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Post by ashleyscfc on Jul 15, 2018 19:46:19 GMT
He's said...
On Harry Wilson and other transfers (11/07/18):
"I think what’s frustrating at this point is that we’ve been edging nearer for two weeks and then every day it feels like another day when it hasn’t happened"
When asked about transfers (14/07/18):
“I’ll leave that to the guys and I’ll just keep knocking on their doors every five minutes asking, ‘Have we got him, have we got him?’ They’ll probably get fed up with me but that’s how it works.”
On going to Germany (15/07/18):
"We would have hoped to have been in a position where we could have brought a few more players with us but we’ve got to be patient on that front and patient with that aspect of recruitment."
On playing with no wingers (18/07/18):
“It’s easy for me to stand here as a manager and say we need players,” said Rowett.
“We are working hard to get players in but what I would say is that we need to try to speed that up if possible.
“For me as a manager, the quicker we can get those players in to work with them the better.
“We are playing games with no real width in the team and no real wide players who can take players on one-v-one because of the nature of it.
On needing to bring in new players and wanting to change the dynamic of the group (28/07/18)
“I know the importance of getting your group together quickly and I’ve said that right from day one. You want the group together as quickly as you possibly can and unfortunately we haven’t quite been able to do that."
“But I think sometimes when you’ve been a team that’s dropped down a division you have to change things quickly and you have to change the dynamic of that group otherwise that hangover can continue into the season."
It says it all when Yarmolenko could be going to West Ham, which releases a player to palace, which releases Townsend to castle and Ritchie to us. That should of been us at the top of the pyramid. Instead mis-management and lack of ambition strikes again.
Rowett expects results, great to see him putting them under public pressure.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 15, 2018 19:49:54 GMT
Is it the pizza boys, or is it the bloke who’s actually in charge?
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jul 15, 2018 19:54:02 GMT
From another post
After the last 18 months (at least) I can understand supporters current frustration. I am one of the biggest critics of Scholes, Cartwright and the supposed recruitment policy plus it’s effective implementation.
However I would say be patient and wait to comment on such after the transfer/loan window closes which I believe “all” options shut down on the 31st August
My personal stance is quite simple: I “expect” that the club will do all in its power to secure promotion. No if’s no but’s, anything else will be failure
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jul 15, 2018 19:56:03 GMT
I always had Rowett down as a pretty switched on kinda guy, if he's Sussed these two chancers out already, he's more switched on than I thought. I reckon this could get kinda bumpy kinda quick. Go on Gary lad, shown them up for exactly what they are.
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Post by baystokie on Jul 15, 2018 20:08:34 GMT
I always had Rowett down as a pretty switched on kinda guy, if he's Sussed these two chancers out already, he's more switched on than I thought. I reckon this could get kinda bumpy kinda quick. Go on Gary lad, shown them up for exactly what they are. As usual, opinions based on knowing SFA about the situation. The situation could be as you say OR the exact opposite but then we fans never let the facts (or distinct lack of them) get in the way on having a swing at someone. There MUST be somebody to blame for things not panning out as we think they should  |
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Post by Sfance on Jul 15, 2018 20:09:09 GMT
I think he’s playing his cards, such as they are, very well. He’s making it clear where the bottleneck is and Coates has to be careful or word will be out that it’s not a good idea to come be manager at Stoke.
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Post by tony1234 on Jul 15, 2018 20:11:18 GMT
I'd imagine he has. While the comments he made look inoccuous, I think that they are quite pointed given he felt the need to make them.
Rowett made 8 signings at Derby in a year. He knows the process of signing a player, that's for sure. (https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gary-rowett-derby-signings-graded-1377576).
Ultimately, the window of opportunity to start getting a new manager was probably 5th May (day of relegation) - in time for the opening of the window on the 17th May
We probably expected to need 8+ signings between then and, ideally, the start of pre-season training just gone. (GK, CB, CMx2, WAFx3, CFx2). The ultimate deadline is August 9th, 5pm.
