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Post by rambo61 on Feb 3, 2018 18:15:51 GMT
Crouch should always be plan b. Other than that PL has been great for me.
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Post by petershiltonsmini on Feb 3, 2018 18:15:59 GMT
We've conceded 2 goals in the last 3 games.
we are playing by far and way better football and look like scoring in all of the games.
I think Lambert has done really well and should be praised.
Whether Lambert and SCFC have enough time and games to pull it around only time will tell but the first half today looks like we could challenge anyone.
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Post by TexasPotter on Feb 3, 2018 18:26:48 GMT
Ohh I’ll still back him, if only I could backhand him around the 65min each week we might have a chance... I’ll be there on Saturday, sitting right behind him. So I’ll be sure to smack him in the back of the head if doesn’t make changes earlier. Okay mate. 😉 Code word is Vatican Cameos.
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Post by malteser68 on Feb 3, 2018 18:29:06 GMT
Christ on a bike Give Lambert a chance Agreed the subs were late, but he’s been here a little over 3 weeks and is learning about the players Not his fault the players lack fitness I appreciate time is short COYMP!!! So you mean to say that he has not been following football for the past 20 years and is yet to learn that Crouch is not the player you need when you are winning 0-1 up away at half time and need to hit the opponents on the break in the second half ????!!!! Do you need more than 3 weeks to realize that Crouch is just about as pacey and mobile as a Galapagos turtle ???!!!!
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Post by malteser68 on Feb 3, 2018 18:30:11 GMT
Crouch should always be plan b. Other than that PL has been great for me. I agree BUT the 'apart from that' is rather massive as it practically wipes out the team's ability to go forward in a pacey manner which is what the modern game is all about
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Post by malteser68 on Feb 3, 2018 18:31:24 GMT
We've conceded 2 goals in the last 3 games. we are playing by far and way better football and look like scoring in all of the games. I think Lambert has done really well and should be praised. Whether Lambert and SCFC have enough time and games to pull it around only time will tell but the first half today looks like we could challenge anyone. Must have been watching different games We disn't look like scoring against Watford nor today
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Post by oatcakesteve on Feb 3, 2018 18:37:45 GMT
We've conceded 2 goals in the last 3 games. we are playing by far and way better football and look like scoring in all of the games. I think Lambert has done really well and should be praised. Whether Lambert and SCFC have enough time and games to pull it around only time will tell but the first half today looks like we could challenge anyone. Must have been watching different games We disn't look like scoring against Watford nor today The board should give you the job then mate, we'll be in the top ten in no time. Seriously, way too many football managers here, just let Lambert do his job and let's see where we end up.
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Post by Dingdangdoo on Feb 3, 2018 18:39:16 GMT
Christ on a bike Give Lambert a chance Agreed the subs were late, but he’s been here a little over 3 weeks and is learning about the players Not his fault the players lack fitness I appreciate time is short COYMP!!! So you mean to say that he has not been following football for the past 20 years and is yet to learn that Crouch is not the player you need when you are winning 0-1 up away at half time and need to hit the opponents on the break in the second half ????!!!! Do you need more than 3 weeks to realize that Crouch is just about as pacey and mobile as a Galapagos turtle ???!!!! So you expect one manager to pick up where another left off and make 180 degree turn with more or less the same squad
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Post by jeycov on Feb 3, 2018 18:42:18 GMT
We've conceded 2 goals in the last 3 games. we are playing by far and way better football and look like scoring in all of the games. I think Lambert has done really well and should be praised. Whether Lambert and SCFC have enough time and games to pull it around only time will tell but the first half today looks like we could challenge anyone. Be interesting to see what if any changes are made after this one 4 points from 3 games - better than 3 draws!
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Post by malteser68 on Feb 3, 2018 18:42:55 GMT
So you mean to say that he has not been following football for the past 20 years and is yet to learn that Crouch is not the player you need when you are winning 0-1 up away at half time and need to hit the opponents on the break in the second half ????!!!! Do you need more than 3 weeks to realize that Crouch is just about as pacey and mobile as a Galapagos turtle ???!!!! So you expect one manager to pick up where another left off and make 180 degree turn with more or less the same squad I do not expect any miracles - the squad is dire, we all know that But YES simpe logical decisions i do expect - is that too much to ask for ?
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Post by salopian on Feb 3, 2018 18:45:18 GMT
You can't have it both ways though. It was said by both the club and Lambert that in his interview he knew implicitly the strengths and weaknesses of the squad and that he spelled out clearly his plans going forwards. Once you are in that territory there is very little wiggle room for any errors like what we've seen over the last two games. He deserves our backing absolutely. He is not immune from criticism though. Correct... How would he know the strengths and weaknesses of a team, that as a job he didn't think he could get??? He clearly flannelled the interview and the usual clowns fell for the Management bullshit they wanted to hear!! There was no mention of him after a scorer so he must of thought we were scoring enough and only conceding buckets full.........
Backing yes .... but If mistakes he does or doesn't rectify which cost us when games are running out he has little sympathy.
