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Post by robstokie on Feb 3, 2018 23:14:14 GMT
Brighton 3
Leicester 0
Soton 1
Man City 0
Everton 1
Arsenal 0
Spurs 0
West Ham 1
Burnley 1
Liverpool 0
Palace 3
Swansea 1
That makes it 35 points for me. I don't think we will get hammered (apart from by maybe Man City) and we will compete - but I can't see us winning enough to scrape survival, unless someone above us hits the skids big-time. We will run it close, but we will just miss out in my honest opinion - the damage may well have already been done - look at the games we've given away points with sloppy defending and silly mistakes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2018 23:17:20 GMT
The biggest worry is it could quite easily be
Brighton 1
Leicester 0
Soton 0
Man City 0
Everton 0
Arsenal 0
Spurs 0
West Ham 0
Burnley 0
Liverpool 0
Palace 1
Swansea 0
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 3, 2018 23:22:56 GMT
We're already into a situation where we're going to need an unlikely result from somewhere to even reach 38 points.
One thing's for certain: at best, we're going into the last game needing a result at Swansea.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Feb 3, 2018 23:25:47 GMT
I don't think this group has the character, just hope.Im wrong
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2018 23:26:27 GMT
Even the most optimistic Stoke fan surely can't see many more than 12 points from that lot.
We are going down, make no mistake.
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Post by robstokie on Feb 3, 2018 23:30:38 GMT
We're already into a situation where we're going to need an unlikely result from somewhere to even reach 38 points. One thing's for certain: at best, we're going into the last game needing a result at Swansea. To be honest, I would take that at the moment. This isn't about today's result - this is about penny pinching and dithering from the board, complacency from all within the transfer team about shortcomings in midfield and at full back that took 4 transfer windows to at least be even partially addressed and the utter incompetence of Sparky over the last 18 months regarding addressing fitness, motivation, organisation, tactics and in game management. |
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Post by chuckrocky on Feb 3, 2018 23:31:57 GMT
We’re going need to get the majority of our points at home, I honestly don’t think we’ll win another away game this season.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Feb 3, 2018 23:41:57 GMT
Not sure we've ever been mathetically safe at this stage so to an extent it's spring business as usual.
Interesting run in with the added nuances of a new manager and a few funky signings to boot etc.
We're in the mix no doubt.
No use crystal balling it.
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Post by VolvicStokie on Feb 3, 2018 23:44:39 GMT
We aren't going down at all.
Bournemouth took apart last season's Champions a few days ago
A point would have been decent all things considered. But hey ho
We'll beat Brighton and we'll most certainly pick up points on the road.
The bonus games are against the big boys. We'll beat one of them
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 3, 2018 23:47:36 GMT
Brighton 1
Leicester 3
Soton 3
Man City 0
Everton 0
Arsenal 0
Spurs 0
West Ham 1
Burnley 3
Liverpool 0
Palace 1
Swansea 3
I'm going for 15
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Feb 3, 2018 23:51:20 GMT
Brighton 3
Leicester 1
Soton 1
Man City 0
Everton 3
Arsenal 0
Spurs 0
West Ham 1 or 0
Burnley 1
Liverpool 0
Palace 3
Swansea 1
37 or 38 points for me.
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Post by blackpoolred on Feb 4, 2018 0:02:01 GMT
12 games left, 4 against top 6 teams, which really leaves 8 games left in which we would need 16pts to get to get to the 40pt mark, absolutely no fecking chance whatsoever - possible to get to the 35/36 mark if we beat Brighton
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Post by miggoscfc on Feb 4, 2018 0:07:19 GMT
Brighton 1 Leicester 3 Soton 3 Man City 0 Everton 0 Arsenal 0 Spurs 0 West Ham 1 Burnley 3 Liverpool 0 Palace 1 Swansea 3 I'm going for 15 We won't get 3 against Leicester and that puts us right in the thick of it and turn the 3 from Burnley into 1 or 0 and we are down. Next week is the biggest game in the last 10 years. We lose we are down it's as simple as that. |
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Post by march4 on Feb 4, 2018 0:16:56 GMT
If we can maintain an intensity of performance we will just about survive.