Ultimately that's 3 months so we needed to be be signing players at a rate of 2.5-3 players a month from May which means ideally we would have signed 6-7 by now.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 15, 2018 20:12:41 GMT
Is it the pizza boys, or is it the bloke who’s actually in charge? On the basis that there's at least 13M available for a winger, Rob, if we don't get a decent one or one the manager wants I'd say the bloke in charge's only crime is not sacking the feckless tosspots in his employ. |
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Post by doitforfrank on Jul 15, 2018 20:18:39 GMT
Not exactly hard to suss out that pair of wasters though is it? I just hope GR doesn't let it get to him and chuck his toys. Otherwise we may have another season of disaster
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 20:25:45 GMT
To state the well used phrase "Nothing wrong with the process"
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Post by werrington on Jul 15, 2018 20:25:52 GMT
Are we just forgetting we’ve got Allen and Bauer on long term contracts when we all expected them to leave ....that was superb business and two players crucial to us
Those along with Etobo Federici and Afobe says it’s quite a good start to our summer but still plenty to do
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Post by realstokebloke on Jul 15, 2018 20:34:10 GMT
I always had Rowett down as a pretty switched on kinda guy, if he's Sussed these two chancers out already, he's more switched on than I thought. I reckon this could get kinda bumpy kinda quick. Go on Gary lad, shown them up for exactly what they are.
Time taken to get there aside, he certainly seems to (& arguably needs to) be lumping whatever blame there is already onto their teflon coated slopey shoulders.
And yes, that ongoing dynamic between the three of them could get quite tasty. Trouble with that is, he also knows they have got away with murder under / alongside the last 'management' team.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 15, 2018 20:37:18 GMT
Is it the pizza boys, or is it the bloke who’s actually in charge? On the basis that there's at least 13M available for a winger, Rob, if we don't get a decent one or one the manager wants I'd say the bloke in charge's only crime is not sacking the feckless tosspots in his employ. Who’s orders are said tosspots acting on when it comes to negotiations, Sheiky? Rowett’s talked about the disconnect between him wanting players in ‘yesterday’ and the other members of the transfer team ‘wanting the best deals’. Are we to believe that the Coates family has given carte blanche with the credit card and Scholes and the boys are enforcing frugality through their own bizarre Puritanism? I’ve no argument with the notion than Scholes and Carto are lucky to be in a job, but there’s one bloke controlling the purse strings ultimately. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 20:37:44 GMT
Are we just forgetting we’ve got Allen and Bauer on long term contracts when we all expected them to leave ....that was superb business and two players crucial to us Those along with Etobo Federici and Afobe says it’s quite a good start to our summer but still plenty to do Not a good argument sorry. Alan and Bauer have signed increased salaries. If a bigger club comes in for them they could still leave. Anybody offered a substantial increase in wages for doing the same job is going to take it with a long term contract. A fool would turn it down. If a player turns down an offer from a big club and then signs a bigger deal At Stoke I would be impressed but that is not happening. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 20:39:54 GMT
Are we just forgetting we’ve got Allen and Bauer on long term contracts when we all expected them to leave ....that was superb business and two players crucial to us Those along with Etobo Federici and Afobe says it’s quite a good start to our summer but still plenty to do Not a good argument sorry. Alan and Bauer have signed increased salaries. If a bigger club comes in for them they could still leave. Anybody offered a substantial increase in wages for doing the same job is going to take it with a long term contract. A fool would turn it down. If a player turns down an offer from a big club and then signs a bigger deal At Stoke I would be impressed but that is not happening. So do you disagree that getting two players who are plenty good enough to play at the level we've just come from to re-sign is really good business? |
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Post by doitforfrank on Jul 15, 2018 20:41:13 GMT
Are we just forgetting we’ve got Allen and Bauer on long term contracts when we all expected them to leave ....that was superb business and two players crucial to us Those along with Etobo Federici and Afobe says it’s quite a good start to our summer but still plenty to do More apologist talk. Scholes and Cartwright got us in this mess, the least they can do is get us back up there. One or both should have been jettisoned after the swansea game. I for one won't forgive them their almighty fuck up. |
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Post by werrington on Jul 15, 2018 20:42:38 GMT
