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Post by skilljim on Mar 9, 2018 21:04:58 GMT
Some tricky fixtures for us down at the bottom...here's the full list - Saturday12:30 Manchester Utd - Liverpool / Don't care15:00 Everton - Brighton / Draw? Huddersfield - Swansea / Draw?Newcastle - Southampton / Draw?West Brom - Leicester / Leicester win West Ham - Burnley / Burnley win17:30 Chelsea - Crystal Palace / Chelsea winSunday13:30 Arsenal - Watford / Arsenal win16:00 Bournemouth - Tottenham / Spurs winMonday20:00Stoke - Manchester City / Stoke win  At this stage of the season, i'm really not sure whether draws in those fixtures would be the best or not? Table could again look quite scary come Monday... |
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Post by Gods on Mar 9, 2018 21:11:58 GMT
With all those bottom half v bottom half matches on Saturday afternoon the teams we are chasing are guaranteed to garner points.
It won't look pretty by the time we go in to battle with the runaway league leaders on Monday evening.
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Post by potterblade on Mar 9, 2018 21:34:30 GMT
We want the lowest placed teams to lose - always.
So WBA, palace and s'ton defeats would be ideal. However the fact that S'ton are playing Newcastle means it's not the end of the world even if they get a point or somehow win.
They aren't bad fixtures this weekend, given anything we get us a bonus.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Mar 9, 2018 21:42:02 GMT
Brighton win, Swansea win, Newcastle win, Leicester win, Chelsea win, Arsenal win, Spurs win.
We're coming from behind and we need those closest to us and most easily catchable to stay where they are. So I don't want Palace or Southampton to get any points this weekend and out of the 30 point cluster I want Huddersfield to stay where they are because on paper they have one of the weaker squads and they're the only team with a goal difference we have a chance of catching.
Brighton and Swansea both have upward momentum and I think will be OK so I'll be happy for them to pull away to drag in teams I think are more likely to continue to struggle like Everton. Plus if Everton lose we play them next week which gives us a chance to take another 3 points off them. It's always best to keep things as much in your own hands as possible.
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Post by skilljim on Mar 9, 2018 21:49:37 GMT
Brighton win, Swansea win, Newcastle win, Leicester win, Chelsea win, Arsenal win, Spurs win. We're coming from behind and we need those closest to us and most easily catchable to stay where they are. So I don't want Palace or Southampton to get any points this weekend and out of the 30 point cluster I want Huddersfield to stay where they are because on paper they have one of the weaker squads and they're the only team with a goal difference we have a chance of catching. Brighton and Swansea both have upward momentum and I think will be OK so I'll be happy for them to pull away to drag in teams I think are more likely to continue to struggle like Everton. Plus if Everton lose we play them next week which gives us a chance to take another 3 points off them. It's always best to keep things as much in your own hands as possible. Good points mate! It's just been a real topsy turvy kind of season, i'm still not really used to Swansea's recent form, always felt like it was going to be short lived, but seems like they are keeping it up. |
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Mar 9, 2018 21:51:08 GMT
Can everybody else just lose?
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Mar 9, 2018 22:02:13 GMT
Brighton win, Swansea win, Newcastle win, Leicester win, Chelsea win, Arsenal win, Spurs win. We're coming from behind and we need those closest to us and most easily catchable to stay where they are. So I don't want Palace or Southampton to get any points this weekend and out of the 30 point cluster I want Huddersfield to stay where they are because on paper they have one of the weaker squads and they're the only team with a goal difference we have a chance of catching. Brighton and Swansea both have upward momentum and I think will be OK so I'll be happy for them to pull away to drag in teams I think are more likely to continue to struggle like Everton. Plus if Everton lose we play them next week which gives us a chance to take another 3 points off them. It's always best to keep things as much in your own hands as possible. Good points mate! It's just been a real topsy turvy kind of season, i'm still not really used to Swansea's recent form, always felt like it was going to be short lived, but seems like they are keeping it up. Yeah I think they're gone now. Also looking further ahead it's almost impossible to see a scenario where we can stay up without having to get something from that final game away at Swansea. So if they're mathematically safe on the final day or are left in that stick or twist 'only need a draw' scenario it could benefit us rather than them needing a win too because I think they'll overpower us at home. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 22:06:39 GMT
I'm hoping to score in the Saturday night wife wrestling match^
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 10, 2018 0:26:13 GMT
Palace had a dreadful start to the season (worst on record?) and everyone said they are going to be relegated. Then came the miraculous recovery beating Chelsea and then a lucky, lucky last minute victory over us after Ryan missed a sitter. At Christmas everyone was saying Swansea are favourites to be relegated. Then they had a miraculous recovery and now they are the people's favourite to cause an upset.
What's new about this? Nothing, it happens every season.
This season is as tight as ever with 7 points between 10th and 19th. Last season there was 6 points between 17th and 18th. So the one thing we can be sure of is there is going to be a lot of changes in position from week to week depending on who plays who. Everyone continues to make predictions based on past results, which we know is very inaccurate.
