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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2018 3:50:35 GMT
Yes I am “one of those” who thinks that referring to our brand new manager as a dumb jock cunt after we’ve lost our first game under him is a bit pathetic and embarrassing. Sadly I think it’s probably a sign of the times. Anyway carry on You’re right it is the sign of the times, anyone with PowerPoint and no fucking clue about subbing or managing players who they asked to press for 70 fucking mins can be a PL manager! Posters can also gargle their balls as if the manager is the pele of management in under three matches too! Keep trudging on you fucking pathetic diddler who accepts absolute fucking stupidity in front of your eyes. I bet you we’re a Hughes man until the end too 😂 I’m tired of fucking idiots at this club. You really are an absolutely almighty fucking idiot!
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Post by TexasPotter on Feb 4, 2018 3:51:53 GMT
You’re right it is the sign of the times, anyone with PowerPoint and no fucking clue about subbing or managing players who they asked to press for 70 fucking mins can be a PL manager! Posters can also gargle their balls as if the manager is the pele of management in under three matches too! Keep trudging on you fucking pathetic diddler who accepts absolute fucking stupidity in front of your eyes. I bet you we’re a Hughes man until the end too 😂 I’m tired of fucking idiots at this club. You really are an absolutely almighty fucking idiot! Haha 😂 what a foolish one here no substance chode.
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Post by thegift on Feb 4, 2018 4:23:15 GMT
Someone blind, deaf and who spends their days stuffing crayons up their nose would have realised we needed Diouf on at half time and subs way earlier, he’ll get pelters for today and he deserves every single one of them. BM whilst you're 100% right on this, what he did against huddersfield and watford Hughes could never of dreamt. That in itself warrants my approval, just cut him some slack. All i ask is that he learns from his mistakes, something hughes didn't in 4 years.
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Post by thegift on Feb 4, 2018 4:25:03 GMT
Ohh I’ll still back him, if only I could backhand him around the 65min each week we might have a chance... I’ll be there on Saturday, sitting right behind him. So I’ll be sure to smack him in the back of the head if doesn’t make changes earlier. Stupid question, (i've never sat dugout side) do you reckon hurling 'make some subs' or to that effect, the management can actually hear you if your sat behind them?
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Post by TexasPotter on Feb 4, 2018 4:26:10 GMT
Someone blind, deaf and who spends their days stuffing crayons up their nose would have realised we needed Diouf on at half time and subs way earlier, he’ll get pelters for today and he deserves every single one of them. BM whilst you're 100% right on this, what he did against huddersfield and watford Hughes could never of dreamt. That in itself warrants my approval, just cut him some slack. All i ask is that he learns from his mistakes, something hughes didn't in 4 years. Didn’t Hughes beat Liverpool 6-1? Or did everyone forget all that with those two mega wins above? 😂 Huddersfield and Watford my god chills. He should beat those!
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Post by thegift on Feb 4, 2018 4:28:57 GMT
BM whilst you're 100% right on this, what he did against huddersfield and watford Hughes could never of dreamt. That in itself warrants my approval, just cut him some slack. All i ask is that he learns from his mistakes, something hughes didn't in 4 years. Didn’t Hughes beat Liverpool 6-1? Or did everyone forget all that with those two mega wins above? 😂 Huddersfield and Watford my god chills. He should beat those! You kind of mis read my point, i meant if hughes had stayed in charge, there is no way we could of got 4 points from them 2 games, given the position we are in.
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Post by TexasPotter on Feb 4, 2018 4:32:23 GMT
Didn’t Hughes beat Liverpool 6-1? Or did everyone forget all that with those two mega wins above? 😂 Huddersfield and Watford my god chills. He should beat those! You kind of mis read my point, i meant if hughes had stayed in charge, there is no way we could of got 4 points from them 2 games, given the position we are in. Yes, the new manager bounce nothing of note but we’ve all seen the air out the balloon much quicker than expected and Lambert has assumed full Hughes mode circa December. No subs, no action and no idea why he lost. I don’t think he’s prepared for what is needed tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2018 4:35:10 GMT
You kind of mis read my point, i meant if hughes had stayed in charge, there is no way we could of got 4 points from them 2 games, given the position we are in. Yes, the new manager bounce nothing of note but we’ve all seen the air out the balloon much quicker than expected and Lambert has assumed full Hughes mode circa December. No subs, no action and no idea why he lost. I don’t think he’s prepared for what is needed tbh. We have a new Benji on board I think.