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Post by oatcakesteve on Feb 3, 2018 18:47:08 GMT
So you expect one manager to pick up where another left off and make 180 degree turn with more or less the same squad I do not expect any miracles - the squad is dire, we all know that But YES simpe logical decisions i do expect - is that too much to ask for ? The squad isn't dire, yes it could be better but we have enough to stay in the premier league.
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Post by malteser68 on Feb 3, 2018 18:47:46 GMT
Must have been watching different games We disn't look like scoring against Watford nor today The board should give you the job then mate, we'll be in the top ten in no time. Seriously, way too many football managers here, just let Lambert do his job and let's see where we end up. From what I've seen so far this season i believe that most of us here would have made a far better job than the managers (mainly Hughes) have done so far No rocket science, no Einstein stuff just some simple logic Hughes - (i) stop the fuckin stupidity of playing 3 at the back when we had NO WINGBACKS at the Club, an insane decision which reflects in our disastrous GD; (ii) stop playing Crouch from the 1st minute as you only make it much much simpler for the opposition to defend against us Lambert - (i) corrected, bravo; (ii) incredibly persisting with the same mistake Simple and elementary
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Post by exiledpotter on Feb 3, 2018 18:50:39 GMT
I've got over being gutted and given things a bit more thought.
Bournemouth concede goals from headers so, vs them, Crouch as Plan A works.
We then had a start to the game that people were purring about .... going by the comments on here and elsewhere, this was the Stoke that people have been waiting to see. Defenders throwing themselves in the way of shots & Jack making saves at one end ... and the team battling and creating chances at the other.
Massive credit to PL for that. However, we ran out of steam ... the ref ignored some of Bournemouth's antics but started booking players ... and we were glad to reach half time.
I think PL played it safe ... he didn't want to make changes before seeing how Bournemouth set up for the second half. He was probably worried about one of our team getting sent off; still surprised by our 'fitness' levels and thinking that Crouch might score - he nearly did. Meanwhile, they got back into the game and then took it away from us. I think if PL could go back in time he would have sent Diouf on earlier. He won't have been impressed with the way they scored their second.
Should we beat Bournemouth, probably not based on our form this season. Did we look like beating them - for a while yes, and that's what's so gutting.
Was it a better performance? Yes for a while ... and that's what's gutting too.
Has PL improved us? Yes but there is more to do .... as everyone knows it is going to be close.
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Post by malteser68 on Feb 3, 2018 18:52:21 GMT
I do not expect any miracles - the squad is dire, we all know that But YES simpe logical decisions i do expect - is that too much to ask for ? The squad isn't dire, yes it could be better but we have enough to stay in the premier league. If Ndiaye lives up to the early expectations, then the midfield would be, to an extent, sorted. Still, Cameron for me is a very poor player - very poor But then you look up front and what do you get -: 1. Diouf, a lot of people's best hopes, needs at least 5 chances per game to tuck one in, and we hardly ever create 5 chances per game 2. Berahino - no goals in 2 years 3. Crouch - slower than a Galapagos turtle, slows down our play thus practically killing off any chance of scoring from open play or on the break 4. Jese - absent most of the season and to me the only real hope if he finally decides to earn his pay A team with no real attacking options is, in my opinion, rather dire
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 3, 2018 18:53:18 GMT
The board should give you the job then mate, we'll be in the top ten in no time. Seriously, way too many football managers here, just let Lambert do his job and let's see where we end up. From what I've seen so far this season i believe that most of us here would have made a far better job than the managers (mainly Hughes) have done so far No rocket science, no Einstein stuff just some simple logic Hughes - (i) stop the fuckin stupidity of playing 3 at the back when we had NO WINGBACKS at the Club, an insane decision which reflects in our disastrous GD; (ii) stop playing Crouch from the 1st minute as you only make it much much simpler for the opposition to defend against us Lambert - (i) corrected, bravo; (ii) incredibly persisting with the same mistake Simple and elementary We haven't played 3 at the back since November and our results and performances have nosedived to even worse levels ever since.
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 3, 2018 18:53:20 GMT
Some of the language used on the matchday thread towards a guy who’s been in charge all of three weeks was an absolute disgrace. If some of our fans can’t even be at least respectful towards a brand new manager who has been nothing but humble and positive so far, frankly they deserve relegation.
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Post by oatcakesteve on Feb 3, 2018 18:55:07 GMT
The board should give you the job then mate, we'll be in the top ten in no time. Seriously, way too many football managers here, just let Lambert do his job and let's see where we end up. From what I've seen so far this season i believe that most of us here would have made a far better job than the managers (mainly Hughes) have done so far No rocket science, no Einstein stuff just some simple logic Hughes - (i) stop the fuckin stupidity of playing 3 at the back when we had NO WINGBACKS at the Club, an insane decision which reflects in our disastrous GD; (ii) stop playing Crouch from the 1st minute as you only make it much much simpler for the opposition to defend against us Lambert - (i) corrected, bravo; (ii) incredibly persisting with the same mistake Simple and elementary We're three weeks in, let's wait and see eh?