I worry that our players have been so psychologically scarred from defeats under Hughes that we really will struggle to get more than 35 points.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 4, 2018 2:00:12 GMT
Brighton 1 Leicester 3 Soton 3 Man City 0 Everton 0 Arsenal 0 Spurs 0 West Ham 1 Burnley 3 Liverpool 0 Palace 1 Swansea 3 I'm going for 15 We won't get 3 against Leicester and that puts us right in the thick of it and turn the 3 from Burnley into 1 or 0 and we are down. Next week is the biggest game in the last 10 years. We lose we are down it's as simple as that. I'm going with Leicester as our out the blue coupon buster win. It really isn't that simple at all. |
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Feb 4, 2018 2:36:54 GMT
5 wins from these 8 required = 39 points. Should be enough. But that’s going some. Draws almost pointless due to goal difference.
Brighton
Leicester
Soton
Everton
West Ham
Burnley
Palace
Swansea
Writing off
Spurs
Arsenal
Man City
Liverpool
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Feb 4, 2018 3:53:12 GMT
Not enough winnable games left and not enough goals in the team to get the wins we need. The board have absolutely fucked us over leaving the sacking of Hughes far too late and not giving the new manager enough time to sign the players we need. Particularly a striker who are always the most expensive and most difficult deals to tie down.
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Post by pb1863 on Feb 4, 2018 8:05:50 GMT
Brighton 3 Leicester 0 Soton 1 Man City 0 Everton 1 Arsenal 0 Spurs 0 West Ham 1 Burnley 1 Liverpool 0 Palace 3 Swansea 1 That makes it 35 points for me. I don't think we will get hammered (apart from by maybe Man City) and we will compete - but I can't see us winning enough to scrape survival, unless someone above us hits the skids big-time. We will run it close, but we will just miss out in my honest opinion - the damage may well have already been done - look at the games we've given away points with sloppy defending and silly mistakes. Brighton 3 Leicester 0 Soton 1 Man City 0 Everton 3 Arsenal 0 Spurs 0 West Ham 1 Burnley 3 Liverpool 0 Palace 3 Swansea 3 17 points and 41. We will survive Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/276692/last-12-games-points#ixzz567msvo7x |
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Post by SCFC92 on Feb 4, 2018 8:15:04 GMT
Brighton 3
Leicester 0
Soton 3
Man City 0
Everton 1
Arsenal 0
Spurs 0
West Ham 1
Burnley 3
Liverpool 0
Palace 3
Swansea 3
14 pts finishing on 38, will it be enough?
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Post by miggoscfc on Feb 4, 2018 9:54:27 GMT
Brighton 3 Leicester 0 Soton 3 Man City 0 Everton 1 Arsenal 0 Spurs 0 West Ham 1 Burnley 3 Liverpool 0 Palace 3 Swansea 3 14 pts finishing on 38, will it be enough? Looking at last season compared to this 35 should be enough but it's going to be close. Most have us taking 6 points from the last 2 games but factor in that both those 2 could be playing for prem survival as well makes it harder than those top 6 games. We simply have to win next week. |
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Post by SCFC92 on Feb 4, 2018 9:59:05 GMT
Brighton 3 Leicester 0 Soton 3 Man City 0 Everton 1 Arsenal 0 Spurs 0 West Ham 1 Burnley 3 Liverpool 0 Palace 3 Swansea 3 14 pts finishing on 38, will it be enough? Looking at last season compared to this 35 should be enough but it's going to be close. Most have us taking 6 points from the last 2 games but factor in that both those 2 could be playing for prem survival as well makes it harder than those top 6 games. We simply have to win next week. Just noticed my maths are completely off there I have us getting 17 pts and finishing on 41.. I can't see us finishing with that high a Pts total... And us taking 17 pts from 36 is unthinkable after our pts haul so far. God its close! |
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Post by enuntio on Feb 4, 2018 10:02:23 GMT
14 or 16 points is what we will get
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Post by lawrieleslie on Feb 4, 2018 10:04:49 GMT
It’s all about confidence imo. A string of 3 or 4 defeats that some are predicting would not be good for confidence as demonstrated for most of the season.
