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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 19:51:10 GMT
Post by itsmorethanagame on Apr 1, 2018 19:51:10 GMT
Ok we know he's been very poor since he arrived. But is there something more to it with this one? To have an academy player on the bench before him suggests maybe so.18m, massive wages, been completely excluded seemingly from the match day squad.
What the hell is going on with this one? It's an even worse situation than with Berahinio which almost sounds impossible. With him we at least had warnings which we ignored but it hasn't come as a complete and utter shock. But with Wimmer, there was nothing to suggest he would be so unfit or unprofessional was there? Just wtf has happened with this one.
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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 19:58:20 GMT
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Post by Fred Merger on Apr 1, 2018 19:58:20 GMT
Its hard to believe that he cannot get into a matchday 18 when you have as many injuries that we had today unless he has a niggle himself.Makes you wonder if the club has already decided to move him on at a massive loss immediately this summer!
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Post by Gary Hackett on Apr 1, 2018 19:59:28 GMT
Totally unfit hence why he's been so shit.
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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 20:00:42 GMT
Post by thisfootballclub on Apr 1, 2018 20:00:42 GMT
It certainly ranks up there as incompetence of the highest order, how did his value rise several million while rotting in Spurs reserves?!! As has been suggested, it could be something as embarrassing as a misplaced 0 on the transfer submission!
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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 20:12:48 GMT
Post by spitthedog on Apr 1, 2018 20:12:48 GMT
Well it's one thing we can't hang on Lambert.....and if anyone remotely suggests PL should be giving him another chance I'm well and truly finished!!!
I'd rather have Andrew Davies!!!
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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 20:24:03 GMT
Post by itsmorethanagame on Apr 1, 2018 20:24:03 GMT
Is he just THAT unfit though? Or is there something more to it....
Apart from Berahinio, I can't think of another premier league player who is apparently that unfit and had such a prolonged absence from a squad. And it just seems to have come out of nowhere. It's not like he had a reputation as a party animal or anything is it? An international footballer, decent squad player for top six team. Joins us and suddenly becomes that unfit he can't get anywhere near a depleted match day squad (one which regularly contains Charlie Adam). Completely unfit for purpose.
It just seems very, very strange. Something not quite adding up about this for me.
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Post by Gods on Apr 1, 2018 20:24:15 GMT
Totally unfit hence why he's been so shit. He's been shit because he is shit, any question over his fitness is a red herring. It may also be he should be added to the burgeoning list of players who don't see eye to eye with the incumbent manager though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 20:33:03 GMT
The thing that galls me apart from the fact he is poor is that we didn't need him. The 18 million could have gone on a decent forward. A sickening waste of money.
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Post by thisfootballclub on Apr 1, 2018 20:38:05 GMT
Every club has a few signings that don't work out here and there but to have several (Wimmer, Imbula, Berahino, Joselu (to an extent) Wollscheid, loan deals with a fortune in wages for Bony etc...utter incompetence, if only the powers that be at the club were asked to explain these acquisitions.
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Post by callas12 on Apr 1, 2018 20:47:32 GMT
To highlight how shocking this deals been, it would have been more beneficial/productive to have spent £10mil on the best central defender league 1 or 2 could offer up who was match fit & ready to play & give everything for the cause whilst distributing the remaining £8mil out to local charities like the Donna Louise. As bizarre/extreme as this suggestion sounds we'd have a player fit for purpose & charities would be benefiting in the process. Not to mention the savings we'd of made on his wages which im sure aren't going to be low..
Same could be said for other players/deals as people have mentioned but Wimmer seems to be the worst & highlight how incompetent & wasteful our recent transfer dealings have been..
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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 20:58:54 GMT
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Post by smallthorner on Apr 1, 2018 20:58:54 GMT
Yes. Chris Wood from Leeds would have been an absolutely better acquisition and also been more use in the Championship.
What the fook has gone on?
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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 21:03:27 GMT
Post by crapslinger on Apr 1, 2018 21:03:27 GMT
Every club has a few signings that don't work out here and there but to have several (Wimmer, Imbula, Berahino, Joselu (to an extent) Wollscheid, loan deals with a fortune in wages for Bony etc...utter incompetence, if only the powers that be at the club were asked to explain these acquisitions. Mind boggling incompetence springs too mind.