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Post by TexasPotter on Feb 4, 2018 4:38:44 GMT
Yes, the new manager bounce nothing of note but we’ve all seen the air out the balloon much quicker than expected and Lambert has assumed full Hughes mode circa December. No subs, no action and no idea why he lost. I don’t think he’s prepared for what is needed tbh. We have a new Benji on board I think. Ha you think there is only Benji saying we’ve missed the boat? Shit, there’s loads of people saying that stuff! The board, managers two of them this season and e staff are incompetent beyond hell when you need action! You are a moron then 😂
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Post by thegift on Feb 4, 2018 4:39:40 GMT
You kind of mis read my point, i meant if hughes had stayed in charge, there is no way we could of got 4 points from them 2 games, given the position we are in. Yes, the new manager bounce nothing of note but we’ve all seen the air out the balloon much quicker than expected and Lambert has assumed full Hughes mode circa December. No subs, no action and no idea why he lost. I don’t think he’s prepared for what is needed tbh. Lambert has a massive task, which I'm sure he did know before he took the job. I genuinely do like him as a person, he comes across down to earth, friendly and gets involved. The board have left it to late though. If you were in a job, you sacked someone for under performing and brought in a new employee that new the basics about your line of work but knew very little about the company, you'd give him longer than a few months to get your company performing again, right? You wouldn't expect miracles after 3 weeks?
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Post by TexasPotter on Feb 4, 2018 4:41:30 GMT
Yes, the new manager bounce nothing of note but we’ve all seen the air out the balloon much quicker than expected and Lambert has assumed full Hughes mode circa December. No subs, no action and no idea why he lost. I don’t think he’s prepared for what is needed tbh. Lambert has a massive task, which I'm sure he did know before he took the job. I genuinely do like him as a person, he comes across down to earth, friendly and gets involved. The board have left it to late though. If you were in a job, you sacked someone for under performing and brought in a new employee that new the basics about your line of work but knew very little about the company, you'd give him longer than a few months to get your company performing again, right? You wouldn't expect miracles after 3 weeks? 😂 But he can’t do the basics!?!?!?!? He left two in the hole !
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Post by thegift on Feb 4, 2018 4:43:18 GMT
Lambert has a massive task, which I'm sure he did know before he took the job. I genuinely do like him as a person, he comes across down to earth, friendly and gets involved. The board have left it to late though. If you were in a job, you sacked someone for under performing and brought in a new employee that new the basics about your line of work but knew very little about the company, you'd give him longer than a few months to get your company performing again, right? You wouldn't expect miracles after 3 weeks? 😂 But he can’t do the basics!?!?!?!? He left two in the hole ! You still wouldn't sack him after 3 weeks would you? Give the guy a chance, i didn't want him here but fuck me i'd of taken TANGO over MH.
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Post by TexasPotter on Feb 4, 2018 4:45:49 GMT
😂 But he can’t do the basics!?!?!?!? He left two in the hole ! You still wouldn't sack him after 3 weeks would you? Give the guy a chance, i didn't want him here but fuck me i'd of taken TANGO over MH. See here, I know y’all soft as hell these days but if you hire say a mechanic, who can’t substitute parts mid engine retrofit, what the fuck is the point? I’m giving him a chance! But I’m not going to look at stupid fucking shit and say, “ he’s new, let it slide” 😂
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Post by thegift on Feb 4, 2018 4:47:57 GMT
You still wouldn't sack him after 3 weeks would you? Give the guy a chance, i didn't want him here but fuck me i'd of taken TANGO over MH. See here, I know y’all soft as hell these days but if you hire say a mechanic, who can’t substitute parts mid engine retrofit, what the fuck is the point? I’m giving him a chance! But I’m not going to look at stupid fucking shit and say, “ he’s new, let it slide” 😂 So if we go down are you blaming hughes, lambert or coates?
