT
It's impossible to see us winning tomorrow really isn't it? The players don't have it in them and the manager cannot motivate them or organise them. I suppose we might spunk a draw as Hull are no great shakes but this story has a lot more misery and anger in it yet.
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Post by kristoff on Aug 24, 2018 7:22:43 GMT
It's impossible to see us winning tomorrow really isn't it? The players don't have it in them and the manager cannot motivate them or organise them. I suppose we might spunk a draw as Hull are no great shakes but this story has a lot more misery and anger in it yet. I suspect it’ll only get better when we hit rock bottom, we aren’t there quite yet. I do wonder though if Rowett is letting them all implode to get it all out of their system then start again |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Aug 24, 2018 7:25:13 GMT
Thing is if Rowett goes they will employ another 'Yes' man. Keep Rowett here, he'll turn it around, his record says he will.
If rowett is not a yes man & gets scholes out behind the scenes he's gone up further still in my estimation
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 24, 2018 7:26:21 GMT
I can't see us winning at home at all until some sort of confidence is restored. It looks like the players are buckling under the pressure. We'll have to fluke an away win somewhere to get our season up and running.
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Aug 24, 2018 7:26:56 GMT
I do not think we should make the same mistake as last season with MH,if he can't turn it round then the board should look elsewhere to try and salvage something from this season I would give him 10 to 12 games to turn this ship round I trust the board with nothing so sacking him will solve the square root of F all. |
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Post by senojbor on Aug 24, 2018 7:29:08 GMT
I don't know how the hierarchy will play this one out. The club have retained most of last seasons squad, added to it with some decent signings.
It amounts to a huge financial investment for a championship club.
Without a shadow of a doubt there enough quality players to win this league or come very close to it.
My guess is though the ship needs to be steadied sooner rather than later. If this shambles carries on I can't see Rowett being here by October.
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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 24, 2018 7:46:24 GMT
Without a shadow of a doubt there enough quality players to win this league or come very close to it. You can't possibly believe this? We have about three players who are not absolute garbage. |
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Post by buckoscfc on Aug 24, 2018 7:47:16 GMT
The problem with sacking Rowett would be that another manager would come in who is also unable to change the performances from this squad. In under 12 months we've had 3 managers, all of which have been unable to get positive results from these players. It seems to me that the players and the pizza boys are the problem. At the moment that sheer incompetence from the players and scholes etc are the ones halting any progression.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 24, 2018 7:57:38 GMT
Funny the leeway people are giving Rowett as opposed to Lambert, isn't it? All of a sudden it's a massive task he's been left with? At least he's got some strikers to work with!
I said at the time Lambert had been left with a bag of nails, but most on here said we were easily good enough to stay up. Guess what, now Rowett can't get a time out of them either.
Lambert couldn't get the goals we needed, and Rowett can't sort the defence out(we are hardly banging goals in, either!).
It's a big job for anyone, but I have seen nothing so far from Rowett that has convinced me he is up to it.
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Post by foster on Aug 24, 2018 7:58:41 GMT
I'm not sure I blame the manager more than those running the club. We have a squad littered with deadwood and no one has any idea how much power the players wield in terms of getting playing time. Either because they push for it themselves, or because of their agents or because we're trying to offload them. The squad is far too big and unbalanced and I don't see any other new manager turning it around. The guys at the top should be getting rid of the bad eggs, not leaving them there for GR to try and manage when his first priority is putting together a team of players that want to do well for the club.
All this chopping and changing is a byproduct of having all these wasters at the club. He's trying to give everyone a chance even though some don't deserve it.
Before the summer we had two main goals. Bring in new players and get rid of the deadwood. We haven't gotten rid of any deadwood and it's plagued the club for years.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 24, 2018 8:01:00 GMT
Gone already not up to it
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Post by Veritas on Aug 24, 2018 8:05:23 GMT
If we lose tomorrow he'll go. There will be riots if we lose again tomorrow! We may as well shut the club down and start again, go into admin and get rid of all the shit carto, scholes and now rowett have signed There is some rot spouted on this site but this is the worst for some time |
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Post by Veritas on Aug 24, 2018 8:09:02 GMT
I don't know how the hierarchy will play this one out. The club have retained most of last seasons squad, added to it with some decent signings. It amounts to a huge financial investment for a championship club. Without a shadow of a doubt there enough quality players to win this league or come very close to it. My guess is though the ship needs to be steadied sooner rather than later. If this shambles carries on I can't see Rowett being here by October. I agree he has until the end of October, if we don't see significant improvement by then rather than the pre-season objective of an immediate bounce back we will be looking at preventing a second drop which will require radical action in terms of the magerial set up. Changing at that point will give a new manager time to try to galvanize the existing squad and if this doesn't work some radical action in the transfer market will be needed in January. |
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Post by neddy on Aug 24, 2018 8:13:35 GMT
Funny the leeway people are giving Rowett as opposed to Lambert, isn't it? All of a sudden it's a massive task he's been left with? At least he's got some strikers to work with! I said at the time Lambert had been left with a bag of nails, but most on here said we were easily good enough to stay up. Guess what, now Rowett can't get a time out of them either. Lambert couldn't get the goals we needed, and Rowett can't sort the defence out(we are hardly banging goals in, either!). It's a big job for anyone, but I have seen nothing so far from Rowett that has convinced me he is up to it. That’s what slightly concerning me with GR although I’m prepared to give him some time....Lambert did have was it 15 games? I really worry about McClean and Williams as I think they are poor signings and could add to our collection of deadwood? But that said clearly his first choice was Chester and Richie and I think we rushed in and could live to regret? I would over loan in if the quality was available and risk leaving some out of the matchday squad.......but only if the right players became available. The Board need to sit all parties down and clear the air and if grievances and differences can’t be resolved decisions as to who needs to be removed need to take place....infighting cannot continue!! |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Aug 24, 2018 8:14:13 GMT
He still has the full backing of Coates or he would not have sanctioned the player from Brentford so i would say he is going nowhere soon.
We have to get behind him & hope things drop into place.
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Post by Roger Everyone on Aug 24, 2018 8:55:23 GMT
20 games in and we will be the top 8. January onwards it will all come together...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 8:56:14 GMT
Re OP = 42 left! 😬
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Post by auntiegeorge on Aug 24, 2018 9:02:41 GMT
We've always started seasons poorly, at least in recent memory. Some of them have resulted in top 10 finishes, some of them haven't. Rowett is an experienced Championship manager, and although he isn't showing signs of that reputation so far, I say give him until Christmas. He may surprise us all yet.
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Post by Do it for dobing on Aug 24, 2018 9:08:39 GMT
I think Xmas is too late if we are not up and running in October with good football and climbing the table we need to be brave enough to go for the change and not panic in January as last year
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 24, 2018 9:15:38 GMT
If it doesn't work out we could replace him with Nick Daws. Scunthorpe have sacked him.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 24, 2018 9:15:40 GMT
Nowhere near long enough to give someone with a squad as inadequate as ours! Agree but he seems to be making it worse with his choice of signing and team selection try and figure that be ause I really can't |
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Post by buckoscfc on Aug 24, 2018 9:34:22 GMT
A friend of mine is a Fulham fan and he just told me that last season after 12 games, Fulham were 17th.
By no means do I want to underestimate the problems at the club which are currently evident for us all to see, but the fact that Fulham gained promotion with an equally torrid start to the season is somewhat comforting. Rowett has it all to do, but its too early to right him off yet.
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