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Post by gingerninja on Aug 19, 2018 17:20:08 GMT
He is obviously at odds with the recruitment team over signings. Someone said there was a rumour he wanted to walk after Brentford game. surely this isn't likely anytime soon?
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Post by neddy on Aug 19, 2018 17:21:32 GMT
He is obviously at odds with the recruitment team over signings. Someone said there was a rumour he wanted to walk after Brentford game. surely this isn't likely anytime soon? Just listening to Neville about Mourinho and it sounds exactly the same scenario....so that’s why it needs sorting? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 17:25:08 GMT
Well most of the players do^.....sorry couldn't resist
No, I doubt it, we COULD be a good club if we really wanted to. Only the old fashioned outlook that runs us like Arkwrights corner shop is holding us back.
One day it will change, just hope I live to see it as after 50 years I get sick of our club being old fashioned and penny pinching.
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Post by Gods on Aug 19, 2018 17:31:22 GMT
The list of clubs queuing up to match his salary, contract and conditions at Stoke City and in close enough proximity to his new build home one would imagine would be a very short one.
So unless his principles stretch beyond his material wealth I would say no.
He needs to act like a team player himself and start producing some results , the players at his disposal are easily good enough to mount a challenge.
If he does that he will soon be loved.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 17:34:02 GMT
He’s a good manager, he will back himself to get us going.
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Post by stokeson on Aug 19, 2018 17:36:10 GMT
What a stupid thread.
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Post by gingerninja on Aug 19, 2018 17:37:12 GMT
I actually quite like Rowett, he's open and calls it like it actually is, instead of making up some drivel which actually insult the intelligence..I don't think he quite imagined just what a mess the club is in. For a club of our size to have such massive wages sat on the bench,or not even making the bench is nothing short of a disgrace.
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Post by stokeson on Aug 19, 2018 17:39:59 GMT
3 games .lost 1 drawn 2.
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 19, 2018 17:40:33 GMT
He’s a good manager, he will back himself to get us going. He is but i think people need to realise it won't happen overnight. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Aug 19, 2018 17:42:06 GMT
If he walks he won’t get paid , he will wait until and if he’s sacked
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Post by tony1234 on Aug 19, 2018 17:43:51 GMT
Possible, of course it is.
Odds - probably still long. We've seen situations play out in the media before like this, its rare they are settled in a moment. We don't know the extent of the tensions, and what he was promised on coming here. If was he promised help to shift the 10-12 deadwood/failures to create new squad places and start with a new culture, then we only offloaded one bar the loans that returned, i.e. Sobhi. If he was promised all his key players ready for Germany, he was failed then too. If he is seeking fast action to get another forward, he is not getting much help there either. The tension depends on what the mutual expectations were before we started.
If I was Rowett, I would have thought about it though, wouldn't you? - what it means to stay vs walk - what my chances are of pulling Stoke round with the millstone around my neck of the clubs' self-serving bureaucracy... what happens to my reputation if I leave now and resurface for a job again around Xmas.... one bound to come up at Derby/Sheffield clubs/WBA/Swansea/Norwich/Villa. (He's long been touted as a future Villa boss by some Brummie locals).
442 was his modus operandi to pull Birmingham and Burton round on the pitch - a pragmatic strategy that was not for the purists. It seems he's started early with us from yesterday.
We should pray he doesn't go, because he has shown some balls to stand up to the top management; until they lift their standards, we will struggle as a club to move forward. Also, with his track record, if he can't get us towards the POs, not sure who can
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Post by captainmainwaring on Aug 19, 2018 17:44:41 GMT
He is obviously at odds with the recruitment team over signings. Someone said there was a rumour he wanted to walk after Brentford game. surely this isn't likely anytime soon?
Why would he be at odds with the recruitment team? |
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Post by Linx on Aug 19, 2018 17:45:45 GMT
Three games in? Shit bin FFS!
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Post by stokeson on Aug 19, 2018 17:47:23 GMT
Theres News .Fake News and Oatcake Facts.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 19, 2018 17:54:10 GMT
He’s a good manager, he will back himself to get us going. Yet he couldn't back himself in January to keep us up. |
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Post by pottermouth on Aug 19, 2018 17:55:59 GMT
Possible, of course it is. Odds - probably still long. We've seen situations play out in the media before like this, its rare they are settled in a moment. We don't know the extent of the tensions, and what he was promised on coming here. If was he promised help to shift the 10-12 deadwood/failures to create new squad places and start with a new culture, then we only offloaded one bar the loans that returned, i.e. Sobhi. If he was promised all his key players ready for Germany, he was failed then too. If he is seeking fast action to get another forward, he is not getting much help there either. The tension depends on what the mutual expectations were before we started. If I was Rowett, I would have thought about it though, wouldn't you? - what it means to stay vs walk - what my chances are of pulling Stoke round with the millstone around my neck of the clubs' self-serving bureaucracy... what happens to my reputation if I leave now and resurface for a job again around Xmas.... one bound to come up at Derby/Sheffield clubs/WBA/Swansea/Norwich/Villa. (He's long been touted as a future Villa boss by some Brummie locals). 442 was his modus operandi to pull Birmingham and Burton round on the pitch - a pragmatic strategy that was not for the purists. It seems he's started early with us from yesterday. We should pray he doesn't go, because he has shown some balls to stand up to the top management; until they lift their standards, we will struggle as a club to move forward. Also, with his track record, if he can't get us towards the POs, not sure who can I doubt very much he was even close to resigning after Brentford game. However, if things continue to go array until Christmas then he will be another past fixture as the fans will demand he be gone. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 19, 2018 18:05:30 GMT
He'd be a laughing stock if he walked.