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Post by TexasPotter on Feb 4, 2018 4:51:19 GMT
See here, I know y’all soft as hell these days but if you hire say a mechanic, who can’t substitute parts mid engine retrofit, what the fuck is the point? I’m giving him a chance! But I’m not going to look at stupid fucking shit and say, “ he’s new, let it slide” 😂 So if we go down are you blaming hughes, lambert or coates? All of them but Lambert the least obviously. The point is, see you don’t have to shuffle positions at any line of work like this if YOU DO YOUR JOB! Right! The basics like subbing in players!!!!! If you correct the fuck ups you can keep your job but how successful is it to hear the last guys issues and then mimic them? Would you do that in a new position?
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Post by exiledpotter on Feb 4, 2018 11:35:14 GMT
Stoke City vs Bournemouth ... played 28; won 13; drawn 7; lost 8. Best result 3-0 FA cup (Jan 03). Worst result: 4-0 defeat League 2 (Feb 99). If my maths is right: Goals for: 36 Goals conceded: 30. Clearly we are a far better team and should always beat them (or not). I'm just trying to say that losing against Bournemouth isn't the end of the world .... definitely annoying after such a positive start today ... and that there is still time for PL to fix our short term problems and keep us up. My point as it’s our worst result at Bournemouth in the premier league , not that losing tchampionship Bournemouth is anything other than expected , said all season there business in the last two,summers took them flying past us , eg Arter no,longer in the team two years on , crouch still leading ours 3 years on I accept your main argument that we have stalled and that other clubs have crept passed us (Bournemouth) ... I think Burnley are the ones who have flown passed this year. I just think you spoil your point with the 'worst ever Premier League result against Bournemouth' hysteria (especially in the week when they turned over Chelsea). We do not have an Arsenal-esque God given right to beat smaller and/or newly promoted clubs .... if that's how it worked we would have been relegated years ago. We do have a right to expect a team that competes on the pitch in every game ... and for parts of yesterday's match that's what we had. It's a start.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 4, 2018 19:44:36 GMT
My point as it’s our worst result at Bournemouth in the premier league , not that losing tchampionship Bournemouth is anything other than expected , said all season there business in the last two,summers took them flying past us , eg Arter no,longer in the team two years on , crouch still leading ours 3 years on I accept your main argument that we have stalled and that other clubs have crept passed us (Bournemouth) ... I think Burnley are the ones who have flown passed this year. I just think you spoil your point with the 'worst ever Premier League result against Bournemouth' hysteria (especially in the week when they turned over Chelsea). We do not have an Arsenal-esque God given right to beat smaller and/or newly promoted clubs .... if that's how it worked we would have been relegated years ago. We do have a right to expect a team that competes on the pitch in every game ... and for parts of yesterday's match that's what we had. It's a start. Think you have missed my long held view , which is because of our lack of commitment , ambition and appalling off field management , we don’t deserve to be in the same league as Bournemouth and soon won’t be let alone deserve or expect to beat them
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Post by exiledpotter on Feb 4, 2018 20:07:29 GMT
I think it would be impossible to have missed your strongly held and oft cited views on the running of the club Benjamin. I agree that the club has stalled ... and needs some changes ... but don't share your negative views of the club as a whole. (I think the model that you want was tried by Leeds to mixed effect).
