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Post by Pugsley on Jun 16, 2018 13:46:03 GMT
Argies hassling the referee, asking for VAR. It's the group stage so imagine what it's going to be like in the knockouts?
Crowds in the stadium and watching on TV haven't a clue what is going on.
Even the Icelanders are at it now...
Just not needed.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 16, 2018 13:48:54 GMT
I don't like it one bit. You just know it's going to be a VAR decision that'll send England home as well.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 16, 2018 13:50:34 GMT
I don't like it one bit. You just know it's going to be a VAR decision that'll send England home as well. What? You mean a VAR decision to award us a last minute penalty in the final which wins us the game to send us home deliriously happy?
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Jun 16, 2018 13:51:02 GMT
Sure, but it's inevitable, just like the other sports that have been ruined by video reviews--except horse racing I suppose.
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Post by crowey on Jun 16, 2018 13:52:54 GMT
... load o bollocks. Disrupts everything
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Jun 16, 2018 13:54:08 GMT
VAR should only be used to verify whether the alleged incident occured in the penalty area , everything else is subject to interpretation.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Jun 16, 2018 13:55:03 GMT
Argies hassling the referee, asking for VAR. It's the group stage so imagine what it's going to be like in the knockouts? Crowds in the stadium and watching on TV haven't a clue what is going on. Even the Icelanders are at it now... Just not needed. Football has been ruined by cheats. That's part of the reason VAR is needed.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 16, 2018 13:56:36 GMT
I don't like it one bit. You just know it's going to be a VAR decision that'll send England home as well. Thinking exactly that as well.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 16, 2018 14:01:06 GMT
Agree - waste of time. It doesn't get rid of controversial decisions it just makes slower controversial decisions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 14:03:50 GMT
I don't like it one bit. You just know it's going to be a VAR decision that'll send England home as well. Was thinking just that when I was watching the France v Australia game earlier.
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Post by kustokie on Jun 16, 2018 14:05:16 GMT
Agree - waste of time. It doesn't get rid of controversial decisions it just makes slower controversial decisions. Examples, please?
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Post by Absolution on Jun 16, 2018 14:07:32 GMT
It’s abysmal, and every bit as open to incompetence/corruption as your standard Martin Atkinson performance.
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Post by kustokie on Jun 16, 2018 14:12:42 GMT
It’s abysmal, and every bit as open to incompetence/corruption as your standard Martin Atkinson performance. Always a silver lining. Now we’ve dropped down a division we have a whole new set of refs we can blame!
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Post by Absolution on Jun 16, 2018 14:32:24 GMT
It’s abysmal, and every bit as open to incompetence/corruption as your standard Martin Atkinson performance. Always a silver lining. Now we’ve dropped down a division we have a whole new set of refs we can blame! We’re the big boys now. Hopefully we’ll get every decision going.
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Post by DodgyDino on Jun 16, 2018 14:37:56 GMT
Personally I agree with it, it may slow the game a little but all I want is the correct end decision to be made and hopefully stop all the cheating..... surely that aint a bad thing
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 16, 2018 14:38:05 GMT
If a VAR decision sends England home, won’t that mean it was probably the right decision?
After all the pissing and moaning about the disallowed goals against Argentina and Portugal, the Rooney red card, the Lampard ‘goal’, I’d have thought people would be happy about something designed to reduce the shaftings?
I was worried it’d slow the games down after how it was used in the FA Cup but I’ve enjoyed the games so far today and the penalty calls in the France/Aus game were both spot on.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 16, 2018 14:47:13 GMT
All that football supporters want is to kill off cheating and get rid of the ridiculous number of penalties and free kicks that break up and ruin the modern game.