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Post by tony1234 on Aug 19, 2018 18:12:18 GMT
Possible, of course it is. Odds - probably still long. We've seen situations play out in the media before like this, its rare they are settled in a moment. We don't know the extent of the tensions, and what he was promised on coming here. If was he promised help to shift the 10-12 deadwood/failures to create new squad places and start with a new culture, then we only offloaded one bar the loans that returned, i.e. Sobhi. If he was promised all his key players ready for Germany, he was failed then too. If he is seeking fast action to get another forward, he is not getting much help there either. The tension depends on what the mutual expectations were before we started. If I was Rowett, I would have thought about it though, wouldn't you? - what it means to stay vs walk - what my chances are of pulling Stoke round with the millstone around my neck of the clubs' self-serving bureaucracy... what happens to my reputation if I leave now and resurface for a job again around Xmas.... one bound to come up at Derby/Sheffield clubs/WBA/Swansea/Norwich/Villa. (He's long been touted as a future Villa boss by some Brummie locals). 442 was his modus operandi to pull Birmingham and Burton round on the pitch - a pragmatic strategy that was not for the purists. It seems he's started early with us from yesterday. We should pray he doesn't go, because he has shown some balls to stand up to the top management; until they lift their standards, we will struggle as a club to move forward. Also, with his track record, if he can't get us towards the POs, not sure who can I doubt very much he was even close to resigning after Brentford game. However, if things continue to go array until Christmas then he will be another past fixture as the fans will demand he be gone. Agree - way too soon atm. We don't know whats going on back stage. In one extreme, everyone simply accepts that this is going to be a long haul back In the other extreme, Rowett was promised many things and they've not been delivered and he is furious and intolerant of it. You'd expect there to always be some tension. We just don't know, but am getting no indication like you its in anyone's interests here and now. Still many obvious things to try and improve. I just think our system might take a turn for the "pragmatic" for a few weeks now! |
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 19, 2018 18:28:56 GMT
He'd be a laughing stock if he walked. The very idea is laughable. Has there ever been a precedent in the history of the game of a manager quitting after 3 games? He'd never get another job, who could trust him? |
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Post by Dingdangdoo on Aug 19, 2018 18:31:22 GMT
He is obviously at odds with the recruitment team over signings. Someone said there was a rumour he wanted to walk after Brentford game. surely this isn't likely anytime soon? How so ‘obviously’? Very few managers get every player they want Gossip a la Clive Clarke needs perspective |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 19, 2018 18:35:00 GMT
He'd be a laughing stock if he walked. Indeed and I'd have no sympathy with him but what a fucking comment it would be on how the club is run if he did. I am the least ITK in the world but someone I know who does have some genuine contacts told me today, 'at the very least' that there was a major pre Brentford strop. It is not a happy camp. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 19, 2018 18:37:34 GMT
He'd be a laughing stock if he walked. Indeed and I'd have no sympathy with him but what a fucking comment it would be on how the club is run if he did. I am the least ITK in the world but someone I know who does have some genuine contacts told me today, 'at the very least' that there was a major pre Brentford strop. It is not a happy camp. Is that why the players aren't playing for him? He thinks they are shit...they think he's shit? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 19, 2018 18:37:38 GMT
He'd be a laughing stock if he walked. Indeed and I'd have no sympathy with him but what a fucking comment it would be on how the club is run if he did. I am the least ITK in the world but someone I know who does have some genuine contacts told me today, 'at the very least' that there was a major pre Brentford strop. It is not a happy camp. The overwhelming feeling is one of an unhappy camp isn't it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2018 18:37:58 GMT
He’s a good manager, he will back himself to get us going. He is but i think people need to realise it won't happen overnight. It doesn’t really matter too much what the fans on this messageboard think about him, Coates will stick with his man for this season at the very least and I’m sure that given time, Rowett will turn things around and the attitude on here will change. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 19, 2018 18:40:27 GMT
Indeed and I'd have no sympathy with him but what a fucking comment it would be on how the club is run if he did. I am the least ITK in the world but someone I know who does have some genuine contacts told me today, 'at the very least' that there was a major pre Brentford strop. It is not a happy camp. He thinks they are shit...they think he's shit? Yep. And they're both right! |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 19, 2018 18:41:32 GMT
Indeed and I'd have no sympathy with him but what a fucking comment it would be on how the club is run if he did. I am the least ITK in the world but someone I know who does have some genuine contacts told me today, 'at the very least' that there was a major pre Brentford strop. It is not a happy camp. The overwhelming feeling is one of an unhappy camp isn't it. Yeah, it looks rotten. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 19, 2018 18:42:06 GMT
Three shit games in? Bin FFS! |
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 19, 2018 18:50:44 GMT
"Someone said there was a rumour he wanted to walk after Brentford game." 'Someone said'??? and it was just a rumour that "someone" said it anyway!!!.....Brilliant!  |
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Aug 19, 2018 18:50:51 GMT
There’s no chance of it happening.
I thought he looked very despondent in his interview after the match yesterday though. He seems to think it’s a lack of confidence issue with the players. And it sounded as if he was just after a hit and hope way of getting a few points on board which will in turn miraculously lift the spirits.
You can be sure he will have put across a few home truths to the players but thats not going to raise confidence either is it? He is clealy very peeved with the school boy error defending.
It’s a much bigger task than he imagined. If he’s at odds with the board over signings it’s not going to help the atmosphere either. In one way the sooner the transfer window closes the better.
I’ve got some sympathy for him in terms of what he’s inherited. But on the other hand, we should have a much clearer plan on how to move forward than what it currently seems to be. I.e trial and error in the hope that something just drops.
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Post by Linx on Aug 19, 2018 18:53:49 GMT
Three shit games in? Bin FFS! Bugger off, Rob😜 |
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