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Post by stokiekm on Feb 4, 2018 20:45:39 GMT
Which is all fair enough but does it not worry you that our new manager has arrived and failed to identify a single striker that he might want to bring in to help us, has inexplicably excluded BMI from the match day squad after he was our best player at manure, has already reverted to crouch up front and has played a left back in central midfield? These are not the actions of a manager who has done his research, knows our squad and has a clear idea of how to improve things. He's also let our key midfield arrival be photographed signing with our CEO rather than himself. My biggest fear was that we'd got a cheap patsy for the pizza boys and to me at least, that seems exactly what we've got. Isn't BMI ill? that doesn't matter though when people simply want to slate the manager
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Feb 4, 2018 21:31:31 GMT
If we go down i will blame the moaners Yep not to blame our previous manager or the board at all
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Post by discokaraoke on Feb 4, 2018 21:33:29 GMT
Over 250 min without conceding a goal is a massive improvement, only trouble is, we are not fit enough to last the 90 witch is my concern atm.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 4, 2018 21:34:52 GMT
Someone blind, deaf and who spends their days stuffing crayons up their nose would have realised we needed Diouf on at half time and subs way earlier, he’ll get pelters for today and he deserves every single one of them. BM whilst you're 100% right on this, what he did against huddersfield and watford Hughes could never of dreamt. That in itself warrants my approval, just cut him some slack. All i ask is that he learns from his mistakes, something hughes didn't in 4 years. Didn't Hughes beat Watford away and draw with Huddersfield away??
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Post by thegift on Feb 4, 2018 21:45:15 GMT
BM whilst you're 100% right on this, what he did against huddersfield and watford Hughes could never of dreamt. That in itself warrants my approval, just cut him some slack. All i ask is that he learns from his mistakes, something hughes didn't in 4 years. Didn't Hughes beat Watford away and draw with Huddersfield away?? Im talking about our current position, not what happened earlier on in the season
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 4, 2018 21:47:52 GMT
Didn't Hughes beat Watford away and draw with Huddersfield away?? Im talking about our current position, not what happened earlier on in the season You said what he did against Huddersfield and Watford, Hughes could only have dreamt of. I merely pointed out that Hughes did better, an away win and an away draw.
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Post by thegift on Feb 4, 2018 21:56:48 GMT
Im talking about our current position, not what happened earlier on in the season You said what he did against Huddersfield and Watford, Hughes could only have dreamt of. I merely pointed out that Hughes did better, an away win and an away draw. I also said in our current position. We couldn't beat coventry
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 4, 2018 22:02:44 GMT
You said what he did against Huddersfield and Watford, Hughes could only have dreamt of. I merely pointed out that Hughes did better, an away win and an away draw. I also said in our current position. We couldn't beat coventry Ok, just wasn't very clear, so you agree Hughes had s better return against Watford/Huddersfield?
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Post by thegift on Feb 4, 2018 22:12:02 GMT
I also said in our current position. We couldn't beat coventry Ok, just wasn't very clear, so you agree Hughes had s better return against Watford/Huddersfield? we couldn't beat coventry whilst he was in charge, or newcastle, or west ham. If he would of stayed in charge we would of lost to watford and huddesfield
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 4, 2018 22:32:46 GMT
Ok, just wasn't very clear, so you agree Hughes had s better return against Watford/Huddersfield? we couldn't beat coventry whilst he was in charge, or newcastle, or west ham. If he would of stayed in charge we would of lost to watford and huddesfield Maybe but he's done better against those two clubs than the current manager. I'm all for giving Lambert a chance but he's not a panacea and second half Saturday was as bad as anything Hughes served up
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Feb 4, 2018 23:16:15 GMT
Some re occurring themes in our play, approach and outcomes this season (and for so long that to expect him to have the magic answer is daft) that Lambert seems intent on ironing out. But some issues will no doubt persist.
It's a complete shift in ethos from the Hughes approach.
Working harder off the ball is a good start, but I'm not sure there's such a thing as a half press, it is a start.
There'll be teething and glitches at an okkered time, but it's the path we're pursuing.
Double training, whatever that is, will hopefully help us to achieve the press for longer etc.
Three games in.
Interested to see what occurs.
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Post by kustokie on Feb 5, 2018 0:56:14 GMT
We've conceded 2 goals in the last 3 games. we are playing by far and way better football and look like scoring in all of the games. I think Lambert has done really well and should be praised. Whether Lambert and SCFC have enough time and games to pull it around only time will tell but the first half today looks like we could challenge anyone. Be interesting to see what if any changes are made after this one 4 points from 3 games - better than 3 draws! There’s a big problem with argument. It’s 4 points against relegation rivals, which is not enough.
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