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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 16:47:56 GMT
VAR strikes again, that senagalese diver should be flogged/booked
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Post by Northy on Jun 19, 2018 17:25:38 GMT
VAR strikes again, that senagalese diver should be flogged/booked Immediately banned for the rest of the world cup, stop it straight away. Victor Moses would be banned for life after his first match showing
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Post by richardparker on Jun 19, 2018 17:32:08 GMT
Football had been ruined well before VAR. VAR used like it is so far in this World Cup will make the game a bigger joke than it already is.
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Post by liam007 on Jun 19, 2018 19:00:03 GMT
Got to be honest i'm really struggling to get into this world cup so far.Games kicking off at 1pm and missing them is really not helping,infact the 4pm games i only get to see the last 30 minutes.Coupled with VAR,wich i totally detest.Enjoyed the Portugal/Spain game and England last night.Only just started the 2nd round of group games but struggling to feel that world cup feeling at the moment.
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Post by mattador78 on Jun 19, 2018 19:19:30 GMT
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Post by liam007 on Jun 19, 2018 19:30:57 GMT
Another VAR moment,probably correct but that was nowhere more a penalty than both on Kane last night.Hate the inconsitency of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 19:32:15 GMT
How to use VAR vol 2.
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 19, 2018 22:12:05 GMT
By the same token I see no reason to believe they'd have definitely beaten us if that goal had been disallowed. I didn't think there was that much between the teams and we were all over them at the end. I never said we were robbed, we'll never know how the game would've panned out. All I've said is you've no right to be so certain. I'm certain. In the first half we hardly got out of our own half and like everyone else seemed to have one clear intention... hack Maradona. And like everyone else it didn't work. The handball was a convenient crutch we could lean on to make us feel better. In reality we were never going win it. That's all very well, but I am right. I can prove it because I know, plus I read it in the tea-leaves. See, where you're going wrong is you're reading Oz tea-leaves and you've forgotten to allow for the fact that you need to stir them the other way south of the Equator. Rookie mistake that, mate.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 19, 2018 23:19:52 GMT
I'm certain. In the first half we hardly got out of our own half and like everyone else seemed to have one clear intention... hack Maradona. And like everyone else it didn't work. The handball was a convenient crutch we could lean on to make us feel better. In reality we were never going win it. That's all very well, but I am right. I can prove it because I know, plus I read it in the tea-leaves. See, where you're going wrong is you're reading Oz tea-leaves and you've forgotten to allow for the fact that you need to stir them the other way south of the Equator. Rookie mistake that, mate. None of that. During that game I lived in Shelton. So there. Also how the fuck could anyone say we'd have beaten Argentina? Look at them and look at us. Look at the story of that game.
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 20, 2018 4:38:16 GMT
That's all very well, but I am right. I can prove it because I know, plus I read it in the tea-leaves. See, where you're going wrong is you're reading Oz tea-leaves and you've forgotten to allow for the fact that you need to stir them the other way south of the Equator. Rookie mistake that, mate. None of that. During that game I lived in Shelton. So there. Also how the fuck could anyone say we'd have beaten Argentina? Look at them and look at us. Look at the story of that game. Oh-ho, Shelton is it? College boy?
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Post by ElworthPotter on Jun 20, 2018 6:16:58 GMT
Got to be honest i'm really struggling to get into this world cup so far.Games kicking off at 1pm and missing them is really not helping,infact the 4pm games i only get to see the last 30 minutes.Coupled with VAR,wich i totally detest.Enjoyed the Portugal/Spain game and England last night.Only just started the 2nd round of group games but struggling to feel that world cup feeling at the moment. Don’t understand how you can be struggling to get into it! I think the standard has been excellent on the whole and VAR has contributed positively to more correct decisions leading to more goals. Plenty of upsets in the opening round as well!
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 20, 2018 7:00:00 GMT
None of that. During that game I lived in Shelton. So there. Also how the fuck could anyone say we'd have beaten Argentina? Look at them and look at us. Look at the story of that game. Oh-ho, Shelton is it? College boy? College?
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 20, 2018 14:41:43 GMT
Oh-ho, Shelton is it? College boy? College? Isn't that where the the old poly was? Now uni?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 19:23:50 GMT
Very good call in the Iran - Spain game
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Post by boothenboy75 on Jun 20, 2018 19:25:31 GMT
Very good call in the Iran - Spain game It was but the linesman had already flagged for it, he did as soon as the ball hit the net.
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Post by adi on Jun 20, 2018 19:39:32 GMT
Very good call in the Iran - Spain game Agreed. Good call
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 20, 2018 20:06:39 GMT
I just cant fucking hack it. Even when it's right its fucking 'wrong'.
