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Post by s8to on Apr 23, 2018 13:48:32 GMT
NO. The moment he was appointed I knew we were down. If he is still here next season,we could well do a Sunderland,he is that fucking bad,he makes the likes of Kamara and Ball look like good managers,to do that you have to be seriously fucking shit,which Lambert is. I too would like us to replace him in the summer and he will be damned by his record here but I don't think he is anywhere near as bad as you are making out. If he had been given a striker who could actually score he would I am sure scraped enough points to get to safety, at which point I would have said thanks and paid him off. ... And there lies the rub.. If when he came in he insisted on buying a striker (having apparently done such in depth research and reporting of the clubs plight at that time) why didn't he? In which case it must have gone along the lines of him being convinced to take the job and make do with what we had! In which case he is a 'YES' man, and clearly by his previous performance with Wolves in the Championship a plodder at best! His record (assuming we lose at the weekend) will be abysmal (less than 0.6 pts per game), and even with Hughes (at 0.9 pts per game) we could well have stayed up! Not that I am advocating Hughes was the right man either, just a comparison 12 games on...
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Apr 23, 2018 13:52:55 GMT
The possibility that he won't win another game this season, and we actually finish bottom of the league to boot will be the ultimate icing on the ultimate shit cake
Bizarre substitution yet again on Sunday & once again the team look completely and utterly lost.
Just please get the relegation sorted as soon as & put us out of our chuffing misery!
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 23, 2018 14:02:27 GMT
I too would like us to replace him in the summer and he will be damned by his record here but I don't think he is anywhere near as bad as you are making out. If he had been given a striker who could actually score he would I am sure scraped enough points to get to safety, at which point I would have said thanks and paid him off. ... And there lies the rub.. If when he came in he insisted on buying a striker (having apparently done such in depth research and reporting of the clubs plight at that time) why didn't he? In which case it must have gone along the lines of him being convinced to take the job and make do with what we had! In which case he is a 'YES' man, and clearly by his previous performance with Wolves in the Championship a plodder at best! His record (assuming we lose at the weekend) will be abysmal (less than 0.6 pts per game), and even with Hughes (at 0.9 pts per game) we could well have stayed up! Not that I am advocating Hughes was the right man either, just a comparison 12 games on... However Hughes record since he got to Southampton has been 0.33 per game so I don't get the posters on here who reckon we'd have been better off keeping him. He's hardly tearing up trees. A dodgy win against Wigan in the cup - followed by an "heroic" defeat to Arsenal, chucking away a two goal lead to an iffy Chelsea (against whom he's conceded FOURTEEN goals this season) and a non-event of a draw to Leicester (which Lambert only managed to achieve because England's #1 gifted them the equlaizer) - all with an arguably better squad. Lambert is clearly not the answer - but nor is the idea that Hughes would somehow have kept us up. If he'd stayed we'd probably have been mathematically relegated about three weeks ago.
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Post by superheroantonius on Apr 23, 2018 16:01:15 GMT
Hughes showed in his final game, that he couldn't have competed in league 1, never mind the prem
I am certain if hughes had stayed then we would have been relegated weeks ago and he would have taken us straight through the championship and into league 1
Lambert is miles more solid than hughes. But does that actually mean anything. Almost anyone is better than hughes. Who by the time he left had sadly, absolutely completed lost it.
Its difficult to judge lambert. He has improved on the zero effort, the players put in v coventry. But we havent scored enough goals to win enough games. But then in a league where the minimum level of striker to compete at the bottom is... Arnautovic, hernadez rodriguez rondon zaha rooney glen murray.. We dont even have anywhere near that. Rodriguez has 11 goals and Rondon 10 this season, which would make them superstars at stoke, and thats the level required to be bottom.
I think lambert has done okayish in difficult borderline impossible circumstances
I dont care, if he stays or goes
The most important thing is we sign a couple of decent strikers... Take your pick from will grigg, dwight gayle, jordan rhodes, oli watkins.. Anyone decent
I think lambert has shown, you can't really judge a manager, with no strikers, for what that is worth
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 16:16:25 GMT
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Post by therightside on Apr 23, 2018 16:27:20 GMT
Lambert may want to stay at Stoke, but his tactics, use of substitutions and results mean that he should be shown the exit door in early May. Dean Smith, currently doing a brilliant job at Brentford, is the man who could do very well at Stoke.
