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Post by numpty40 on Mar 25, 2018 15:36:03 GMT
Lambert would have won 5 less points than Hughes from the corresponding games. Wow!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2018 15:44:39 GMT
When*
No doubt people will have excuses ready for him.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 25, 2018 15:57:20 GMT
No need to werrit,St. Peter will have us all believe PL is the second coming.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Mar 25, 2018 16:16:31 GMT
When* No doubt people will have excuses ready for him. Yeah, my excuse is that Arsenal are a far better side, assembled at massively more cash, with infinitely better players.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2018 16:17:27 GMT
When* No doubt people will have excuses ready for him. Yeah, my excuse is that Arsenal are a far better side, assembled at massively more cash, with infinitely better players. I mean for the 5 points in general. He should have gathered more than Hughes did as the very minimum.
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Mar 25, 2018 16:18:41 GMT
That’s what you get for taking a cheap option, same with the coaching staff.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Mar 25, 2018 16:35:43 GMT
Lambert would have won 5 less points than Hughes from the corresponding games. Wow!! Are you comparing points hauls which contain one game at home to Arsenal and one game away to Arsenal? Hardly comparable is it? Arsenal lose plenty away from home.
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Post by upthefud on Mar 25, 2018 16:36:30 GMT
Of course, Lambert was at fault for the missed penalty, the ball spilled into the goal at Leicester.
We have been a million times better since he came in. This mess is Hughes' making.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2018 16:37:29 GMT
Lambert would have won 5 less points than Hughes from the corresponding games. Wow!! Are you comparing points hauls which contain one game at home to Arsenal and one game away to Arsenal? Hardly comparable is it? Why isn't it? With the different games it pretty much evens itself out. And includes Watford, Huddersfield and Brighton at home where Hughes had them away for instance.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2018 16:38:26 GMT
Of course, Lambert was at fault for the missed penalty, the ball spilled into the goal at Leicester. We have been a million times better since he came in. This mess is Hughes' making. The points tally says otherwise. And that literally at this stage is all that matters.
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Post by spiderpuss on Mar 25, 2018 16:40:52 GMT
The last time we won against Arsenal was probably 1981. (1-0). If we win their this Sunday it will be nothing short of divine intervention miracle.
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Post by upthefud on Mar 25, 2018 16:41:14 GMT
Are you comparing points hauls which contain one game at home to Arsenal and one game away to Arsenal? Hardly comparable is it? Why isn't it? With the different games it pretty much evens itself out. And includes Watford, Huddersfield and Brighton at home where Hughes had them away for instance. Yep. Hughes, beat Watford, drew with Huddersfield and Brighton Lambert, beat Huddersfield, drew with Watford and Brighton Same with better performances
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2018 16:43:16 GMT
Why isn't it? With the different games it pretty much evens itself out. And includes Watford, Huddersfield and Brighton at home where Hughes had them away for instance. Yep. Hughes, beat Watford, drew with Huddersfield and Brighton Lambert, beat Huddersfield, drew with Watford and Brighton Same with better performances And overall so far Lambert is two points behind Hughes in the same games. We were awful vs Brighton and Watford at home and it wasn't better in the slightest.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Mar 25, 2018 16:44:39 GMT
The last time we won against Arsenal was probably 1981. (1-0). If we win their this Sunday it will be nothing short of divine intervention miracle. It'll be more than that! It simply wouldn't ever happen. Even if the bookies had us at 1000-1 I wouldn't put a pound on it.
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Post by numpty40 on Mar 25, 2018 16:48:53 GMT
Lambert would have won 5 less points than Hughes from the corresponding games. Wow!! Are you comparing points hauls which contain one game at home to Arsenal and one game away to Arsenal? Hardly comparable is it? Arsenal lose plenty away from home. The comparison is the points haul over 9 games against the same teams. IF Stoke lose then Hughes would have won 5 more points than Lambert has in the same fixtures. No ulterior motive, just pointing out a potential comparison.
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 25, 2018 16:50:32 GMT
He did inherit a mess and has at least got the squad fitter and organised - results have not improved though, but I think they would have been worse or similar under Hughes
He will be given a chance next year to sort out the shambles because this is the way Peter operates, he will give his man a fair chance and rightly so.
I just hope he does not let things linger for too long this time if Lambert is not up to the job.
You have to like Lambert's attitude and determination if nothing else and that will hopefully steady the ship next year - I get the feeling he will at least try to improve things and not totally neglect the squad as Hughes did and we will have a starting 11 made of sterner stuff or at the very worse fit and ready for action and not 2 stone overweight.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2018 16:57:29 GMT
He did inherit a mess and has at least got the squad fitter and organised - results have not improved though, but I think they would have been worse or similar under Hughes He will be given a chance next year to sort out the shambles because this is the way Peter operates, he will give his man a fair chance and rightly so. I just hope he does not let things linger for too long this time if Lambert is not up to the job. You have to like Lambert's attitude and determination if nothing else and that will hopefully steady the ship next year - I get the feeling he will at least try to improve things and not totally neglect the squad as Hughes did and we will have a starting 11 made of sterner stuff or at the very worse fit and ready for action and not 2 stone overweight. Why do you? He seems like an utter dinosaur.
