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Post by redwhite on Jan 20, 2018 20:00:36 GMT
People say he’s not a Premier League quality striker, but the facts are that the one season he was played consistently as a striker he scored twelve goals, and when he’s been used there more recently he’s consistently been on the scoresheet. There’s this fallacy that every team should have a 20 goal a season striker, but outside of the top six they pretty much don’t exist. Mame is far from perfect but he’s the best we’ve got by a distance and I’m always happy to have him starting up top. Even that season he was played on the wing a lot, and had time off at the African Cup of Nations. An entire season up front and we'd see 15+ goals out of him, I'm sure of that.
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Post by complimentaryx on Jan 20, 2018 20:15:55 GMT
Harnesses ??
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Diouf
Jan 20, 2018 20:27:35 GMT
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Post by Jimmyg on Jan 20, 2018 20:27:35 GMT
I like him but his finishing is below par for a prem striker. He even made that one on one today look more difficult than it should have been. Would like another cf with diouf as backup or as partner. He seems better when he's given no time to think hmm dont know..he showed a great touch to get the ball in a position to strike,anyway its 1 in 1 under lambert so has to start next game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 20:38:27 GMT
Considering how many of his games for us have been played anywhere but as a nine, his goals tally isn't really so bad. But he does need to be playing there, centrally, for a run of games, which is what he has very rarely had. Give him another 14 for the rest of the season and he could give us 8 or more goals.
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Jan 20, 2018 20:40:06 GMT
Post by senojbor on Jan 20, 2018 20:40:06 GMT
I've always thought he's our best bet at CF Put it this way though if we had a 20 goal a season CF in this league he wouldn't be here very long. We need goals from other too.
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Post by teenagefanclub on Jan 20, 2018 20:52:01 GMT
Sorted it now, bloody auto correct
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Jan 20, 2018 22:06:49 GMT
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Jan 20, 2018 22:06:49 GMT
If Diouf plays through the middle for the rest of the season he'll probably net 10 plus goals.
We do need a striker but he's more than capable for the time being. Hughes' treatment of him was strange to say the least.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 22:22:05 GMT
I like him but his finishing is below par for a prem striker. He even made that one on one today look more difficult than it should have been. Would like another cf with diouf as backup or as partner. He seems better when he's given no time to think I despair. It was a great finish. Bloody hell fire what do you want? Spot on. He gave the keeper no chance. Some bloke behind me was still giving him shit after he'd scored saying he's wank and that he tried his best to miss when he scored. Some football fans really are thick as pig shit.
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Jan 20, 2018 23:01:41 GMT
Post by Scrotnig on Jan 20, 2018 23:01:41 GMT
People moan about him but as others have stated he'll score 10 or more a season if plays all the time. This is certainly a better return than anyone else we've got, so he might as well play. He's far better than we give him credit for and I reckon if he starts the rest of the season he'll pull...I reckon...8 goals in that time.
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Jan 20, 2018 23:04:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 23:04:10 GMT
Keep him up from and he will score goals, yes he will miss chances but he always puts himself in positions to score.
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Jan 20, 2018 23:35:51 GMT
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Post by Onneravineet on Jan 20, 2018 23:35:51 GMT
Runs Harrasses Never stops Frustrates Scores Well done Mame Two morons sat near us moaned their bag off all day.. Even when he scored “he nearly missed that”
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Post by kustokie on Jan 20, 2018 23:45:19 GMT
Runs Harrasses Never stops Frustrates Scores Well done Mame Two morons sat near us moaned their bag off all day.. Even when he scored “he nearly missed that” Typical Stoke fans - never happier than when they’re having a good moan.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 23:45:51 GMT
Love him. I really do. He puts the same effort in at right wing back (just remember our top scorer played there) as he does up top Amazingly his pressing up front results in defensive mistakes. I don’t like the misses chances argument. Who else gets the chances to miss. It’s s real coincidence that our best striker gets in the best positions to miss the “best” chances. He’s miles ahead of anything we have. And not much behind anything we can afford. Play him as a fuxking striker. Edit: wouldn’t mind a stats tachyon input I know his bundesliga form was excellent. I’m confident he’s our best striker (when played). I’m confident he finishes about level with what he should. I’m on phone so can someone tag tachyon as I don’t think it worked By my word I love mame
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Post by kustokie on Jan 20, 2018 23:49:10 GMT
If Diouf plays through the middle for the rest of the season he'll probably net 10 plus goals. We do need a striker but he's more than capable for the time being. Hughes' treatment of him was strange to say the least. Most of what Hughes did in the past two years was strange. He’s a very strange man - I think that’s been said before by his former owner at Fulham 😜.
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Jan 20, 2018 23:51:35 GMT
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Post by robstokie on Jan 20, 2018 23:51:35 GMT
Can't fault him today - did the hard yards pressing them high up, made intelligent runs that put the shitters up their centre halfs and thus created spaces for those behind him to exploit and, of course, got his goal. His first touch is atrocious but he does have a knack of getting himself into the right position at the right time. If Lambert gives him a run up top alarm Sparky in Dioufys first season, he will hit double figures over the course of the season.
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Jan 21, 2018 0:14:40 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 21, 2018 0:14:40 GMT
He's the best we have, he runs himself into the ground every game, a proper modern day Stoke legend.
He's still better on the right though.