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 3, 2018 18:55:44 GMT
So you mean to say that he has not been following football for the past 20 years and is yet to learn that Crouch is not the player you need when you are winning 0-1 up away at half time and need to hit the opponents on the break in the second half ?!!!! Do you need more than 3 weeks to realize that Crouch is just about as pacey and mobile as a Galapagos turtle !!!! So you expect one manager to pick up where another left off and make 180 degree turn with more or less the same squad Swansea have.
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Post by malteser68 on Feb 3, 2018 18:57:04 GMT
From what I've seen so far this season i believe that most of us here would have made a far better job than the managers (mainly Hughes) have done so far No rocket science, no Einstein stuff just some simple logic Hughes - (i) stop the fuckin stupidity of playing 3 at the back when we had NO WINGBACKS at the Club, an insane decision which reflects in our disastrous GD; (ii) stop playing Crouch from the 1st minute as you only make it much much simpler for the opposition to defend against us Lambert - (i) corrected, bravo; (ii) incredibly persisting with the same mistake Simple and elementary We're three weeks in, let's wait and see eh? There's not much to see - today's mistakes were elementary
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 3, 2018 18:57:26 GMT
You can't have it both ways though. It was said by both the club and Lambert that in his interview he knew implicitly the strengths and weaknesses of the squad and that he spelled out clearly his plans going forwards. Once you are in that territory there is very little wiggle room for any errors like what we've seen over the last two games. He deserves our backing absolutely. He is not immune from criticism though. Ohh I’ll still back him You called him a useless jock cunt and a dumb jock bastard on the game thread. Embarrassing
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 3, 2018 18:57:47 GMT
I'm bitterly disappointed but now after a loss he owes no loyalty to any team member and can pick his team from scratch.
I expect quite a few changes for the next match.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 3, 2018 18:59:21 GMT
Utterly woeful management today , achieved our worst ever result in our premier league history at Bournemouth . All this shit about he knows our players did his homework , a bloke who has lived on mars knows Crouch shouldn’t start away , the subs were awful , and a Greek bloke in midfield signed as a left back as stupid as any Hughes move in 4 years .
Still what did we Expect we picked the cheapest option with an eye on who would stay in the championship and we’ve got him .
Having said all that Butlnd deserves his share waving , shouting and posturing but hopeless on the second goal , said it before needs dropping
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 3, 2018 19:02:36 GMT
I'm bitterly disappointed but now after a loss he owes no loyalty to any team member and can pick his team from scratch. I expect quite a few changes for the next match. Is there anyone who didn't play today that you'd back to come in and improve us though? I'm sure Diouf will be back - but him aside, suppose the only candidates are Stafylidis, Ramadan and Indi? You can't bring Adam and Fletcher back in. Wimmer? Berahino? Ireland? Jese? Afellay? Can't see it.
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Post by oatcakesteve on Feb 3, 2018 19:03:52 GMT
Utterly woeful management today , achieved our worst ever result in our premier league history at Bournemouth . All this shit about he knows our players did his homework , a bloke who has lived on mars knows Crouch shouldn’t start away , the subs were awful , and a Greek bloke in midfield signed as a left back as stupid as any Hughes move in 4 years . Still what did we Expect we picked the cheapest option with an eye on who would stay in the championship and we’ve got him . Having said all that Butlnd deserves his share waving , shouting and posturing but hopeless on the second goal , said it before needs dropping Butland needs dropping? Oh dear.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 3, 2018 19:05:11 GMT
He seems a decent bloke but stay up or go down he has to be sacked and replaced by someone with a long term vision for the club.
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Post by oatcakesteve on Feb 3, 2018 19:07:25 GMT
He seems a decent bloke but stay up or go down he has to be sacked and replaced by someone with a long term vision for the club. Yay, let's get Tony back in.
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Post by chamberlain on Feb 3, 2018 19:12:39 GMT
Utterly woeful management today , achieved our worst ever result in our premier league history at Bournemouth . All this shit about he knows our players did his homework , a bloke who has lived on mars knows Crouch shouldn’t start away , the subs were awful , and a Greek bloke in midfield signed as a left back as stupid as any Hughes move in 4 years . Still what did we Expect we picked the cheapest option with an eye on who would stay in the championship and we’ve got him . Having said all that Butlnd deserves his share waving , shouting and posturing but hopeless on the second goal , said it before needs dropping Achieved our worst ever premier league result , what the fuck are you on
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 3, 2018 19:13:12 GMT
He seems a decent bloke but stay up or go down he has to be sacked and replaced by someone with a long term vision for the club. Yay, let's get Tony back in. No. Graham Potter if we go down. Whoevers decent and available if we stay up. That won't solve the problem of the board though. Scholes has to go. Coates needs to step aside. And below that, the Leek Town goalie (I've genuinely forgotten his name) has to go too. We need a root and branch overhaul.
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Post by mickmacc on Feb 3, 2018 19:16:44 GMT
We need to beat Brighton. It’s pretty much that simple.... We will. I agree. We will
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