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Post by lordb on Jun 20, 2018 20:08:58 GMT
VAR killed the football star?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 20, 2018 20:20:13 GMT
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Post by M on Jun 20, 2018 20:28:57 GMT
His position would probably change if it was England that it went against... In it's current guise it's shit, but they need to make it work so that it can be developed. It's only enhanced tennis, rugby and cricket. I'd personally be a fan of a model similar to cricket where the game plays, it's not involved but each team is allowed a finite amount of reviews, like maybe only one but you retain that if your review was proven correct. Stick it on the big screen so the fans can get involved in it and have it done with. You're losing only a few minutes in the game max.
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 20, 2018 20:38:41 GMT
I must admit although I'm still pretty sceptical, I'm coming round to it a bit this tournament. The decisions have been fairly quick and I think for the most part, correct, albeit after a ropy start. The argument that it ruins the "romance" isn't sustainable as a principle if you agree that the game should have rules. (Also for every Iran equaliser there's a Henry handball or a Lampard "ghost goal")
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 20, 2018 23:29:37 GMT
Isn't that where the the old poly was? Now uni? Yes. But I was detached from all that
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 21, 2018 5:04:57 GMT
Isn't that where the the old poly was? Now uni? Yes. But I was detached from all that What, education. I'm not surprised...
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 21, 2018 5:07:00 GMT
Yes. But I was detached from all that What, education. I'm not surprised... 😀😀😀
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Post by MilanStokie on Jun 21, 2018 7:09:06 GMT
His position would probably change if it was England that it went against... In it's current guise it's shit, but they need to make it work so that it can be developed. It's only enhanced tennis, rugby and cricket. I'd personally be a fan of a model similar to cricket where the game plays, it's not involved but each team is allowed a finite amount of reviews, like maybe only one but you retain that if your review was proven correct. Stick it on the big screen so the fans can get involved in it and have it done with. You're losing only a few minutes in the game max. in theory it could work but how many do you give a team? 2? what happens if that team uses them for genuine reasons? and then a 3rd situation comes along that is an absolute howler. tough luck? I just can't be doing with it.
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Post by M on Jun 21, 2018 8:29:57 GMT
His position would probably change if it was England that it went against... In it's current guise it's shit, but they need to make it work so that it can be developed. It's only enhanced tennis, rugby and cricket. I'd personally be a fan of a model similar to cricket where the game plays, it's not involved but each team is allowed a finite amount of reviews, like maybe only one but you retain that if your review was proven correct. Stick it on the big screen so the fans can get involved in it and have it done with. You're losing only a few minutes in the game max. in theory it could work but how many do you give a team? 2? what happens if that team uses them for genuine reasons? and then a 3rd situation comes along that is an absolute howler. tough luck? I just can't be doing with it. Cricket give three reviews but their sport is somewhat more susceptible to error because the margin of error of a heavy ball flying at 90mph+ could be out if pitching in one place and not out if pitching only mm away. We don't want to deviate away from the ref controlling the game and we also don't want to have that many reviews that the game is stopping every few minutes. The only way I'd agree with having something like three reviews is if a review could be used for anything (potential foul regardless of being dangerous) but I think it would stop the game too much. I was thinking something timed as well. So if a review was used there was a window of time that could be rolled back like say 60 seconds of the game. That way it stops situations where someone claims a throw in but lets it sly and then complains 5 minutes later because they conceded. The ref then has a 60 second window to roll back any given angle (pre-set ones) and he gets on the blower saying what angle he wants to view etc. I think one review would be sound, maybe two at a push but the idea is that they use them wisely. Why complain about a throw in where they could save it for a potential foul on the edge of the box? So the pressure is on the captain to use it wisely. EDIT. And naturally if they use a review and the review was then shown to be a correct review because the decision was given to them they keep their review. That way they could review 5 things in a match because it was proven the ref/linesman missed something. If they review something that is overturned, they've lost it and crack in with nothing but the will of the ref.
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Post by AlliG on Jun 21, 2018 10:01:35 GMT
While I can sort of understand why they won't show replays of contentious incidents in the ground (which presumably would include VAR referrals), I can't understand why the TV broadcasters don't appear to be allowed to show replays while the VAR is being reviewed.
Part of the "fun" when watching the NFL, cricket or rugby is watching the replays and trying to make your own decision before the VAR decision is made.
A split screen showing people standing around, scratching their heads and drinking water is dull and tedious and adds nothing.
If we are going to have VAR at least make it appear to be open and above board.
I know FIFA (and UEFA & the FA) have an almost Stalinist addiction to secrecy, but in respect of VAR there is no reason whatsoever to hide the process away.
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Post by bigcashprizes on Jun 21, 2018 12:37:37 GMT
Never intentional that one. Getting on my pips this VAR is now
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Post by elgreco on Jun 21, 2018 12:39:41 GMT
Never intentional that one. Getting on my pips this VAR is now Was just about to post the same. Never a pen and this format is starting to become farcical. Pens will outnumber goals scored from open play in tournaments at this rate.
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Post by Absolution on Jun 21, 2018 12:39:50 GMT
Never intentional that one. Getting on my pips this VAR is now Not a penalty in my opinion.
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