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Post by bathstoke on Feb 11, 2018 13:49:40 GMT
1. Denial and isolation; 2. Anger; 3. Bargaining; 4. Depression; 5. Acceptance. Some controversy around this theory as some psychiatrists think it’s limiting, but for what it’s worth I’m at anger. I would stick pins into Lesley at the minute. I might baulk at torturing Coates due to his age, but I’m definitely in anger mode. £@#&!n Seething
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Post by stokeykez on Feb 11, 2018 13:53:05 GMT
Still in denial, acceptance will not start until it's mathematically impossible
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Post by greystokie on Feb 11, 2018 13:55:58 GMT
Acceptance, after yesterday.😕
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Feb 11, 2018 13:56:04 GMT
I am at stage 4 Depression & have been for some time. I have to go to work tomorrow & they are mostly Wolves fans were i live i will have to listen to there gloating & how they are about to pass us & leave us behind. The way things are at the moment it could be sometime before we play each other again sad very sad.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 13:58:18 GMT
I'm in anger.
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Post by Billy the kid on Feb 11, 2018 13:58:23 GMT
Acceptance, after yesterday.😕 Same here
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Post by onionman on Feb 11, 2018 14:02:37 GMT
1. Denial and isolation; 2. Anger; 3. Bargaining; 4. Depression; 5. Acceptance. Some controversy around this theory as some psychiatrists think it’s limiting, but for what it’s worth I’m at anger. I would stick pins into Lesley at the minute. I might baulk at torturing Coates due to his age, but I’m definitely in anger mode. £@#&!n Seething Denial lasted about a week, after Lambert's first press conference and the win over Huddersfield, but finished in that Watford match. I'm not sure what bargaining could possibly be done. Throw Shawcross up front for a match as a madcap "well nothing else has worked" option? I'm planning on switching straight from anger to depression when it becomes clear the Hughes legacy will last for years. That point will probably arrive in the summer when Lambert or the new manager won't be able to buy any players because of the wankers Hughes has hung around our neck.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 14:10:48 GMT
I'm beyond all of these. I just cannot believe how shit we have become! It's awful. We should not be in this position. Dereliction of duty by the upper echelons at Stoke. They do not deserve our support, and they have virtually lost mine. Sad and sorry but true!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 14:13:19 GMT
I accepted this weeks ago - it is plain to see we aint good enough
We've had 10 seasons and if that was offered to us when we went up we all would have grabbed it. So we have to regroup and go again.
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Post by towraytek on Feb 11, 2018 14:16:31 GMT
Depressed yes, but the 'deceased' is still in intensive care and the medics have yet to suggest the life support be turned off.
So let's not start planning the Stoke funeral quite yet.
We need a miracle, but they do happen.
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Post by poethebald on Feb 11, 2018 14:18:17 GMT
I'm furious and depressed at the same time All this is ridiculous, we should not be in this position but due to the appalling mis management by the senior figures in the boardroom we are.Its depressing because we've seen this all before, but as the 26th richest club in the world there are no excuses this time.Its going to be a long way back if we are relegated and the club will have a lot of bridge building to do with the supporters.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 11, 2018 14:19:47 GMT
Yes but 2 months a go we had the usual crew telling us everything was ok🤔”Where are you”
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Post by malteser68 on Feb 11, 2018 14:22:59 GMT
I'm between anger and depression
Never was in the 'bargaining' stage
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 11, 2018 14:24:07 GMT
Depressingly angry
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 11, 2018 14:26:21 GMT
Yes but 2 months a go we had the usual crew telling us everything was ok🤔”Where are you” Obviously, they were just in denial
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 11, 2018 14:27:55 GMT
Acceptance for me, though having lost my mother last year, using grief analogies for football doesn't really work for me.
For us older types, what our club used to be and used to mean died to great degree when we moved stadiums. Football is an awful industry now and exists at the higher levels mainly to extract money from fans.
I've not been comfortable with it for a long time and only stuck around "because it's Stoke", the shameful debacle of the past two years, including players insulting fans and what have you, culminating in this relegation, means this is my 'jumping off point'. The next generation of fans can suffer in the lower leagues for decades, I've already served my time doing that, not doing it again. I'm too old.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Feb 11, 2018 14:28:20 GMT
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Post by 1982stokie on Feb 11, 2018 14:28:29 GMT
I felt at the end of last season if things didn't change massively we were really struggle this season, again we have being hoping there would be 3 worse teams than us that's no way to operate as a premier league club. We have too many poor players, If we stay up it will be a miracle but ultimately we will be in the same situation next season.