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Post by werrington on Mar 25, 2018 17:00:46 GMT
Of course, Lambert was at fault for the missed penalty, the ball spilled into the goal at Leicester. We have been a million times better since he came in. This mess is Hughes' making. Oh without a doubt mate but 2pm last Saturday when the team was announced was like being hit with a sledgehammer He’s reverted back to those who got us in this sorry position and for me that’s criminal
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 25, 2018 17:07:25 GMT
Lambert would have won 5 less points than Hughes from the corresponding games. Wow!! We will win at arsenal don’t worry
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 25, 2018 17:12:08 GMT
Of course, Lambert was at fault for the missed penalty, the ball spilled into the goal at Leicester. We have been a million times better since he came in. This mess is Hughes' making. A miliion times better but going backwards. Work that one on Poirot. Massive error sacking Hughes when they did.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 25, 2018 17:18:11 GMT
Of course, Lambert was at fault for the missed penalty, the ball spilled into the goal at Leicester. We have been a million times better since he came in. This mess is Hughes' making. A miliion times better but going backwards. Work that one on Poirot. Massive error sacking Hughes when they did. No error sacking Hughes (although it should have been much earlier) the error was employing pissing Lambert.
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Post by stokief on Mar 25, 2018 17:19:29 GMT
Of course, Lambert was at fault for the missed penalty, the ball spilled into the goal at Leicester. We have been a million times better since he came in. This mess is Hughes' making.[/quote We'd've got relegated spectacularly with Hughes. Hardly surprising nobody else rushed to fill the vacancy. A bunch of fightless,demoralised players already talking to their agents about their next move. I can't even believe that Allen, Shawcross or Shaq would join MH again Lambert's doing the best he can in the situation that had been left far too long without action being taken by the Board. I know that the poor old players are probably upset that we've already accepted relegation but it shows that we'd become as apathetic as them! I have no problems with Lambert being our manager in the Championship, if he stays. Looks like most of the rats are ready to leave the sinking ship player- wise. Just want this season over and done with, dust ourselves down and start anew. The odd results of our fellow would-be relegatees and the calamitous goalkeeping, missed penalties etc. have proved the stars were aligned. No chance of beating anyone including Arsenal 'cause it's just not meant to be PLUS we're just pretty crap What a sad way to go down. It's one thing being a team of fighters punching WAY above their weight and ultimately buckling. It's another a dour, un-interested Manager who'd turned a silk purse potentially in the making into a sow's ear. Oh,it's Soooooo Stoke. Don't know what I did to get myself in the quote box aswell
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 25, 2018 17:20:07 GMT
A miliion times better but going backwards. Work that one on Poirot. Massive error sacking Hughes when they did. No error sacking Hughes (although it should have been much earlier) the error was employing pissing Lambert. Massive error sacking him WHEN they did.
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Post by stokief on Mar 25, 2018 17:21:13 GMT
MH shouldn't've started the season as Stoke Manager. End of.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 25, 2018 17:21:59 GMT
No error sacking Hughes (although it should have been much earlier) the error was employing pissing Lambert. Massive error sacking him WHEN they did. Not necessarily if they'd employed someone better than Lambert (although it would have been difficult to find someone worse).
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Mar 25, 2018 17:48:20 GMT
Of course, Lambert was at fault for the missed penalty, the ball spilled into the goal at Leicester. We have been a million times better since he came in. This mess is Hughes' making. Maybe so.....just a shame Lambert hasn't got what it takes to be any better than Hughes!!! By the end of the season, they'll have had half a season each, if we go down, then they're BOTH to blame!!!
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Post by podolipotter on Mar 25, 2018 17:59:10 GMT
The last time we won against Arsenal was probably 1981. (1-0). If we win their this Sunday it will be nothing short of divine intervention miracle. surely we have beaten them in the Premiership??
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 18:03:34 GMT
Massive error sacking him WHEN they did. Not necessarily if they'd employed someone better than Lambert (although it would have been difficult to find someone worse). When will people work it out? If they employed someone better than Lambert? THEY PICKED HIM. There wasn't anyone better than Lambert because the type of manager they want is in a very small pool of managers. Add on to that the time of the year then you are left with one or two viable candidates. The fact that QSF, a bloke who visibly shit himself at Watford when the going got tough, was our 'luxurious and fancy' foreign option speaks volumes about the owners.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 18:15:28 GMT
There have been numerous errors in the last 18 months
1. Keeping Hughes last summer 2. Not investing in new full backs and midfielders early enough 3. Not getting rid of Hughes early enough 4. Employing Lambert. Has made us defensively better but we are fucking wank going forward
We can argue Hughes/Lambert all day.
Unfortunately the fatal errors are all down to Coates, Scholes, Cartwright et al
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 25, 2018 18:45:42 GMT
He did inherit a mess and has at least got the squad fitter and organised - results have not improved though, but I think they would have been worse or similar under Hughes He will be given a chance next year to sort out the shambles because this is the way Peter operates, he will give his man a fair chance and rightly so. I just hope he does not let things linger for too long this time if Lambert is not up to the job. You have to like Lambert's attitude and determination if nothing else and that will hopefully steady the ship next year - I get the feeling he will at least try to improve things and not totally neglect the squad as Hughes did and we will have a starting 11 made of sterner stuff or at the very worse fit and ready for action and not 2 stone overweight. Why do you? He seems like an utter dinosaur. Nobody was more disappointed than me when he was appointed, but once Coates has made his decison he has to give him a fair chance. It is not beyond the realms that we will start next season with an entirely new starting 11, it is an almost impossible task for any manager. He has experience of the championship and knows what is required to build a competitive side in that division. I think if we are mid-table at the halfway stage then he will have done a brilliant job and we will all be breathing a sigh of relief. Next year is about re-building foundations and then we can take it from there
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