Are we just forgetting we’ve got Allen and Bauer on long term contracts when we all expected them to leave ....that was superb business and two players crucial to us Those along with Etobo Federici and Afobe says it’s quite a good start to our summer but still plenty to do Not a good argument sorry. Alan and Bauer have signed increased salaries. If a bigger club comes in for them they could still leave. Anybody offered a substantial increase in wages for doing the same job is going to take it with a long term contract. A fool would turn it down. If a player turns down an offer from a big club and then signs a bigger deal At Stoke I would be impressed but that is not happening. In your opinion of course and that argument could get used for every player at every club ....Allen in particular would of attracted huge interest from premiership clubs The club have just tied down two superb players and you put a negative on it |
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Post by werrington on Jul 15, 2018 20:43:36 GMT
Are we just forgetting we’ve got Allen and Bauer on long term contracts when we all expected them to leave ....that was superb business and two players crucial to us Those along with Etobo Federici and Afobe says it’s quite a good start to our summer but still plenty to do More apologist talk. Scholes and Cartwright got us in this mess, the least they can do is get us back up there. One or both should have been jettisoned after the swansea game. I for one won't forgive them their almighty fuck up. Go fuck yourself ...I’m no apologist I’d say getting those two on long term contracts is vital to us getting back which makes your point a bit confusing |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 20:44:08 GMT
Not a good argument sorry. Alan and Bauer have signed increased salaries. If a bigger club comes in for them they could still leave. Anybody offered a substantial increase in wages for doing the same job is going to take it with a long term contract. A fool would turn it down. If a player turns down an offer from a big club and then signs a bigger deal At Stoke I would be impressed but that is not happening. In your opinion of course and that argument could get used for every player at every club ....Allen in particular would of attracted huge interest from premiership clubs The club have just tied down two superb players and you put a negative on it Of all the signings we make this summer those two will be right up there as the two most important I reckon. |
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Post by march4 on Jul 15, 2018 20:47:43 GMT
It is pretty clear that there still need to be changes at the top of the club’s employees.
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Post by questionable on Jul 15, 2018 20:49:41 GMT
Prior to signing his contract he should have had a look on this site to get a clue how much the pair of them are despised.
I mentioned to a friend who in the past had a lot to do with Leek Town and when I mentioned that Cartwright was working for Stoke he absolutely pissed himself laughing let alone in any capacity in football.
He asked me on numerous occasions if I was joking.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jul 15, 2018 21:00:07 GMT
Personally i don't think there are amy lines to read between on this one.
In his interview the other day, Rowett said he wasn't the one that does the paperwork as it were, he just highlights the players and that transfers are a frustrating game in general at any non-Prem side and even if there's a likely deal you have to wait for selling clubs to bring players in before they sell, get people to come in to see them etc. i.e. normal transfer stuff. He also said he'd wanted more in but it's just the way transfers work and you have to wait for the players to play ball but it's worth it if they're worth waiting for.
Basically, all he's said here as well but in different vocab. Think we're finding stuff that isn't there meself
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 15, 2018 21:00:21 GMT
On the basis that there's at least 13M available for a winger, Rob, if we don't get a decent one or one the manager wants I'd say the bloke in charge's only crime is not sacking the feckless tosspots in his employ. Who’s orders are said tosspots acting on when it comes to negotiations, Sheiky? Rowett’s talked about the disconnect between him wanting players in ‘yesterday’ and the other members of the transfer team ‘wanting the best deals’. Are we to believe that the Coates family has given carte blanche with the credit card and Scholes and the boys are enforcing frugality through their own bizarre Puritanism? I’ve no argument with the notion than Scholes and Carto are lucky to be in a job, but there’s one bloke controlling the purse strings ultimately. I dunno, Rob. All three were eager to blame Hughes for EVERYTHING 3 months ago. The main thing with 'the process' from Cotes, Teflon and Slopey's point of view seems to be none of them are ever to blame! When you're spending 17M on idiots like Wimmer, the purse strings to me don't seem to be the problem. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 21:06:03 GMT
Oh yes he's got them pegged. He knows they don't want a game of fives and threes when they say Dominoes.
