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Post by riccyfuller93 on Mar 19, 2018 13:26:36 GMT
He's 100% right. He can be a complete bellend, but he's an intelligent guy. Intelligent guys do not go round sticking lit cigars in peoples eyes. So you're saying you cannot commit crimes and be intelligent?
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Post by rosco on Mar 19, 2018 13:39:24 GMT
Barton and Hughes had a massive fall out at QPR. Like any manager they'll be those who like him and those who don't. I wouldn't read too much into it. Even Bojan has hinted he hated him. But I'm sure Diouf, Shawcross, Butland, Allen, Shaq etc etc all liked him.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 19, 2018 13:46:40 GMT
Difference is, their owners will pull the plug a lot sooner than Coates did when there is a hint of it going tits up I don't know about that, Look how long they persevered with san Pelligrino! Not that long - 30 games - and that's only because they felt they had justify the appointment after sacking Puel (8th place finish and a League cup final in his first season). They also sacked Nigel Adkins just after he's won them back to back promotions - such is their gratitude for success. Hughes only has a contract until the end of the season - and they'll probably stay up (I think the would have done anyway - they have a decent squad). If they should manage to win the FA Cup he might have a job there next season - short of that I think they'll get rid. More because the seem to refer the foreign manager there than anything else.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Mar 19, 2018 14:03:24 GMT
Intelligent guys do not go round sticking lit cigars in peoples eyes. So you're saying you cannot commit crimes and be intelligent? There's planning a massive bank heist and getting away with it....then there's Joey Barton....no, he's none to clever is Joey!!! If he was, he'd know when to keep his gob shut, and maybe he'd have had a better career in football, and more England caps!!!
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Mar 19, 2018 14:12:08 GMT
So you're saying you cannot commit crimes and be intelligent? There's planning a massive bank heist and getting away with it....then there's Joey Barton....no, he's none to clever is Joey!!! If he was, he'd know when to keep his gob shut, and maybe he'd have had a better career in football, and more England caps!!! He is intelligent. You just don't like him.
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Post by stantheman on Mar 19, 2018 14:16:31 GMT
He also slagged Neil Warnock off, compared him to Mike Bassett and said he was a crap manager. This is the same Neil Warnock working miracles at Cardiff this season amongst other jobs that he has succeeded in. The guys a fraud, tried to reinvent himself as some kind of pseudo intellectual philosopher and when the whole world pointed and laughed at him he just resorted back to the being the prick that he was. If he wasn't an average Premier League footballer he'd be doing 20 years in Strangeways.... I love Alan Brazil in the mornings, but have to switch off when that vile scouse thug is on air. He says contentions things to get a reaction and in turn gets even more publicity. He comes from a family of thugs and despite having a few quid to his name, will always remain one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 14:18:42 GMT
Pearls of wisdom from Joey Barton ?
hes right on the button with this one though - no can avoid it
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Post by marylandstoke on Mar 19, 2018 14:25:54 GMT
If Joey Barton told me it was raining outside I'd still go and check for myself. Apart from Barton, who clearly has an axe to grind, how many other players that played under Hughes are making similar claims? Based on what I've seen the majority of players liked playing under Hughes. Hughes wouldn't have survived as long as he did at S toke if he was 'abysmal'. The Stoke players would have lost respect for him and downed tools in order to get him sacked far sooner.
The reality is that he took us to three successive 9th place finishes before he began to lose his way and the players were still saying he was the right man for the job even as we were plunging deeper into the shit. The reality is that Hughes is an average manager, good enough to get to a certain level but not good enough to improve further or even maintain it over a long period of time.
If joey Barton told me it was raining I’d check he wasn’t pissing in my pocket
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 19, 2018 14:26:31 GMT
Personally don't see why anyone gives a fuck.
Last time i checked, Hughes isn't our manager.
What's important is our team and the CURRENT manager pulling together to see if there's any way possible to drag us out of this mess...well, that's what i think is important. It would appear however, that many on this board over the last day or so seem to think that what's really important is finding enough pundits to back them up while they drone on with their "I told you so" threads........boring!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 14:26:38 GMT
He's right but he's not saying it for the right reasons. Hughes could have won us the league and Barton would be saying he's shite.
The comment about us getting 'progressively worse' since Pulis shows all you need to know.
