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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Feb 27, 2018 10:41:28 GMT
Does everyone else have a real dislike for many of our players? I can think of at least five.
When was the last time the club had so many players that we'd prefer never to play again?
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 27, 2018 10:45:26 GMT
The only two I'm really bothered about are Adam and Saido, I don't buy the whole Saido thing, said he would be a bad signing and we're at the point where he can't even keep himself fit.
The fact Adam still plays for us is a travesty, an absolute over the hill thug from whom any semblance of football or dead ball ability has evaporated and has been replaced by this faux "passion" bollocks that he peddles. Urgh.
You'll struggle to find a worse cameo that what he delivered at Leicester, he was a Zouma and Butland away from losing us the bloody game.
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Post by thegift on Feb 27, 2018 10:49:37 GMT
WIMMER Butland Adam Choupo
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Post by keay1863 on Feb 27, 2018 10:49:56 GMT
Stephen Ireland - Arrogant Chapou - Lazy bastard Berahino - Doesn't give a fuck
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Post by jimmygscfc on Feb 27, 2018 10:55:44 GMT
Great rallying post Jonny. Just what we need at the moment.
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Post by auntiegeorge on Feb 27, 2018 10:56:41 GMT
What I don't understand is Lambo saying Saido isn't fully fit, yet he doesn't hesitate to bring on Charlie who is the most out of shape professional footballer in history. Could it be because he's a fellow Scot?
I despise Saido both as a footballer and as a "man". I never want to see him in a Stoke shirt again. Charlie has given great service to the club but his time is well and truly up now.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Feb 27, 2018 11:05:27 GMT
to be honest most of them,
excluding the new guys and the academy the only ones I have anytime for are
Ryan Pieters Cameron Allen Shaq and Diouf
And 3 of them are Pulis old guard....
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Feb 27, 2018 11:06:03 GMT
to be honest most of them, excluding the new guys and the academy the only ones I have anytime for are Ryan Pieters Cameron Allen Shaq Crouch and Diouf And 4 of them are Pulis old guard....
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Post by superheroantonius on Feb 27, 2018 11:12:14 GMT
Definately a bit of a negative thread this :-)
But i do think it would help the club to sell / terminate the contracts of saido / wimmer / imbula... Take a massive loss... And refocus
Be more positive. Have a happy ship And start again
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Feb 27, 2018 11:13:19 GMT
and I'd add that this is one of the single biggest reasons we are in such a mess. bad attitudes, primadonas, poor work ethic and dare I say it pretty much a continuation of the legacy left at QPR.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 11:13:57 GMT
FFS....Worst post EVER...
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Feb 27, 2018 11:15:20 GMT
Definately a bit of a negative thread this :-) But i do think it would help the club to sell / terminate the contracts of saido / wimmer / imbula... Take a massive loss... And refocus Be more positive. Have a happy ship And start again probably an argument to cut them loose now, sadly that may leave some red faces still gainfully employed so won't happen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 11:18:10 GMT
Couldn’t give a shit really as long as they give their all for the badge on their shirt and represent our great club as you would expect.
It’s funny though on the 3/4 occasions when I’ve been close to the players (when sons were mascots etc) some of the players who were lauded as being integral to the team spirit in the dressing room were out and out miserable pricks to the kids who were excited about meeting their idols, namely Bojan, Whelan and Walters on at least a couple of occasions.
Whereas those criticised for their attitude at times, the likes of Arnautovic, Choupo Moting and Wollscheid were absolutely brilliant and couldn’t do enough.......
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 11:20:18 GMT
All of them if we go down.
None of them if we stay up.
Currently want them all to do well.
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Post by superheroantonius on Feb 27, 2018 11:22:16 GMT
Wolly was like cresswell
Bit rubbish But i liked him
And obviously was dennis smith And mike doyle rolled into one, compared to wimmer
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Feb 27, 2018 11:23:52 GMT
Couldn’t give a shit really as long as they give their all for the badge on their shirt and represent our great club as you would expect. It’s funny though on the 3/4 occasions when I’ve been close to the players (when sons were mascots etc) some of the players who were lauded as being integral to the team spirit in the dressing room were out and out miserable pricks to the kids who were excited about meeting their idols, namely Bojan, Whelan and Walters on at least a couple of occasions. Whereas those criticised for their attitude at times, the likes of Arnautovic, Choupo Moting and Wollscheid were absolutely brilliant and couldn’t do enough....... also thought Wolf and Arnie were good lads
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Post by flea79 on Feb 27, 2018 11:50:20 GMT
I have a dislike of Butland, just appears to think he is something, and the moment the current "manager" says he doesn't have an attitude problem that means he really does, not to mention the times he has had a go at the fans and shushed them etc
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Post by thegift on Feb 27, 2018 11:51:26 GMT
FFS....Worst post EVER... why?
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Post by thegift on Feb 27, 2018 11:52:22 GMT
I have a dislike of Butland, just appears to think he is something, and the moment the current "manager" says he doesn't have an attitude problem that means he really does, not to mention the times he has had a go at the fans and shushed them etc Exactly my problem. 'Shhh's the fans. Media Darling. Keeps saying we need keep fighting and all this bollocks.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Feb 27, 2018 11:52:51 GMT
Why make the post if you're just going to tit us up and not mention the players you don't like? I never used to like Simonsen, he was a miserable bastard. Nobody in the current squad I dislike, Choupo is shite - but I don't really dislike him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 27, 2018 11:55:40 GMT
Jese, Zouma and Adam.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 27, 2018 11:57:38 GMT
I have a dislike of Butland, just appears to think he is something, and the moment the current "manager" says he doesn't have an attitude problem that means he really does, not to mention the times he has had a go at the fans and shushed them etc Unfortunately it's the attitude of any modern footballer who wants to be a top six player whether he's good enough or not. Saying that a few pundits are switching from Jack and pushing Pickford as England number 1. I love them and hate them all, in equal measures, in any given game!
