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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Feb 24, 2018 18:33:34 GMT
Some fans don’t have a clue about football, he has been a breath of fresh air! No coincidence that Cameron, Allen and Badou are our best 3 in midfield. Let’s hope PL sticks with it. Just a shame we dont have know one up on the same wave length as Shaqiri. Liked the look of the back four looked solid just a shame JB let a howler in.... Stick with it? We have no attacking threat with the 3. We don't have any with any other combination, at least this gives our back four some protection.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2018 19:09:23 GMT
He's Joe Allen but better technically. Only one of them should be in the side. We certainly need both of them, we do! Do you think they'd work in a 2?
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Post by caine on Feb 24, 2018 19:37:46 GMT
Some fans don’t have a clue about football, he has been a breath of fresh air! No coincidence that Cameron, Allen and Badou are our best 3 in midfield. Let’s hope PL sticks with it. Just a shame we dont have know one up on the same wave length as Shaqiri. Liked the look of the back four looked solid just a shame JB let a howler in.... Stick with it? We have no attacking threat with the 3. The midfield three? If so who would you change we have know one!? We set up like that today to stop Leicester playing.
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Post by stokiemarc on Feb 24, 2018 19:42:32 GMT
He's underwhelmed me, I feel Imbulas first few games were far more impressive. He was pretty anonymous throughout today's game. Hopefully he'll have more impact going forward
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Post by thegift on Feb 24, 2018 19:45:40 GMT
as close to Nzonzi as we shall get
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Post by vahl on Feb 24, 2018 19:49:08 GMT
I kinda thought he would drop the running with the ball stuff he was doing over in Turkey when he signed for us, he is a top player but no Yaya Toure and hopefully he can grow in to the role he has taken up.
Even at 27 he has potential to be a monster DM if we can get him doing those things more.
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Post by chuckrocky on Feb 24, 2018 19:51:47 GMT
He’s faded in every game so far, he’s never played in a league with such intensity before so will take a bit of time before we see him at his best.
He reads the game well but isn’t as dynamic as I thought he’d be. On his YouTube clips he regularly picks the ball up deep and drives up the pitch but we haven’t seen that side of his game yet.
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Post by adamsson on Feb 24, 2018 19:54:06 GMT
as close to Nzonzi as we shall get No he is no N'zonzi. But I don't hold that against him. Good work ethic could be better technically will be great in the championship next season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2018 20:49:24 GMT
Stick with it? We have no attacking threat with the 3. The midfield three? If so who would you change we have know one!? We set up like that today to stop Leicester playing. Jese and Ramadan for Allen/N'Diaye and Choupo. 4231 with Shaq central. Happy days.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 24, 2018 20:50:28 GMT
He's OK so far, no more.
Allen is more effective imo.
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Post by rawli on Feb 24, 2018 20:59:42 GMT
Do you think he'll fuck off, N'Diaye?
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Feb 24, 2018 21:11:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 21:30:17 GMT
He's far better defensively than I thought, and not as good with the ball going forward. He'd be great next to a proper holding midfielder in a 4231. We've got 5 midfielders who would play that position and one actual defensive mid, who is lower level prem standard at best. We sign the same midfielders over and over.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 24, 2018 21:34:11 GMT
We certainly need both of them, we do! Do you think they'd work in a 2? We need to continue playing the three midfielders we did today as those three give the defence the best protection. I must say I was very impressed by our midfield trio today, but we looked much more vulnerable right after Bruno had to leave the pitch and Cameron was moved to central defence. This formation seems to work for us right now. OK, we could have scored more, but in my opinion that is more down to us lacking that clinical striker.
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Post by UsAndThem on Feb 24, 2018 21:36:58 GMT
He’s quite solid all round. He pinches the ball and reads the game quite well. He’s a breath of fresh air considering we’ve had to watch a past it whelan and fletcher in the same position for the past however long. MOTD were saying how good N’didi was for them since signing but Badou played him off the park today
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2018 21:49:57 GMT
Do you think they'd work in a 2? We need to continue playing the three midfielders we did today as those three give the defence the best protection. I must say I was very impressed by our midfield trio today, but we looked much more vulnerable right after Bruno had to leave the pitch and Cameron was moved to central defence. This formation seems to work for us right now. OK, we could have scored more, but in my opinion that is more down to us lacking that clinical striker. We can't attack though and we need to win games. 433 doesn't work for us.
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Post by lordb on Feb 24, 2018 23:07:50 GMT
as close to Nzonzi as we shall get Not at all. Nzonzi was superb at keeping the ball, generally classy but got a nose bleed going forward often and perhaps lacked graft. Badou is all action,has a good turn on him but you wouldn't describe him as classy. Nzonzi and Allen are two busy bees who can play a bit.
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 25, 2018 0:11:58 GMT
I think he is a breath of fresh air. He has done his bit in the matches played and I think will get better as he adjusts to the Premier League. My only reservation is that he has not yet had to contend with one of the top 6 sides, who might expose him.
