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Post by marwood on Mar 19, 2018 19:58:33 GMT
There's planning a massive bank heist and getting away with it....then there's Joey Barton....no, he's none to clever is Joey!!! If he was, he'd know when to keep his gob shut, and maybe he'd have had a better career in football, and more England caps!!! He is intelligent. You just don't like him. Intelligent people don't openly campaign for gay rights and then publicly refer to a team mate as looking like an "overweight ladyboy" Intelligent people don't spend a few weeks in France and then comeback sounding like Mike Yarwood doing a bad Gordon Kaye impression Intelligent people who are professional footballers don't gamble on their own performances using their own name Intelligent people don't use analogies of "pulling the worst of four fat birds" whilst appearing in a live political TV debate Intelligent people don't stub cigars out on teamates eyes Like Russell Brand, people (Brand and Barton included) often confuse "using big words on TV" with being intelligent |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 19, 2018 20:00:48 GMT
You don't get to where he is in life by not being intelligent. Robbie Savage seems to have managed it. At least Savage mocks himself, and admits to not being overly bright. Barton is the exact opposite. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Mar 19, 2018 20:03:52 GMT
He is intelligent. You just don't like him. Intelligent people don't openly campaign for gay rights and then publicly refer to a team mate as looking like an "overweight ladyboy" Intelligent people don't spend a few weeks in France and then comeback sounding like Mike Yardwood doing a Gordon Kaye impression Intelligent people don't play professional football then openly gamble on their own performance using their own name Intelligent people don't use analogies of "pulling the worst of four fat birds" whikst appearing in a live political TV debate Intelligent people don't stub cigars out on teamates eyes Like Russell Brand, people (Brand and Barton included) often confuse "using big words on TV" with being intelligent It's not that they even use big words... Some of the craziest people or weirdest people I know are very intelligent. Even Charles Manson was intelligent, but you could tell me intelligent people don't murder 7 people. Intelligence has nothing to do with slipping up in the media and saying a few nasty things, commiting crimes, picking up a foreign accent when living in another country (Which I don't even understand as being bad, he made an attempt to communicate better and it works.) Obviously people will just point and laugh though, but maybe they're so intelligent themselves. |
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Post by mik06 on Mar 19, 2018 20:27:56 GMT
So just what wisdom is it that makes him intelligent then?
I would have thought anyone with an ounce of intelligence should learn from their mistakes but just looking at Joeys track record he doesn't appear to. so please explain why he is so intelligent?
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Post by thegift on Mar 19, 2018 20:28:14 GMT
Even Bojan has hinted he hated him. Did he? Where did you hear/read about this? Did you not see/hear bojan liking stoke city FC's tweet when they sacked marked hughes? |
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Post by serpico on Mar 19, 2018 20:31:56 GMT
I agree with Barton to some extent, Hughes slowly but surely hacked away at the hard working culture that Pulis built up at stoke, by the end we were lacking any sort of identity, were a soft touch,looked unfit and had no idea whether to play sideways passes or launch long balls up from the back, in the end he was a confused clueless manager, i think he's a manger with a built in shelf life of a handful of seasons, he may be alright at southampton to begin with but it will end the same way as it did here, he's limited.
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Post by wilcopotter on Mar 19, 2018 20:38:08 GMT
I agree with Barton to some extent, Hughes slowly but surely hacked away at the hard working culture that Pulis built up at stoke, by the end we were lacking any sort of identity, were a soft touch,looked unfit and had no idea whether to play sideways passes or launch long balls up from the back, in the end he was a confused clueless manager, i think he's a manger with a built in shelf life of a handful of seasons, he may be alright at southampton to begin with but it will end the same way as it did here, he's limited. Southampton might realise that already, hence, contract to the end of the season may be just that, regardless of their fate. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Mar 19, 2018 20:42:15 GMT
Whilst I agree that Hughes has a maximum shelf-life doesnt that apply to nearly ALL modern managers?
Wenger still marches on but after that no managers stick around longer than 2 or 3 years at one club.
Its a bit of a weak argument against Hughes to be fair. The owners should have known better that all managers go stale after a while bar Fergie at Man United.
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Post by PolPotter on Mar 19, 2018 20:42:58 GMT
Did he? Where did you hear/read about this? Did you not see/hear bojan liking stoke city FC's tweet when they sacked marked hughes? Nope. I'll take your word for it. Not sure that amounts to hate though. |
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 19, 2018 20:46:45 GMT
Not sure which one I detest more at the moment, both arrogant twats who think they are better than they are, for the damage he has done to our club I think I would go for Hughes I would drop kick the c*nt if I met him.