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Post by flea79 on Feb 27, 2018 11:59:35 GMT
I have a dislike of Butland, just appears to think he is something, and the moment the current "manager" says he doesn't have an attitude problem that means he really does, not to mention the times he has had a go at the fans and shushed them etc Exactly my problem. 'Shhh's the fans. Media Darling. Keeps saying we need keep fighting and all this bollocks. every time I hear him say we need fight etc I scream in my head that he doesnt give a fuck, hes getting a move in the summer regardless and his wage will be doubled and then some and I don't really begrudge him that, its the game that we watch now, he has no allegiance to stoke and doesn't owe us anything, I think I really hate that I want to care about these players but I just don't, they don't care about us, if the worse happens and we do go down they will just slope off at final whistle and quietly disappear, I cant help but imagine the reaction of an Andy Wilkinson in that position and I imagine it would be very different
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Post by thegift on Feb 27, 2018 12:02:05 GMT
Exactly my problem. 'Shhh's the fans. Media Darling. Keeps saying we need keep fighting and all this bollocks. every time I hear him say we need fight etc I scream in my head that he doesnt give a fuck, hes getting a move in the summer regardless and his wage will be doubled and then some and I don't really begrudge him that, its the game that we watch now, he has no allegiance to stoke and doesn't owe us anything, I think I really hate that I want to care about these players but I just don't, they don't care about us, if the worse happens and we do go down they will just slope off at final whistle and quietly disappear, I cant help but imagine the reaction of an Andy Wilkinson in that position and I imagine it would be very different Its a shame isn't it. I'm pretty sure jack doesn't write his tweets himself either. He has a company do them for him, hence the constant 'we keep fighting' repetition.
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Post by pez75 on Feb 27, 2018 12:04:27 GMT
There are plenty in the squad that I think are crap, and a couple that I think are pinching a living, but if they are in the team they get my full support.
If it is a question of personality then I dont think I have a problem with any of them? Choupo lacks heart and Erik spends too much time being pally with the opposition but not a lot else winds me up...
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Post by flea79 on Feb 27, 2018 12:04:45 GMT
every time I hear him say we need fight etc I scream in my head that he doesnt give a fuck, hes getting a move in the summer regardless and his wage will be doubled and then some and I don't really begrudge him that, its the game that we watch now, he has no allegiance to stoke and doesn't owe us anything, I think I really hate that I want to care about these players but I just don't, they don't care about us, if the worse happens and we do go down they will just slope off at final whistle and quietly disappear, I cant help but imagine the reaction of an Andy Wilkinson in that position and I imagine it would be very different Its a shame isn't it. I'm pretty sure jack doesn't write his tweets himself either. He has a company do them for him, hence the constant 'we keep fighting' repetition. yes I feel very far away from the players, I sit down at the front by the tunnel and the amount of times the small kids run down to the front with a pen in hand and a piece of paper only to be ignored, not even a wave makes me sad But this is the price we have paid for a seat at the top table
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 27, 2018 12:14:42 GMT
Definately a bit of a negative thread this :-) But i do think it would help the club to sell / terminate the contracts of saido / wimmer / imbula... Take a massive loss... And refocus Be more positive. Have a happy ship And start again Could you explain how you sell (or terminate the contracts of) Berahino, Wimmer and Imbula? How do you sell them given the wages they are on? You could try to give them away but the "buying" club would have to find their wages (which could top £2.5 million per year for each player) for the life of the existing contract - unless either the player accepts a big wage cut or Stoke pay the difference between our wages and the wages the new club are prepared to pay. Much the same applies to terminating the contracts. You can terminate the contract of any player but only if you agree to pay him the wages he will be due until the end of his contract. That is the problem with these 3 horror signings. The £50 million we paid for them (less any fees we might get if we sell them) does NOT represent the full extent of our potential losses. Whatever wages remain outstanding on their contracts is also a potential loss to the club - less any wages a new club is prepared to pay.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Feb 27, 2018 12:16:23 GMT
Great rallying post Jonny. Just what we need at the moment. The previous rallying posts worked such a trick after all
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 27, 2018 12:22:13 GMT
Wimmer Imbula Berahino Fletcher
All shit signings and have damaged the club in more than one way, the Hughes legacy Welsh twat.
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Post by superheroantonius on Feb 27, 2018 12:22:15 GMT
Definately a bit of a negative thread this :-) But i do think it would help the club to sell / terminate the contracts of saido / wimmer / imbula... Take a massive loss... And refocus Be more positive. Have a happy ship And start again Could you explain how you sell (or terminate the contracts of) Berahino, Wimmer and Imbula? How do you sell them given the wages they are on? You could try to give them away but the "buying" club would have to find their wages (which could top £2.5 million per year for each player) for the life of the existing contract - unless either the player accepts a big wage cut or Stoke pay the difference between our wages and the wages the new club are prepared to pay. Much the same applies to terminating the contracts. You can terminate the contract of any player but only if you agree to pay him the wages he will be due until the end of his contract. That is the problem with these 3 horror signings. The £50 million we paid for them (less any fees we might get if we sell them) does NOT represent the full extent of our potential losses. Whatever wages remain outstanding on their contracts is also a potential loss to the club - less any wages a new club is prepared to pay. I dont think you can sell them I think you have to buy out their contracts at a huge loss. Pay all their wages until the contract ends and be rid of them
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