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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 21:08:56 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Apr 1, 2018 21:08:56 GMT
Totally unfit hence why he's been so shit. He's been shit because he is shit, any question over his fitness is a red herring. It may also be he should be added to the burgeoning list of players who don't see eye to eye with the incumbent manager though. My spurs mate tells me he was far from shit at Spurs.
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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 21:16:05 GMT
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Post by Silvio on Apr 1, 2018 21:16:05 GMT
He's been shit because he is shit, any question over his fitness is a red herring. It may also be he should be added to the burgeoning list of players who don't see eye to eye with the incumbent manager though. My spurs mate tells me he was far from shit at Spurs. My Spurs mate sent me a gloating message as soon as we signed him. He could not believe how much we paid.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Apr 1, 2018 21:17:38 GMT
He's been shit because he is shit, any question over his fitness is a red herring. It may also be he should be added to the burgeoning list of players who don't see eye to eye with the incumbent manager though. My spurs mate tells me he was far from shit at Spurs. Did your friends guide dog have an opinion
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Post by Gods on Apr 1, 2018 21:18:12 GMT
He's been shit because he is shit, any question over his fitness is a red herring. It may also be he should be added to the burgeoning list of players who don't see eye to eye with the incumbent manager though. My spurs mate tells me he was far from shit at Spurs. He hardly ever played for Spurs, fewer than 10 hours in 2 years spread across 15 mostly substitute appearances against teams like us where there was no defending to do. He was never even tested so fuck knows how we paid Spurs 5x more than they did for him , we got absolutely rinsed , his fitness is a non issue, unfortunately, I wish it were, we could do something about it, his shit'ness though is terminal.
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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 21:23:19 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Apr 1, 2018 21:23:19 GMT
My spurs mate tells me he was far from shit at Spurs. He hardly ever played for Spurs, fewer than 10 hours in 2 years spread across 15 mostly substitute appearances against teams like us where there was no defending to do. He was never even tested so fuck knows how we paid Spurs 5x more than they did for him , we got absolutely rinsed , his fitness is non issue, unfortunately, I wish it were, we could do something about it, his shit'ness though is terminal. I'm not saying we didn't pay way too much for him but he's a good defender when fit.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2018 21:26:06 GMT
Wimmer was/is clearly massively unfit. The bloke has a double chin.
I agree with Hackett, he's a good defender when fit.
But we never needed him. It was an odd deal and one that makes no sense at any level and never did. There's a few with Spurs.
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Post by numpty40 on Apr 1, 2018 21:31:37 GMT
He hardly ever played for Spurs, fewer than 10 hours in 2 years spread across 15 mostly substitute appearances against teams like us where there was no defending to do. He was never even tested so fuck knows how we paid Spurs 5x more than they did for him , we got absolutely rinsed , his fitness is non issue, unfortunately, I wish it were, we could do something about it, his shit'ness though is terminal. I'm not saying we didn't pay way too much for him but he's a good defender when fit. He really isn't a good defender. He can't head a ball, he lets players run off him, he ball watches, he's got no pace and just doesn't read the game like a natural defender. He is without any doubt the worst signing Stoke have ever made, he really is that bad.
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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 21:33:33 GMT
Post by Clayton Wood on Apr 1, 2018 21:33:33 GMT
But we never needed him. It was an odd deal and one that makes no sense at any level and never did. There's a few with Spurs. Daniel Philip Levy.
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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 21:33:35 GMT
Post by thegift on Apr 1, 2018 21:33:35 GMT
Ok we know he's been very poor since he arrived. But is there something more to it with this one? To have an academy player on the bench before him suggests maybe so.18m, massive wages, been completely excluded seemingly from the match day squad. What the hell is going on with this one? It's an even worse situation than with Berahinio which almost sounds impossible. With him we at least had warnings which we ignored but it hasn't come as a complete and utter shock. But with Wimmer, there was nothing to suggest he would be so unfit or unprofessional was there? Just wtf has happened with this one. Let me sum it up for you. The guys is fucking SHIT
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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 21:36:11 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2018 21:36:11 GMT
But we never needed him. It was an odd deal and one that makes no sense at any level and never did. There's a few with Spurs. Daniel Philip Levy. But what makes them think, "we've got Zouma Shawcross Indi Muni Cameron and Pieters, let's sign an 18m CB? I like Wimmer (fuck you all I don't care ) but he was never needed and anyone could see that. It's just so odd.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Apr 1, 2018 21:45:23 GMT
But what makes them think, "we've got Zouma Shawcross Indi Muni Cameron and Pieters, let's sign an 18m CB? I like Wimmer (fuck you all I don't care ) but he was never needed and anyone could see that. It's just so odd. Eventually it'll come out. Some years ago Scholes went to some top London CEO awards gig. Levy was doing his hypnotist act, which he does in his spare time. By the end of the evening Scholes was strutting around the stage clucking and trying to lay an egg. Levy also gave him a key word, "Spurs". Now every time he says that word Scholes lays out £m's (the eggs are long gone) on any player Levy suggests and can't remember anything about it but the sound of clicking fingers.