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Post by thegift on Mar 19, 2018 20:55:02 GMT
Did you not see/hear bojan liking stoke city FC's tweet when they sacked marked hughes? Nope. I'll take your word for it. Not sure that amounts to hate though. I'll try find the proof. Bojan hates hughes |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 21:01:54 GMT
Not sure which one I detest more at the moment, both arrogant twats who think they are better than they are, for the damage he has done to our club I think I would go for Hughes I would drop kick the c*nt if I met him. Apart from the fact that you wouldn’t that’s a cool story.... |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 19, 2018 22:09:33 GMT
Robbie Savage seems to have managed it. I don't really listen to him much, he seems a bit biased, but that doesn't make him stupid. Bartons an asshole so he will usually be talked about negatively. Oh he’s stupid alright. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 19, 2018 22:27:25 GMT
He really isn't, he just thinks he is. You don't get to where he is in life by not being intelligent. But you do get banned 12 matches for violent conduct and betting on your own team ending your own career, I'm going off his conduct on the pitch, if he had a brain he would have had a much better career, more England caps etc, his idiocy held him back. |
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Post by kaney78 on Mar 19, 2018 23:30:33 GMT
I've no bad feeling for Mark Hughes now he has gone, I just think he lost the plot this season. Just a pity he wasn't put out of his misery a bit earlier. But whatever my opinions on Hughes Barton is an absolute bell end. A man who stubbed a cigar out on a youth players face, as someone said earlier got sent off and tried to fight the whole man City team, banned for gambling or something I think, the list goes on. No time for Barton at all
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Post by madnellie on Mar 20, 2018 5:50:01 GMT
If Joey Barton told me the sky was blue I'd go outside and check. Edit: just noticed Rick Grimes said pretty much the same thing. |
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Post by musik on Mar 20, 2018 7:06:45 GMT
It's always a question of level.
The ones who are impressed and look up to Joey Barton for some reason, can take what he says seriously.
Others wouldn't even give it a thought. As always.
musik's philosophy of live
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Post by nott1 on Mar 20, 2018 7:25:51 GMT
Why is this man being paid to spout this bilge, nobody is interested?
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Post by MuddyWoody on Mar 20, 2018 8:36:26 GMT
so you all thought Mark was shit when we were outplaying the likes of Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool did you? No. I thought he was shit before he even got to Stoke. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 20, 2018 8:40:24 GMT
so you all thought Mark was shit when we were outplaying the likes of Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool did you? No. I thought he was shit before he even got to Stoke. So the answer to his question is yes then? You did think he was shit when we were playing good football and looking like European contenders? You should’ve mentioned it. |
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Post by generationex on Mar 20, 2018 8:44:17 GMT
Aah.. those magical three weeks... where did they go...
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Post by bigsalif on Mar 20, 2018 8:58:47 GMT
Barton talks a lot of shit, but he's right about Hughes. I can see Hughes keeping them up though!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 20, 2018 9:18:23 GMT
Aah.. those magical three weeks... where did they go... So it was only good for three weeks was it? Always funny how the TP FC brigade are the ones to peddle that. |
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Post by thegift on Mar 20, 2018 9:19:48 GMT
Aah.. those magical three weeks... where did they go... So it was only good for three weeks was it? Always funny how the TP FC brigade are the ones to peddle that. You really hate Tone, don't you? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 20, 2018 9:47:29 GMT
So it was only good for three weeks was it? Always funny how the TP FC brigade are the ones to peddle that. You really hate Tone, don't you? I don't hate him, he did a great job until he stopped doing one. I hate the cult of Tony and the sad acts who were itching to hate Hughes because they were mardy their hero had been sacked. And the rewriting of history of both his reign and Hughes'. |
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Post by thegift on Mar 20, 2018 10:16:21 GMT
You really hate Tone, don't you? I don't hate him, he did a great job until he stopped doing one. I hate the cult of Tony and the sad acts who were itching to hate Hughes because they were mardy their hero had been sacked. And the rewriting of history of both his reign and Hughes'. A lot of us Hated Hughes through his poor reputation of relegating teams. It had nothing to do with Pulis |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Mar 20, 2018 11:35:28 GMT
You don't get to where he is in life by not being intelligent. But you do get banned 12 matches for violent conduct and betting on your own team ending your own career, I'm going off his conduct on the pitch, if he had a brain he would have had a much better career, more England caps etc, his idiocy held him back. Once again. Your career does not always define your intelligence. There are many intelligent people who are in prison or are homeless. You can't see past his conduct and attitude that's why you're labeling him as stupid. Because you DON'T LIKE HIM. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 11:37:20 GMT
But you do get banned 12 matches for violent conduct and betting on your own team ending your own career, I'm going off his conduct on the pitch, if he had a brain he would have had a much better career, more England caps etc, his idiocy held him back. Once again. Your career does not always define your intelligence. There are many intelligent people who are in prison or are homeless. You can't see past his conduct and attitude that's why you're labeling him as stupid. Because you DON'T LIKE HIM. I'm labelling him as stupid due to his many examples of pure stupidity. Not sure how else I could define it to be honest? |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Mar 20, 2018 11:41:22 GMT
Once again. Your career does not always define your intelligence. There are many intelligent people who are in prison or are homeless. You can't see past his conduct and attitude that's why you're labeling him as stupid. Because you DON'T LIKE HIM. I'm labelling him as stupid due to his many examples of pure stupidity. Not sure how else I could define it to be honest? Okay, most people have done stupid mistakes. It's got nothing to do with intelligence though... |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 20, 2018 11:44:25 GMT
But you do get banned 12 matches for violent conduct and betting on your own team ending your own career, I'm going off his conduct on the pitch, if he had a brain he would have had a much better career, more England caps etc, his idiocy held him back. Once again. Your career does not always define your intelligence. There are many intelligent people who are in prison or are homeless. You can't see past his conduct and attitude that's why you're labeling him as stupid. Because you DON'T LIKE HIM. You’re only sticking up for Barton because you hate Hughes, and you’re as incapable of being rational about him as he is. |
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