A win is worth 3 draws, so I just hope none of those other teams below 9th win. If a crap team like Watford can be 9th when they have only lost 1 game less than us, there is always very significant hope for us until it becomes mathematically impossible to avoid the drop. Ironically West Brom could yet do us a favour by pulling the fat out of the fire and beating Swansea, Newcastle, and Palace, but, of course, we need to beat Swansea and Palace ourselves.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 10, 2018 0:45:33 GMT
I agree with all results you mentioned are better results for Stoke, but although Everton and Brighton have the same points, I think Everton will not relegate while Brighton still may relegate so i think Everton win will be a better result.
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Post by Gods on Mar 10, 2018 8:16:42 GMT
Palace had a dreadful start to the season (worst on record?) and everyone said they are going to be relegated. Then came the miraculous recovery beating Chelsea and then a lucky, lucky last minute victory over us after Ryan missed a sitter. At Christmas everyone was saying Swansea are favourites to be relegated. Then they had a miraculous recovery and now they are the people's favourite to cause an upset. What's new about this? Nothing, it happens every season. This season is as tight as ever with 7 points between 10th and 19th. Last season there was 6 points between 17th and 18th. So the one thing we can be sure of is there is going to be a lot of changes in position from week to week depending on who plays who. Everyone continues to make predictions based on past results, which we know is very inaccurate. A win is worth 3 draws, so I just hope none of those other teams below 9th win. If a crap team like Watford can be 9th when they have only lost 1 game less than us, there is always very significant hope for us until it becomes mathematically impossible to avoid the drop. Ironically West Brom could yet do us a favour by pulling the fat out of the fire and beating Swansea, Newcastle, and Palace, but, of course, we need to beat Swansea and Palace ourselves. You make a good point about wins turning bottom v bottom games in to 3 point matches rather than 2. For that reason on the whole I prefer draws in bottom v bottom games. However in the end we are going to need to finish above 3 teams (WBA +2) so at some point very soon (now'ish) we need 2 teams other than WBA and ourselves to slip badly away. The trouble is I have no sense as to who that might be. All the teams I thought were really bad like Bournemouth, Burnley and Brighton look fairly safe and we are left turning to the likes of Southampton and West Ham both of whom in my opinion have relatively good teams. I'm struggling to see a way out for us, not without both winning our obvious opportunity games AND taking down a big beast of the jungle or two anyway but we've shown no signs of doing either yet  |
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Post by musik on Mar 10, 2018 9:28:39 GMT
Hellu!
We must in getting teams behind us also think of goal difference. So the most important might be Hudds losing.
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almost awake//:musik
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Post by lordb on Mar 10, 2018 9:55:01 GMT
Palace had a dreadful start to the season (worst on record?) and everyone said they are going to be relegated. Then came the miraculous recovery beating Chelsea and then a lucky, lucky last minute victory over us after Ryan missed a sitter. At Christmas everyone was saying Swansea are favourites to be relegated. Then they had a miraculous recovery and now they are the people's favourite to cause an upset. What's new about this? Nothing, it happens every season. This season is as tight as ever with 7 points between 10th and 19th. Last season there was 6 points between 17th and 18th. So the one thing we can be sure of is there is going to be a lot of changes in position from week to week depending on who plays who. Everyone continues to make predictions based on past results, which we know is very inaccurate. A win is worth 3 draws, so I just hope none of those other teams below 9th win. If a crap team like Watford can be 9th when they have only lost 1 game less than us, there is always very significant hope for us until it becomes mathematically impossible to avoid the drop. Ironically West Brom could yet do us a favour by pulling the fat out of the fire and beating Swansea, Newcastle, and Palace, but, of course, we need to beat Swansea and Palace ourselves. You make a good point about wins turning bottom v bottom games in to 3 point matches rather than 2. For that reason on the whole I prefer draws in bottom v bottom games. However in the end we are going to need to finish above 3 teams (WBA +2) so at some point very soon (now'ish) we need 2 teams other than WBA and ourselves to slip badly away. The trouble is I have no sense as to who that might be. All the teams I thought were really bad like Bournemouth, Burnley and Brighton look fairly safe and we are left turning to the likes of Southampton and West Ham both of whom in my opinion have relatively good teams. I'm struggling to see a way out for us, not without both winning our obvious opportunity games AND taking down a big beast of the jungle or two anyway but we've shown no signs of doing either yet Keep seeing posts rating Southampton. They look just as poor as us to me. |
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 10, 2018 10:17:40 GMT