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Post by Gods on Jul 15, 2018 21:12:52 GMT
Are we just forgetting we’ve got Allen and Bauer on long term contracts when we all expected them to leave ....that was superb business and two players crucial to us Those along with Etobo Federici and Afobe says it’s quite a good start to our summer but still plenty to do This. Team effort needed here , no us and them , not the coach getting his excuses in early. We have relative riches of talent at this level, we need to complete the transfer business and make this season happen. |
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Post by doitforfrank on Jul 15, 2018 21:34:06 GMT
More apologist talk. Scholes and Cartwright got us in this mess, the least they can do is get us back up there. One or both should have been jettisoned after the swansea game. I for one won't forgive them their almighty fuck up. Go fuck yourself ...I’m no apologist I’d say getting those two on long term contracts is vital to us getting back which makes your point a bit confusing Correct me if I'm wrong, but both players were already under contract. All we've done at the moment is given them a pay rise to reward them for relegation. Unless any club came in and matched Stokes valuation for the players, they had no right to play for any other club. I'll grant you that signing Afobe and Etobe are a statement of intent Federici is a nothing signing, however that may be equalled out by outgoings and why has it taken over 2 years to get the players we desperately needed? I'm desperate for us to get back where we should be AND think we will. But I don't trust the gruesome twosome as far as I could throw them. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 15, 2018 21:37:42 GMT
Go fuck yourself ...I’m no apologist I’d say getting those two on long term contracts is vital to us getting back which makes your point a bit confusing Correct me if I'm wrong, but both players were already under contract. All we've done at the moment is given them a pay rise to reward them for relegation. Unless any club came in and matched Stokes valuation for the players, they had no right to play for any other club. I'll grant you that signing Afobe and Etobe are a statement of intent Federici is a nothing signing, however that may be equalled out by outgoings and why has it taken over 2 years to get the players we desperately needed? I'm desperate for us to get back where we should be AND think we will. But I don't trust the gruesome twosome as far as I could throw them. And we haven't seen Etebo in a Stoke shirt yet. It's way too soon to hail his transfer yet. |
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 15, 2018 21:42:56 GMT
Who’s orders are said tosspots acting on when it comes to negotiations, Sheiky? Rowett’s talked about the disconnect between him wanting players in ‘yesterday’ and the other members of the transfer team ‘wanting the best deals’. Are we to believe that the Coates family has given carte blanche with the credit card and Scholes and the boys are enforcing frugality through their own bizarre Puritanism? I’ve no argument with the notion than Scholes and Carto are lucky to be in a job, but there’s one bloke controlling the purse strings ultimately. I dunno, Rob. All three were eager to blame Hughes for EVERYTHING 3 months ago. The main thing with 'the process' from Cotes, Teflon and Slopey's point of view seems to be none of them are ever to blame! When you're spending 17M on idiots like Wimmer, the purse strings to me don't seem to be the problem. Nothing wrong with the process of course, unless of course £50 million pissed up the wall is not considered a problem, problem is it is what relegated us to me that is one hell of a problem, can't see what all the fuss is about now that is a massive problem. |
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Post by salopstick on Jul 15, 2018 21:43:40 GMT
Are we just forgetting we’ve got Allen and Bauer on long term contracts when we all expected them to leave ....that was superb business and two players crucial to us Those along with Etobo Federici and Afobe says it’s quite a good start to our summer but still plenty to do Exactly mate. Allen and Bauer in the championship is like signing two 10£m+ players. |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jul 15, 2018 21:52:22 GMT
He's said... On Harry Wilson and other transfers (11/07/18): "I think what’s frustrating at this point is that we’ve been edging nearer for two weeks and then every day it feels like another day when it hasn’t happened" When asked about transfers (14/07/18): “I’ll leave that to the guys and I’ll just keep knocking on their doors every five minutes asking, ‘Have we got him, have we got him?’ They’ll probably get fed up with me but that’s how it works.” On going to Germany (15/07/18): "We would have hoped to have been in a position where we could have brought a few more players with us but we’ve got to be patient on that front and patient with that aspect of recruitment." It says it all when Yarmolenko could be going to West Ham, which releases a player to palace, which releases Townsend to castle and Ritchie to us. That should of been us at the top of the pyramid. Instead mis-management and lack of ambition strikes again. Rowett expects results, great to see him putting them under public pressure. Or maybe he's just saying what countless managers at other clubs are saying. It's the same for most clubs at this time of year. |
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