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 11, 2018 14:32:04 GMT
Well I’m still well within anger....at those wankers running the club, the former wanker of a manager and the vast majority of the wanker players. They have all seriously pissed me off.......it was just so very, very avoidable.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 14:32:55 GMT
Denial that Hughes could still do it and later Lambert was the man to save us
Anger at the board making a decision a season and a half late
Bargaining that QSF swapped for Hughes would be the man to save us
Depression at the shambles that was the recruitment process for players the last two seasons and Hughes replacement this season
Acceptance that the shambles that was the last few seasons, the club run on a shoestring has finally condemned us to relegation as every result, every decision just seems to go against us
At least next season it'll be easier get a ticket and there'll be more midweek games to get to, with promotion something to aim for afters several seasons of mediocrity
A downturn in fortunes that needs learning from next season
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 11, 2018 14:34:01 GMT
I accepted this weeks ago - it is plain to see we aint good enough We've had 10 seasons and if that was offered to us when we went up we all would have grabbed it. So we have to regroup and go again. Can I ask what you do for a living Mazz...
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Post by redrob on Feb 11, 2018 14:35:20 GMT
Acceptance for me, though having lost my mother last year, using grief analogies for football doesn't really work for me. For us older types, what our club used to be and used to mean died to great degree when we moved stadiums. Football is an awful industry now and exists at the higher levels mainly to extract money from fans. I've not been comfortable with it for a long time and only stuck around "because it's Stoke", the shameful debacle of the past two years, including players insulting fans and what have you, culminating in this relegation, means this is my 'jumping off point'. The next generation of fans can suffer in the lower leagues for decades, I've already served my time doing that, not doing it again. I'm too old. Sorry to hear about your mum a timely reminder that while we are all a bit sore and depressed at the state we are in it’s not life and death and somethings mean more than football. For my part I moved my seat to the front of block 19 because my younger brothers ashes are buried in front of it so we are still at the match together
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Post by leicspotter on Feb 11, 2018 14:36:12 GMT
Wobbling between anger, acceptance and denial...5pm yesterday was acceptance, then I saw the highlights and got angry...and for a few moments moved to denial "maybe we can escape". Truth is, for most of the 90 minutes this team looked like a side already relegated and, whilst my heart says we can stay up, my head has already realised that we are doomed Worst of all, this doesn't look like a squad that might easily "bounce back" so we may be looking at many years out of the top flight...again
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Post by auntiegeorge on Feb 11, 2018 14:36:39 GMT
I'm in 2, 3 & 4 all at once! 5 will come within a month or so.
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Post by Janet in ST5 on Feb 11, 2018 14:47:44 GMT
I began the season at stage 5. Not a doom monger, just seen it so many times before. I wasn’t a fan of Hughes so hoped he’d be dealt with as soon as it was apparent he could achieve no more. He ripped the heart out of the club, destroyed the fitness levels, seems to have introduced indiscipline, and now we will all reap the benefit. How many injuries too? All this stop start, two home games, two away games, international breaks, and all the influence that comes from the media has just about destroyed any remaining enjoyment of the game. After the failure to secure 3 points yesterday, I have accepted the fate of the club will be relegation, followed by a massive exodus, but I’m almost looking forward to a different pace of football next season, playing games like they matter.
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Post by samba :) on Feb 11, 2018 14:49:45 GMT
Im 1 2 and 3
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Post by loosestools on Feb 11, 2018 15:01:08 GMT
The SCFC website should just play solemn Russian funeral music 24/7. We are dead and could very easily end up bottom. Why I ask myself - I could go on forever. Obviously acceptance from my point of view.
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Post by tony1234 on Feb 11, 2018 15:03:52 GMT
I'm beyond all of these. I just cannot believe how shit we have become! It's awful. We should not be in this position. Dereliction of duty by the upper echelons at Stoke. They do not deserve our support, and they have virtually lost mine. Sad and sorry but true! That sounds like you are going from denial to bargaining. 'this can't be happening... If only... It still won't happen if...'. You are a better man than I for not giving up Look back on the Stoke posts from the start of the season when we really inadequately prepared. I think many of us engaged in collective denial that our club was being mis-run. (No RB, no CDM, no CF, no pace, coaching issues, inability to land targets, a net zero spend etc) Results then ineptitude created anger. Then bargaining started - with us saying, 'if we could just get this player or that we will be ok." Those who said change was needed from last summer we're right though. Sadly I also think the Lambert appointment shows Coates is in denial. The club has needed a new culture, staff, systems, methods bringing in for the past 1-2 years. Lambert will add a bit of structure to our system on the pitch - but he wont change 'the way things are done round here' -like O'Neill or rowett might have.
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Post by marylandstoke on Feb 11, 2018 15:09:00 GMT
Like the Shawcross idea
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 11, 2018 15:25:46 GMT
He used to be one of our top scorers. Bargaining
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