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Post by s8to on Apr 24, 2018 15:20:48 GMT
... And there lies the rub.. If when he came in he insisted on buying a striker (having apparently done such in depth research and reporting of the clubs plight at that time) why didn't he? In which case it must have gone along the lines of him being convinced to take the job and make do with what we had! In which case he is a 'YES' man, and clearly by his previous performance with Wolves in the Championship a plodder at best! His record (assuming we lose at the weekend) will be abysmal (less than 0.6 pts per game), and even with Hughes (at 0.9 pts per game) we could well have stayed up! Not that I am advocating Hughes was the right man either, just a comparison 12 games on... However Hughes record since he got to Southampton has been 0.33 per game so I don't get the posters on here who reckon we'd have been better off keeping him. He's hardly tearing up trees. A dodgy win against Wigan in the cup - followed by an "heroic" defeat to Arsenal, chucking away a two goal lead to an iffy Chelsea (against whom he's conceded FOURTEEN goals this season) and a non-event of a draw to Leicester (which Lambert only managed to achieve because England's #1 gifted them the equlaizer) - all with an arguably better squad. Lambert is clearly not the answer - but nor is the idea that Hughes would somehow have kept us up. If he'd stayed we'd probably have been mathematically relegated about three weeks ago. As I said I wasn't advocating Hughes was either...
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Post by thegift on Apr 24, 2018 15:28:06 GMT
Might change the thread title to:
"Does Lambert, Coates, & Cartwright have a clue what their doing"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 16:52:09 GMT
Lambert was in a no-win situation with his substitutions yesterday in my opinion. Johnson apparently felt a twinge in his groin so was replaced by Zouma. Diouf had to be replaced for his own sake and Campbell was the only forward on the bench, although Ramadan could have been an option. We needed another body in midfield as Allen & Badou were getting overrun 2nd half, so Ireland was introduced. Shaqiri should probably have been subbed as opposed to Bauer but I suppose Lambert thought that he was more likely to score than Bauer ? The response from the crowd would also have been interesting should he have subbed Shaqiri instead of Bauer. To conclude, I believe that it was not the substitutions which were baffling, but the selection of Johnson at right back instead of Bauer with Bauer being stuck out at left midfield in the first place which was strange. The guy is one big "no-win situation". How many must win games have we failed to win under him? Appalling
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Post by staffsvilla on Apr 24, 2018 17:48:52 GMT
I too would like us to replace him in the summer and he will be damned by his record here but I don't think he is anywhere near as bad as you are making out. Trust me he is !!!!!!!
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 24, 2018 19:36:25 GMT
I too would like us to replace him in the summer and he will be damned by his record here but I don't think he is anywhere near as bad as you are making out. Trust me he is !!!!!!! He's as bad as Hughes in fact he's a really really wank Tony Pulis.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 24, 2018 19:48:39 GMT
Might change the thread title to: "Does Lambert, Coates, & Cartwright have a clue what their doing" Did you write the banner
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 20:36:05 GMT
People laughed at me when I said PL was the worst manager in 40+ yrs at Stoke but he is and he's proving it every week.
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Post by thegift on Apr 24, 2018 21:20:26 GMT
Might change the thread title to: "Does Lambert, Coates, & Cartwright have a clue what their doing" Did you write the banner Unfortunately not!
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Post by Veritas on Apr 24, 2018 21:44:57 GMT
He's as bad as Hughes in fact he's a really really wank Tony Pulis. Now that really is an insult
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Post by thegift on Apr 24, 2018 21:52:49 GMT
He's as bad as Hughes in fact he's a really really wank Tony Pulis. Now that really is an insult Any english managers should be privileged to be in the same sentence as TP
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Post by Dresden_scfc on Apr 25, 2018 5:42:33 GMT
Now that really is an insult Any english managers should be privileged to be in the same sentence as TP Why should they be privilged, thats nonsense and also Lambert and Hughes are not English!
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Post by thegift on Apr 25, 2018 7:58:54 GMT
Any english managers should be privileged to be in the same sentence as TP Why should they be privilged, thats nonsense and also Lambert and Hughes are not English! I didn't say they were?
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