Savage is an arsehole who is dismissing everything Hughes did wrong. Barton is an arsehole who is dismissing everything he did right.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Mar 19, 2018 14:33:38 GMT
There's planning a massive bank heist and getting away with it....then there's Joey Barton....no, he's none to clever is Joey!!! If he was, he'd know when to keep his gob shut, and maybe he'd have had a better career in football, and more England caps!!! He is intelligent. You just don't like him. If he was intelligent he'd know when to keep his trap shut!!! There's no doubt plenty of footballers out there who'd love to spout off some shit about players, ex-players, managers and football in general but don't!!! Like I say, he could have done so much more if it wasn't for his gob and attitude!!! As for not liking him....on the contrary, if he wasn't such a dick, I would have LOVED him at Stoke, playing wise, if was a good player!!! To me, he was a definate Pulis type player, but I doubt even Pulis would have taken the tit on!!! He's just a fool to himself!!!
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Mar 19, 2018 14:34:58 GMT
He is intelligent. You just don't like him. If he was intelligent he'd know when to keep his trap shut!!! There's no doubt plenty of footballers out there who'd love to spout off some shit about players, ex-players, managers and football in general but don't!!! Like I say, he could have done so much more if it wasn't for his gob and attitude!!! As for not liking him....on the contrary, if he wasn't such a dick, I would have LOVED him at Stoke, playing wise, if was a good player!!! To me, he was a definate Pulis type player, but I doubt even Pulis would have taken the tit on!!! He's just a fool to himself!!! What does speaking your opinion or having a big gob to do with your intelligence? I admire him for coming out and saying what he thinks. I think the same as him regarding Hughes.
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Post by thegift on Mar 19, 2018 14:36:46 GMT
He is intelligent. You just don't like him. If he was intelligent he'd know when to keep his trap shut!!! There's no doubt plenty of footballers out there who'd love to spout off some shit about players, ex-players, managers and football in general but don't!!! Like I say, he could have done so much more if it wasn't for his gob and attitude!!! As for not liking him....on the contrary, if he wasn't such a dick, I would have LOVED him at Stoke, playing wise, if was a good player!!! To me, he was a definate Pulis type player, but I doubt even Pulis would have taken the tit on!!! He's just a fool to himself!!! Are you shouting as you type it?
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Post by bossthemidfield on Mar 19, 2018 14:41:20 GMT
Who gives a fuck what Barton thinks about someone who isn’t our manager anymore...
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 19, 2018 14:43:18 GMT
I wouldn't pay too much attention to what Joey Barton has to say. I don't know why the media give him so much airtime.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Mar 19, 2018 14:46:26 GMT
If he was intelligent he'd know when to keep his trap shut!!! There's no doubt plenty of footballers out there who'd love to spout off some shit about players, ex-players, managers and football in general but don't!!! Like I say, he could have done so much more if it wasn't for his gob and attitude!!! As for not liking him....on the contrary, if he wasn't such a dick, I would have LOVED him at Stoke, playing wise, if was a good player!!! To me, he was a definate Pulis type player, but I doubt even Pulis would have taken the tit on!!! He's just a fool to himself!!! Are you shouting as you type it? It's hard not too with some on here, most I just end up giving up on as it's like banging your head against a fuckin brick wall!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 18:20:48 GMT
I don't know about that, Look how long they persevered with san Pelligrino! Not that long - 30 games - and that's only because they felt they had justify the appointment after sacking Puel (8th place finish and a League cup final in his first season). They also sacked Nigel Adkins just after he's won them back to back promotions - such is their gratitude for success. Hughes only has a contract until the end of the season - and they'll probably stay up (I think the would have done anyway - they have a decent squad). If they should manage to win the FA Cup he might have a job there next season - short of that I think they'll get rid. More because the seem to refer the foreign manager there than anything else. I should've been more clear, I meant amount of time spent comparative to terrible performance.*
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 19, 2018 18:24:14 GMT
He's right but he's not saying it for the right reasons. Hughes could have won us the league and Barton would be saying he's shite. The comment about us getting 'progressively worse' since Pulis shows all you need to know. Savage is an arsehole who is dismissing everything Hughes did wrong. Barton is an arsehole who is dismissing everything he did right. And Hughes is just well an arsehole who has left us covered in his shit.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 18:30:30 GMT
He's right but he's not saying it for the right reasons. Hughes could have won us the league and Barton would be saying he's shite. The comment about us getting 'progressively worse' since Pulis shows all you need to know. Savage is an arsehole who is dismissing everything Hughes did wrong. Barton is an arsehole who is dismissing everything he did right. And Hughes is just well an arsehole who has left us covered in his shit. You appear to be obsessed with Mark Hughes’ faeces....