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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 22:11:25 GMT
Post by spitthedog on Apr 1, 2018 22:11:25 GMT
He's been shit because he is shit, any question over his fitness is a red herring. It may also be he should be added to the burgeoning list of players who don't see eye to eye with the incumbent manager though. My spurs mate tells me he was far from shit at Spurs. he played a handful of games and apparently did well (according to my Spurs mate, in fact both of them!).....but £18m for a player who does ok in a handful of games is beyond optimism!
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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 22:53:10 GMT
Post by Gods on Apr 1, 2018 22:53:10 GMT
Wimmer was/is clearly massively unfit. The bloke has a double chin. I agree with Hackett, he's a good defender when fit. But we never needed him. It was an odd deal and one that makes no sense at any level and never did. There's a few with Spurs. We desperately need any good defenders, we have conceded the most goals in the entire division. Wimmer just isn't it, and he's certainly not unfit, not to the point where it would turn him from a bad defender to a good one any way.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2018 22:59:56 GMT
Wimmer was/is clearly massively unfit. The bloke has a double chin. I agree with Hackett, he's a good defender when fit. But we never needed him. It was an odd deal and one that makes no sense at any level and never did. There's a few with Spurs. We desperately need any good defenders, we have conceded the most goals in the entire division. Wimmer just isn't it, and he's certainly not unfit, not to the point where it would turn him from a bad defender to a good one any way. We needed full backs, Indi signing in June and a new midfield. None of it happened.
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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 23:05:29 GMT
Post by Gods on Apr 1, 2018 23:05:29 GMT
We desperately need any good defenders, we have conceded the most goals in the entire division. Wimmer just isn't it, and he's certainly not unfit, not to the point where it would turn him from a bad defender to a good one any way. We needed full backs, Indi signing in June and a new midfield. None of it happened. Well, that as well
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2018 23:09:01 GMT
We needed full backs, Indi signing in June and a new midfield. None of it happened. Well, that as well The CBs in Shawcross and Indi were fine. At the point we signed Wimmer we had Zouma too. So that's 3 frontline CBs. And we had Cameron, Muni and Pieters. So that's 5 CBs and a player that can player there if needed. Using that little lot as back up too also allows you to sign some full backs. Wimmer was never needed.
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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 23:21:34 GMT
Post by Gods on Apr 1, 2018 23:21:34 GMT
Well, that as well The CBs in Shawcross and Indi were fine. At the point we signed Wimmer we had Zouma too. So that's 3 frontline CBs. And we had Cameron, Muni and Pieters. So that's 5 CBs and a player that can player there if needed. Using that little lot as back up too also allows you to sign some full backs. Wimmer was never needed. Well you say that but somehow we went to the home of Chelsea the the Premier League champions with hapless Kev Wimmer and GCam for whom defending is a hobby job as CB's and 2 teenage boys in the form of Edwards and Tymon who wouldn't get in most pub teams as full backs, little wonder we were 3-0 down in 18 minutes! It was just fortunate that Chelsea 'declared' at half time or we could have gone for 10 !
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Wimmer
Apr 1, 2018 23:22:57 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2018 23:22:57 GMT
The CBs in Shawcross and Indi were fine. At the point we signed Wimmer we had Zouma too. So that's 3 frontline CBs. And we had Cameron, Muni and Pieters. So that's 5 CBs and a player that can player there if needed. Using that little lot as back up too also allows you to sign some full backs. Wimmer was never needed. Well you say that but somehow we went to the home of Chelsea the the Premier League champions with hapless Kev Wimmer and GCam for whom defending is a hobby job as CB's and 2 teenage boys in the form of Edwards and Tymon who wouldn't get in most pub teams as full backs, little wonder we were 3-0 down in 18 minutes! It was just fortunate that Chelsea 'declared' at half time or we could have gone for 10 ! Edwards has done well this season. And we had a hapless manager who had given up and still don't have a midfield.
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