Palace had a dreadful start to the season (worst on record?) and everyone said they are going to be relegated. Then came the miraculous recovery beating Chelsea and then a lucky, lucky last minute victory over us after Ryan missed a sitter. At Christmas everyone was saying Swansea are favourites to be relegated. Then they had a miraculous recovery and now they are the people's favourite to cause an upset. What's new about this? Nothing, it happens every season. This season is as tight as ever with 7 points between 10th and 19th. Last season there was 6 points between 17th and 18th. So the one thing we can be sure of is there is going to be a lot of changes in position from week to week depending on who plays who. Everyone continues to make predictions based on past results, which we know is very inaccurate. A win is worth 3 draws, so I just hope none of those other teams below 9th win. If a crap team like Watford can be 9th when they have only lost 1 game less than us, there is always very significant hope for us until it becomes mathematically impossible to avoid the drop. Ironically West Brom could yet do us a favour by pulling the fat out of the fire and beating Swansea, Newcastle, and Palace, but, of course, we need to beat Swansea and Palace ourselves. You make a good point about wins turning bottom v bottom games in to 3 point matches rather than 2. For that reason on the whole I prefer draws in bottom v bottom games. However in the end we are going to need to finish above 3 teams (WBA +2) so at some point very soon (now'ish) we need 2 teams other than WBA and ourselves to slip badly away. The trouble is I have no sense as to who that might be. All the teams I thought were really bad like Bournemouth, Burnley and Brighton look fairly safe and we are left turning to the likes of Southampton and West Ham both of whom in my opinion have relatively good teams. I'm struggling to see a way out for us, not without both winning our obvious opportunity games AND taking down a big beast of the jungle or two anyway but we've shown no signs of doing either yet You emphasise my point; I think it is still too early to want those clubs in direct competition with us to win and get 3 points, it reduces the chances of our survival. At least for the next few weeks we need none of our peers to win, except maybe be West Brom beating the 3 I mention, and Brighton and Bournemouth beating our peers. You are right, there is no way we can survive without winning matches and lifting ourselves above those peers. PL has turned us from a team that loses or draws from winning positions (we ran out of steam/concentration) to a team that is failing to score often enough to win. But at least we are improving in terms of performance, if not results, and look more like putting up a fight to survive. Palace and West Ham look to have "lost the plot" and returned to their early season form, but I would not put it past them to do the same as Swansea, Brighton, Bournemouth, and Huddersfield and suddenly win a couple and jump up the table. Rafa is struggling and doing brilliantly to scrape results out of a very weak squad, probably the weakest in the Prem. Southampton are like us and Middlesbrough last season, just not scoring enough to get enough points. West Brom look doomed but then so did Leicester 3 years ago today, then on 4th April 2015 they suddenly started winning their matches and didn't stop the next season! |
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Post by fca47 on Mar 10, 2018 11:39:59 GMT
Sod the rest of them, we need to start winning our games and it won't matter that much.
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Post by 3putts on Mar 10, 2018 13:42:59 GMT
I predict draws all round so a win for us on Monday would be massive but we may have to wait for next Saturday for 3points
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 10, 2018 15:02:10 GMT
Newcastle 1
Southampton 0
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 10, 2018 15:06:39 GMT
Do we want Huddersfield v Swansea be a draw? Or can we give it to Swansea as they are likely to be safe anyway??
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 10, 2018 15:08:08 GMT
Baggies one up
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 10, 2018 15:08:36 GMT
WBA scores
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Post by Gods on Mar 10, 2018 15:10:31 GMT
Do we want Huddersfield v Swansea be a draw? Or can we give it to Swansea as they are likely to be safe anyway?? Fuck knows. We can't really afford for any of them to get points but they will this afternoon because they are all playing one another. The league table won't look pretty tonight whatever happens. It's going to be a long and harrowing afternoon. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 10, 2018 15:10:36 GMT
Swansea down to 10 men at Huddersfield. Jordan Ayew sent off
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Post by claytonscrubs on Mar 10, 2018 15:10:44 GMT
The Baggies are down.... I don’t care a shit about them.
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Post by spoton on Mar 10, 2018 15:12:49 GMT
Sorry does not really matter what results are somewhere we have to get 3 points
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 10, 2018 15:12:55 GMT
Newcastle 1 Southampton 0 Kennedy would have been worth a shot. |
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Post by Dr Hesham on Mar 10, 2018 15:13:10 GMT
The Baggies are down, ... I don’t care a shit about them. If they win today, they still have a chance as they have 5 games against other relegating teams. |
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Post by Gods on Mar 10, 2018 15:13:31 GMT
The Baggies are down, ... I don’t care a shit about them. You should. 4 points behind us with better goal difference and 8 matches to play if that result remains the same. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 10, 2018 15:13:41 GMT
Swansea down to 10 men at Huddersfield. Jordan Ayew sent off The conspiracy continues.... |
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Post by likelyladgalizmo on Mar 10, 2018 15:14:14 GMT
Baggies Leicester game bit of kit clash.
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Post by stillgame4it on Mar 10, 2018 15:15:29 GMT
Swansea down to 10 men at Huddersfield. Jordan Ayew sent off Straight Red? That's him out for a 3 match ban then I assume? |
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