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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 16:19:06 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 21, 2018 16:19:06 GMT
I'm guessing the 1 in 5 includes 18 months at right back. So that's bollocks. Yup, as I have already said so well done for that, but you can’t argue with “big chances” missed though, try as you no doubt will. I couldn't give a fuck as long as he bangs 10-15. The others wouldn't do that.
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 16:21:57 GMT
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Post by adi on Jan 21, 2018 16:21:57 GMT
Yup, as I have already said so well done for that, but you can’t argue with “big chances” missed though, try as you no doubt will. I couldn't give a fuck as long as he bangs 10-15. The others wouldn't do that. So just to sort of recap what I was saying, the reason fans get frustrated is partly down to how many big chances he misses, that was what I was getting at. I also, as I imagine we all do, hope that he scores 10-15 a season.
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 16:22:10 GMT
Post by scfc75 on Jan 21, 2018 16:22:10 GMT
Over what period of time are these 'big chance' stats? Premier league games. That doesn't answer the question though..over what period of time? Career?
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 16:31:01 GMT
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Post by adi on Jan 21, 2018 16:31:01 GMT
That doesn't answer the question though..over what period of time? Career? Yea I think so, off the premier league website. It was more to highlight the source of frustration for fans, and while I understand that 1in5 heavily involved him being played out of position it just shows how many more shots he’s needed to get goals.
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 16:37:19 GMT
Post by scfc75 on Jan 21, 2018 16:37:19 GMT
That doesn't answer the question though..over what period of time? Career? Yea I think so, off the premier league website. It was more to highlight the source of frustration for fans, and while I understand that 1in5 heavily involved him being played out of position it just shows how many more shots he’s needed to get goals. Cheers... I just couldn't get my head around the numbers. It sounded an awful lot of big misses for one season, but not a lot at all for a whole career like Crouch has had.
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 16:40:20 GMT
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Post by adi on Jan 21, 2018 16:40:20 GMT
Yea I think so, off the premier league website. It was more to highlight the source of frustration for fans, and while I understand that 1in5 heavily involved him being played out of position it just shows how many more shots he’s needed to get goals. Cheers... I just couldn't get my head around the numbers. It sounded an awful lot of big misses for one season, but not a lot at all for a whole career like Crouch has had. Yea exactly my point mate.
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 16:46:31 GMT
Post by jamo1905 on Jan 21, 2018 16:46:31 GMT
Would love to see him hitting channels more allowing Choupo and Shaq to come inside
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 21, 2018 17:08:04 GMT
110% every game but if he could finish he would be world class. He nearly missed his goal yesterday. How the fuck do you “ nearly”miss a goal? He put it away, end of.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 17:15:36 GMT
110% every game but if he could finish he would be world class. He nearly missed his goal yesterday. 😂😂😂 Even when he scores he's critised. You just couldn't make it up.
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 19:33:34 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 19:33:34 GMT
I couldn't give a fuck as long as he bangs 10-15. The others wouldn't do that. So just to sort of recap what I was saying, the reason fans get frustrated is partly down to how many big chances he misses, that was what I was getting at. I also, as I imagine we all do, hope that he scores 10-15 a season. can you define what a "big chance" is please?
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 19:37:28 GMT
Post by numpty40 on Jan 21, 2018 19:37:28 GMT
So just to sort of recap what I was saying, the reason fans get frustrated is partly down to how many big chances he misses, that was what I was getting at. I also, as I imagine we all do, hope that he scores 10-15 a season. can you define what a "big chance" is please? I'm looking forward to the reply
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jan 21, 2018 19:43:01 GMT
I've said it a million times on here over the years & I'm happy to say it again... I fucking love Diouf, he wears his heart on his sleeve & gives his all. Bollocks to you lot who're knocking him, I think he's ace.
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Post by Gunslinger on Jan 21, 2018 20:08:05 GMT
According to the official site the statistics are as follows for this season:
Diouf: Total shots - 32 Shots on target - 13 Goals - 5 Conversion rate - 16% Mins per goal - 349.8
Crouch: Total shots - 9 Shots on target - 4 Goals - 3 Conversion rate - 33% Mins per goal - 308.7
You could interpret the statistics in many ways. Some might say that Crouch is twice as effective (conversion rate) and has less minutes per goal than Diouf. Others might say that Diouf more often manage to get in a position to shoot and has scored more goals than Crouch. But: Crouch has been used as a striker while Diouf has been used as both RWB and a striker. If you look at the statistics from the '14/15-season then Diouf had a mins per goal of approx. 280. In other words: He might not be the most effective striker on planet earth, but he has the ability to get in position and he could potentially score more goals if used properly.
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 20:37:43 GMT
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Post by adi on Jan 21, 2018 20:37:43 GMT
So just to sort of recap what I was saying, the reason fans get frustrated is partly down to how many big chances he misses, that was what I was getting at. I also, as I imagine we all do, hope that he scores 10-15 a season. can you define what a "big chance" is please? No problem: Big Chance A situation where a player should reasonably be expected to score usually in a one-on-one scenario or from very close range.