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 19, 2018 18:30:58 GMT
Intelligent guys do not go round sticking lit cigars in peoples eyes. So you're saying you cannot commit crimes and be intelligent? No, but worthwhile football pundits would tend to know why France aren’t picking Mousa Dembele.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Mar 19, 2018 18:35:16 GMT
So you're saying you cannot commit crimes and be intelligent? No, but worthwhile football pundits would tend to know why France aren’t picking Mousa Dembele. With the amount of Dembele's about can you really blame him. There's also a difference between being smart and being intelligent. I won't hold it against him.
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Post by marcofstoke on Mar 19, 2018 18:40:24 GMT
What you don't hear on these clips is Alan Brazil interjecting and playing devils advocate and trying to think of some good things to say about Hughes, Barton then says "you just called him a weirdo off air" Brazil glosses over that comment and moves on, it was clear to anyone listening that he did actually say that
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Post by ParaPsych on Mar 19, 2018 18:49:19 GMT
I know and work with lots of intelligent people. I'm not entirely convinced good old Joey qualifies as being anywhere near as intelligent as many of them. It's all relative though.
More intelligent than a lot of footballers? Quite possibly.
A bigger wanker than most of them? Most definitely!
Correct about Hughes? I suspect some of his observations are worthwhile, yes.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 19, 2018 18:50:01 GMT
No, but worthwhile football pundits would tend to know why France aren’t picking Mousa Dembele. With the amount of Dembele's about can you really blame him. There's also a difference between being smart and being intelligent. I won't hold it against him. I’d blame him when he’s paid to be a pundit and Dembele’s been playing here for about eight years. It’s basic stuff. Barton has an agenda against Hughes. You can say he did a shit job here and at QPR but he can’t be dismissed as a shit manager completely because he’s had successes in his career as well as failures.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 19, 2018 19:11:26 GMT
There's planning a massive bank heist and getting away with it....then there's Joey Barton....no, he's none to clever is Joey!!! If he was, he'd know when to keep his gob shut, and maybe he'd have had a better career in football, and more England caps!!! He is intelligent. You just don't like him. He really isn't, he just thinks he is.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Mar 19, 2018 19:16:14 GMT
He is intelligent. You just don't like him. He really isn't, he just thinks he is. You don't get to where he is in life by not being intelligent.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 19, 2018 19:16:48 GMT
He really isn't, he just thinks he is. You don't get to where he is in life by not being intelligent. Robbie Savage seems to have managed it.
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 19, 2018 19:16:49 GMT
There's planning a massive bank heist and getting away with it....then there's Joey Barton....no, he's none to clever is Joey!!! If he was, he'd know when to keep his gob shut, and maybe he'd have had a better career in football, and more England caps!!! He is intelligent. You just don't like him. The writers of Seinfeld had a problem in the early episodes. Audiences everywhere assumed that because George wore glasses and wanted to be an architect, he was very clever. He was obviously written to not be at all clever, but audiences continued to assume that he was in some way smarter than every other character. As a consequence, the writers made him do increasingly stupid things, until viewers realised he was supposed to be a bit daft. The moral of this story is that you don't become intelligent or have anything relevant to say just because your publicist sticks a pair of glasses on you and tells you to mutter something about Foucault. He is paying somebody a lot of money to make him look like a troubled genius, although I find their efforts to be rather transparent.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Mar 19, 2018 19:24:57 GMT
You don't get to where he is in life by not being intelligent. Robbie Savage seems to have managed it. I don't really listen to him much, he seems a bit biased, but that doesn't make him stupid. Bartons an asshole so he will usually be talked about negatively.
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Post by PolPotter on Mar 19, 2018 19:44:38 GMT
Barton and Hughes had a massive fall out at QPR. Like any manager they'll be those who like him and those who don't. I wouldn't read too much into it. Even Bojan has hinted he hated him. Did he? Where did you hear/read about this?
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