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Post by Ex-term-oat-cake on Feb 4, 2018 10:18:39 GMT
Just shows how important the Brighton game is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2018 10:29:00 GMT
Nobody can predict what will happen from now until the end of the season. The league has thrown up some ridiculous results. Even the most brain dead of person wouldn’t say Bournemouth would beat chelsea 3-0. For me the damage has been done. We’ve just had 3 huge games and again we pick up a piss poor 4 points. When you look at our run of games around the corner you have to fear the worst
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Post by stokemark on Feb 4, 2018 10:54:12 GMT
We aren't going down at all. Bournemouth took apart last season's Champions a few days ago A point would have been decent all things considered. But hey ho We'll beat Brighton and we'll most certainly pick up points on the road. The bonus games are against the big boys. We'll beat one of them 'We aren't going down at all' The sort of complacent talk that got us in to this mess in the first place |
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Post by VolvicStokie on Feb 4, 2018 11:11:41 GMT
We aren't going down at all. Bournemouth took apart last season's Champions a few days ago A point would have been decent all things considered. But hey ho We'll beat Brighton and we'll most certainly pick up points on the road. The bonus games are against the big boys. We'll beat one of them 'We aren't going down at all' The sort of complacent talk that got us in to this mess in the first place No it's called being optimistic Something a certain percentage of posters on here have never heard of. Lambert has had 3 games in charge FFS. Its not going to happen overnight. The bottom of the table is so tight . We've still got to play teams around us and a win against Brighton at home will make everything look a little bit more rosier. We do need an away win, perhaps at Southampton who I'd say is one of the weaker teams down there at the moment. I'm not saying "we'll be fine" but i am 100% confident we aren't going down |
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Post by stokecity4life on Feb 4, 2018 11:52:25 GMT
One thing is now fundamentally clear.
We have to win on Saturday against Brighton, nothing else will do.
My view is we win that, we will stay up.
We lose, we will go down.
Those 3 points and the confidence it would give its now critical.
vs Huddersfield - much improved, clean sheet and we won.
vs Watford - a better opposition, unlucky not to take chances, improvements seem and another clean sheet.
vs Bournmouth - best 1st half away from home this season, unlucky not to be more than 1 up at half time, fitness showed in second half and poor defending for both goals, very unlucky to lose.
The above shows there has been improvements since Hughes, defensively, attacking wise and you can see it in the players there are improvements, fitness doesn`t come overnight and this is where Hughes left us fucked.
The addition of Bauer and Badou could be the turning points....
If you add a crystal ball anaysis of Saturday to the above of:
vs Brighton - fired up performance, convincing win, clean sheet and much high fitness through the 90 mins, Badou was in control of the midfield....
Then do you really see us not having a very good chance of staying up?
It`s a huge, huge game, i would go as far as to say our most important game in 10 years.
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 4, 2018 11:57:19 GMT
'We aren't going down at all' The sort of complacent talk that got us in to this mess in the first place No it's called being optimistic Something a certain percentage of posters on here have never heard of. Lambert has had 3 games in charge FFS. Its not going to happen overnight. The bottom of the table is so tight . We've still got to play teams around us and a win against Brighton at home will make everything look a little bit more rosier. We do need an away win, perhaps at Southampton who I'd say is one of the weaker teams down there at the moment.
I'm not saying "we'll be fine" but i am 100% confident we aren't going downIf we manage to stay in the league then we are' fine ' so your claim of 100% confidence is saying exactly that. Make no mistake we are in a very difficult situation, sure we can stay up but over confidence and false optimism at board level are what allowed this mess to develop in the first place |
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 4, 2018 12:17:36 GMT
The home loss against Newcastle made relegation a very real prospect. Since then we have failed to pick up a few points that we were all banking on: a win against Watford and a point at Bournemouth.
If we are going to stay up we must pick up all of the points we may be expected to from now on and a few that we normally see as bonus points.
I think we will need something from the Everton game and at least a point from the visits to Citeh, Liverpool and Arsenal( that's at least a point from the three combined not one each).
The situation is dire and if I was a neutral I would be betting on Stoke going down.
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