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 20:42:09 GMT
Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 21, 2018 20:42:09 GMT
I've said it a million times on here over the years & I'm happy to say it again... I fucking love Diouf, he wears his heart on his sleeve & gives his all. Bollocks to you lot who're knocking him, I think he's ace. I think Diouf "suits" us, in that we are more effective and dangerous when he plays. It's not always about technical ability,it's how someone fits.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 21, 2018 20:44:41 GMT
According to the official site the statistics are as follows for this season: Diouf: Total shots - 32 Shots on target - 13 Goals - 5 Conversion rate - 16% Mins per goal - 349.8 Crouch: Total shots - 9 Shots on target - 4 Goals - 3 Conversion rate - 33% Mins per goal - 308.7 You could interpret the statistics in many ways. Some might say that Crouch is twice as effective (conversion rate) and has less minutes per goal than Diouf. Others might say that Diouf more often manage to get in a position to shoot and has scored more goals than Crouch. But: Crouch has been used as a striker while Diouf has been used as both RWB and a striker. If you look at the statistics from the '14/15-season then Diouf had a mins per goal of approx. 280. In other words: He might not be the most effective striker on planet earth, but he has the ability to get in position and he could potentially score more goals if used properly. He also scored a perfectly good goal against Chelsea that was disallowed, and it was also his header that led to our second goal away to Man City. He won't be credited that one, but he is still the man that makes it happen.
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 21, 2018 20:48:11 GMT
I also like how he's become a right stroppy fucker, when he was subbed Saturday a Huddersfield player tried to hurry him off the pitch, Diouf was ready to fight him.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 21, 2018 20:52:35 GMT
He isn't without fault but when he plays opposition defenders know they've been in a game.
That has always made him a favourite of mine.
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Post by Veritas on Jan 21, 2018 20:58:26 GMT
He isn't without fault but when he plays opposition defenders know they've been in a game. That has always made him a favourite of mine. Great effort limited talent but better than the other way round.
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 22:44:14 GMT
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Post by adi on Jan 21, 2018 22:44:14 GMT
Looking at the stats, which paint s picture, show that diouf has missed 37 “big chances” compared to crouch who has played many many more games has only missed 47 “big chances” and scores 1in4, whilst diouf is a 1in5 striker. Compared to someone like benteke who whilst frustrating Palace fans is still an impressive 1in2.5 goals a game. His position on the wing or rwb is irrelevant when it comes to missing big chances because they’re taken as being in front of goal. I love diouf but he isn’t nearly clinical enough and that is why fans get frustrated with him. Do you can see why he gets moaned about at times. Hopefully he’ll get a run of games up top and can improve his finishing. How many times has Crouch played right back, right wing? Diouf misses more chances for a reason. It's because he gets in goal scoring positions more than anyone else. I agree, as I keep harping on, it’s the number of efforts required that probably irks people. I love diouf and think he’s our best option for goals right now. I also agree that he does well to work himself into goalscoring positions, even when he’s played out of position. It would be nice if he became more clinical but as others have pointed out that’s why he plays for us and Not United
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Diouf
Jan 22, 2018 23:10:58 GMT
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 22, 2018 23:10:58 GMT
Must be a nightmare to play against. Can drop a shoulder and burst away, challenge in the air, trap it, shank it or undo you with some sublime skill. Unpredictable.
Through his own brand of chaos and crazy runs he creates loads of space for team mates to exploit. When he was firing as a striker more goals came from throughout the ranks. No coincidence, Diouf was in the midst for the goals sat etc. Awkward customer their frustration showed sat with a nasty dig in the kidney at a corner. Dropped him. Typical rubber ball Diouf gave it a rub and proceeded to run it off.
I enjoyed his adventure at wb, perhaps if nowt else it's served to add aspects to his game.
A bit of gelling with Shaq and Chopper and some more slide rule passes and his strike rate mayt improve. Less need for him to dig it out from under his feet. During his purple patch they were going in off his ankles and all sorts, that's a good trait. Nearly got a "Diouf.. there it is.." off the ground on saturday. What was his trigger finger celebration about?
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Diouf
Jan 22, 2018 23:14:25 GMT
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 22, 2018 23:14:25 GMT
He is a bit of a mystery but our best starting striker
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Diouf
Jan 22, 2018 23:18:19 GMT
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Post by Onneravineet on Jan 22, 2018 23:18:19 GMT
According to the official site the statistics are as follows for this season: Diouf: Total shots - 32 Shots on target - 13 Goals - 5 Conversion rate - 16% Mins per goal - 349.8 Crouch: Total shots - 9 Shots on target - 4 Goals - 3 Conversion rate - 33% Mins per goal - 308.7 You could interpret the statistics in many ways. Some might say that Crouch is twice as effective (conversion rate) and has less minutes per goal than Diouf. Others might say that Diouf more often manage to get in a position to shoot and has scored more goals than Crouch. But: Crouch has been used as a striker while Diouf has been used as both RWB and a striker. If you look at the statistics from the '14/15-season then Diouf had a mins per goal of approx. 280. In other words: He might not be the most effective striker on planet earth, but he has the ability to get in position and he could potentially score more goals if used properly. It would be great to see these stats excluding those minutes playing RB/RWB
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