As an aside:
The transfer team get some right rollickings on here and they are generally justified, but the acquisitions of Bauer, Badou and Stafy this last January have been generally excellent business, so they deserve some praise.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 25, 2018 0:45:59 GMT
I think he is a breath of fresh air. He has done his bit in the matches played and I think will get better as he adjusts to the Premier League. My only reservation is that he has not yet had to contend with one of the top 6 sides, who might expose him. As an aside: The transfer team get some right rollickings on here and they are generally justified, but the acquisitions of Bauer, Badou and Stafy this last January have been generally excellent business, so they deserve some praise. Badou is good but he wasn't what we needed.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 25, 2018 1:05:09 GMT
He's far better defensively than I thought, and not as good with the ball going forward. He'd be great next to a proper holding midfielder in a 4231. We've got 5 midfielders who would play that position and one actual defensive mid, who is lower level prem standard at best. We sign the same midfielders over and over. It's worked for Arsenal! 😁
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 25, 2018 1:05:35 GMT
I think he is a breath of fresh air. He has done his bit in the matches played and I think will get better as he adjusts to the Premier League. My only reservation is that he has not yet had to contend with one of the top 6 sides, who might expose him. As an aside: The transfer team get some right rollickings on here and they are generally justified, but the acquisitions of Bauer, Badou and Stafy this last January have been generally excellent business, so they deserve some praise. Badou is good but he wasn't what we needed. Like Allen? 😜
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 25, 2018 1:06:37 GMT
Badou is good but he wasn't what we needed. Like Allen? 😜 Well yeah. Another box to box midfielder. Only one of them should be in the side.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 25, 2018 1:13:29 GMT
Well yeah. Another box to box midfielder. Only one of them should be in the side. Depends if you want to play 4-2-3-1 until the end of time, I suppose. I keep waiting for this fabled "sitter" to come and rescue us. I don't see many defensive midfielders who just "sit". They usually contribute something going forward, too.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 25, 2018 1:14:36 GMT
Well yeah. Another box to box midfielder. Only one of them should be in the side. Depends if you want to play 4-2-3-1 until the end of time, I suppose. I keep waiting for this fabled "sitter" to come and rescue us. I don't see many defensive midfielders who just "sit". They usually contribute something going forward, too. They also have some level of discipline. These two don't.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 25, 2018 1:18:31 GMT
Depends if you want to play 4-2-3-1 until the end of time, I suppose. I keep waiting for this fabled "sitter" to come and rescue us. I don't see many defensive midfielders who just "sit". They usually contribute something going forward, too. They also have some level of discipline. These two don't. Bit early to judge Badou, I think.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 25, 2018 1:22:55 GMT
They also have some level of discipline. These two don't. Bit early to judge Badou, I think. He's an all action, leave a gap here and there midfielder, that's pretty clear to see. Nothing wrong with that. But playing alongside another one in a midfield two? Then you have an issue. 433 isn't working for us going forward and it has to change or we will go down meekly.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 25, 2018 1:34:29 GMT
Bit early to judge Badou, I think. He's an all action, leave a gap here and there midfielder, that's pretty clear to see. Nothing wrong with that. But playing alongside another one in a midfield two? Then you have an issue. 433 isn't working for us going forward and it has to change or we will go down meekly. I think it is OK for certain matches, but I would like to see us play Ramadan and Jese out wide in some games with Choupo-Moting up front (not that I overly rate him, but he at least holds the ball well). I also don't think we cross the ball often or well enough, and that hurts us. I don't get the impression PL will change the formation much, though.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 25, 2018 1:34:50 GMT
Bit early to judge Badou, I think. He's an all action, leave a gap here and there midfielder, that's pretty clear to see. Nothing wrong with that. But playing alongside another one in a midfield two? Then you have an issue. 433 isn't working for us going forward and it has to change or we will go down meekly. He's essentially exactly the same player as Allen but it's going to take a very brave manager to drop one of them. I guess the best that we can hope for, is that against Citeh and Spurs he sticks with them both in a 433 but against Everton and Palace he has the balls to drop one of them and replace that player with a winger in a 4231, with Shaqiri as the number 10.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 1:37:32 GMT
Looked ok but were a team chasing points and have got zero luck.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 25, 2018 1:42:08 GMT
He's an all action, leave a gap here and there midfielder, that's pretty clear to see. Nothing wrong with that. But playing alongside another one in a midfield two? Then you have an issue. 433 isn't working for us going forward and it has to change or we will go down meekly. He's essentially exactly the same player as Allen but it's going to take a very brave manager to drop one of them. I guess the best that we can hope for, is that against Citeh and Spurs he sticks with them both in a 433 but against Everton and Palace he has the balls to drop one of them and replace that player with a winger in a 4231, with Shaqiri as the number 10. Very well put. Love to see Rammers or Jese(or even both) for the games you mention.
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