VAR is doing nothing to solve either of these problems. The only way to get to the heart of it is to issue whole tournament bans for anything that looks like a dive, and to be tougher on niggly defending, while being more lenient to proper tackling.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 16, 2018 14:50:35 GMT
All that football supporters want is to kill off cheating and get rid of the ridiculous number of penalties and free kicks that break up and ruin the modern game. VAR is doing nothing to solve either of these problems. The only way to get to the heart of it is to issue whole tournament bans for anything that looks like a dive, and to be tougher on niggly defending, while being more lenient to proper tackling. If the penalties are penalties and the free kicks are free kicks, what’s the problem? What is ‘proper tackling’? What if something that ‘looks like a dive’ is actually a bloke falling over or actually a foul not perceptible to the referee on the only viewing he gets? Is that whole tournament ban still enforced then?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jun 16, 2018 15:00:21 GMT
If a VAR decision sends England home, won’t that mean it was probably the right decision? After all the pissing and moaning about the disallowed goals against Argentina and Portugal, the Rooney red card, the Lampard ‘goal’, I’d have thought people would be happy about something designed to reduce the shaftings? I was worried it’d slow the games down after how it was used in the FA Cup but I’ve enjoyed the games so far today and the penalty calls in the France/Aus game were both spot on. Think Argentina should have had a second penalty. What's the point in VAR if they are still missing things? I am in no way bitter because it's fucked my acca up, either!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 16, 2018 15:04:41 GMT
If a VAR decision sends England home, won’t that mean it was probably the right decision? After all the pissing and moaning about the disallowed goals against Argentina and Portugal, the Rooney red card, the Lampard ‘goal’, I’d have thought people would be happy about something designed to reduce the shaftings? I was worried it’d slow the games down after how it was used in the FA Cup but I’ve enjoyed the games so far today and the penalty calls in the France/Aus game were both spot on. Think Argentina should have had a second penalty. What's the point in VAR if they are still missing things? I am in no way bitter because it's fucked my acca up, either! It was a definite penalty that, yeah - bizarre that the ref didn't go to VAR for that, felt like he just bottled it.
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Post by prudhoe on Jun 16, 2018 15:07:04 GMT
Think back to every match you've seen Stoke lose because a dodgy decision screwed us over. You seriously saying you'd rather that, than wait a minute or 2 for the correct decision to be given? Pesonally id be willing to wait half an hour if it meant we didnt lose becuase of a wrong decision.
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Post by mrred on Jun 16, 2018 15:07:24 GMT
I just can't believe that in 2018 that this is the best implementation they can come up with. But this is Fifa...
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Post by claytonscrubs on Jun 16, 2018 15:08:15 GMT
Clattenburg looks and sounds a little camp.
As for VAR ....What a farce!!!
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jun 16, 2018 15:08:22 GMT
It's an absolute bag of arse.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 15:09:22 GMT
Think Argentina should have had a second penalty. What's the point in VAR if they are still missing things? I am in no way bitter because it's fucked my acca up, either! It was a definite penalty that, yeah - bizarre that the ref didn't go to VAR for that, felt like he just bottled it. And that's the problem. Unless the referee goes to VAR for every one of his decisions it's always going to be completely inconsistent.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 15:10:45 GMT
Think back to every match you've seen Stoke lose because a dodgy decision screwed us over. You seriously saying you'd rather that, than wait a minute or 2 for the correct decision to be given? Pesonally id be willing to wait half an hour if it meant we didnt lose becuase of a wrong decision. Trouble is the correct decision still isn't being made after the ref uses VAR. As seen earlier in the France game.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 15:14:44 GMT
Mayaswell get a fucking robot in instead of the ref.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 16, 2018 15:31:17 GMT
Think back to every match you've seen Stoke lose because a dodgy decision screwed us over. You seriously saying you'd rather that, than wait a minute or 2 for the correct decision to be given? Pesonally id be willing to wait half an hour if it meant we didnt lose becuase of a wrong decision. Trouble is the correct decision still isn't being made after the ref uses VAR. As seen earlier in the France game. Which decision specifically? Both of those penalties were penalties.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 15:35:12 GMT
Trouble is the correct decision still isn't being made after the ref uses VAR. As seen earlier in the France game. Which decision specifically? Both of those penalties were penalties. I didn't and still don't think that France's penalty was a penalty. I'm not convinced the defender didn't get a slight touch on the ball and I also don't believe there was any contact and Griezmann dived.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Jun 16, 2018 15:37:07 GMT
There aren't any rules for when and how it's used though, and that's the confusion.
I thought Argentina should have had a 2nd penalty when one of their players was clipped by the byline.
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