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Jan 21, 2018 0:20:12 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 0:20:12 GMT
He's the best we have, he runs himself into the ground every game, a proper modern day Stoke legend. He's still better on the right though. Have to really disagree here. Re: on the right hes wasted there. Does his job. Tries. Does his job. He doesn’t have the beat your man skills to play there. Or the final ball tbh hes got enough (not to comparein the same bracket but aguero style) to shift around his feet to hit it and can find a finish its not a coincidence he misses chances crouch or anyone else never gets
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 21, 2018 0:32:59 GMT
If Lambert intends to employ this system on a regular basis - which I hope he does - then Diouf is presently the key. It's partly about his knack of being in the right place to create chances and his pace, but principally about his work rate off the ball. We're pressing from the front, and you need a quick, burly player with lots of stamina and a phenomenal work rate leading the line in order to do that. He's almost tailor made for the role.
Once again, Lambert picked a player to play in a role that emphasised all of his strengths and exposed none of his weaknesses. His physical power, pace and presence were made useful, and his technical shortcomings didn't come into play.
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Jan 21, 2018 0:34:31 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 0:34:31 GMT
Sounds similar to a Benteke lad he had st villa
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Jan 21, 2018 7:48:51 GMT
We’re a fickle bunch of bastards. He gets slated one week and lauded the next.
The bloke works his arse off in whatever position he gets played. When he’s played up front, where he should be, he gets more chances than any other stoke player.
He misses a few but if he didn’t he’d be elsewhere.
Open your fucking eyes people. He’s Stokes best CF option & will score 12-15 a season.
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Post by HappyClapper on Jan 21, 2018 8:03:27 GMT
Can't help but love the bloke. Always give his all. Took his goal well. He is our best striker at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 8:08:06 GMT
I could never understand why Hughes put him as wingback, sold Joselu and never strengthened either position freeing Diouf to play as striker, even if only as a sub
This is what helped to doom Hughes Pulisesque square pegs and no apples dropping
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Post by adi on Jan 21, 2018 10:21:14 GMT
Looking at the stats, which paint s picture, show that diouf has missed 37 “big chances” compared to crouch who has played many many more games has only missed 47 “big chances” and scores 1in4, whilst diouf is a 1in5 striker. Compared to someone like benteke who whilst frustrating Palace fans is still an impressive 1in2.5 goals a game. His position on the wing or rwb is irrelevant when it comes to missing big chances because they’re taken as being in front of goal.
I love diouf but he isn’t nearly clinical enough and that is why fans get frustrated with him. Do you can see why he gets moaned about at times. Hopefully he’ll get a run of games up top and can improve his finishing.
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Jan 21, 2018 10:24:21 GMT
Post by JoeinOz on Jan 21, 2018 10:24:21 GMT
He led the line really well and scored. Good work Dioufy. More the same next time please.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 10:25:54 GMT
Looking at the stats, which paint s picture, show that diouf has missed 37 “big chances” compared to crouch who has played many many more games has only missed 47 “big chances” and scores 1in4, whilst diouf is a 1in5 striker. Compared to someone like benteke who whilst frustrating Palace fans is still an impressive 1in2.5 goals a game. His position on the wing or rwb is irrelevant when it comes to missing big chances because they’re taken as being in front of goal. I love diouf but he isn’t nearly clinical enough and that is why fans get frustrated with him. Do you can see why he gets moaned about at times. Hopefully he’ll get a run of games up top and can improve his finishing. How many times has Crouch played right back, right wing? Diouf misses more chances for a reason. It's because he gets in goal scoring positions more than anyone else.
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Jan 21, 2018 10:28:24 GMT
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 21, 2018 10:28:24 GMT
Looking at the stats, which paint s picture, show that diouf has missed 37 “big chances” compared to crouch who has played many many more games has only missed 47 “big chances” and scores 1in4, whilst diouf is a 1in5 striker. Compared to someone like benteke who whilst frustrating Palace fans is still an impressive 1in2.5 goals a game. His position on the wing or rwb is irrelevant when it comes to missing big chances because they’re taken as being in front of goal. I love diouf but he isn’t nearly clinical enough and that is why fans get frustrated with him. Do you can see why he gets moaned about at times. Hopefully he’ll get a run of games up top and can improve his finishing. Where are these stats from ???
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Jan 21, 2018 10:30:18 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 21, 2018 10:30:18 GMT
Looking at the stats, which paint s picture, show that diouf has missed 37 “big chances” compared to crouch who has played many many more games has only missed 47 “big chances” and scores 1in4, whilst diouf is a 1in5 striker. Compared to someone like benteke who whilst frustrating Palace fans is still an impressive 1in2.5 goals a game. His position on the wing or rwb is irrelevant when it comes to missing big chances because they’re taken as being in front of goal. I love diouf but he isn’t nearly clinical enough and that is why fans get frustrated with him. Do you can see why he gets moaned about at times. Hopefully he’ll get a run of games up top and can improve his finishing. I'm guessing the 1 in 5 includes 18 months at right back. So that's bollocks.
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Jan 21, 2018 10:30:21 GMT
Post by scfc75 on Jan 21, 2018 10:30:21 GMT
Looking at the stats, which paint s picture, show that diouf has missed 37 “big chances” compared to crouch who has played many many more games has only missed 47 “big chances” and scores 1in4, whilst diouf is a 1in5 striker. Compared to someone like benteke who whilst frustrating Palace fans is still an impressive 1in2.5 goals a game. His position on the wing or rwb is irrelevant when it comes to missing big chances because they’re taken as being in front of goal. I love diouf but he isn’t nearly clinical enough and that is why fans get frustrated with him. Do you can see why he gets moaned about at times. Hopefully he’ll get a run of games up top and can improve his finishing. Over what period of time are these 'big chance' stats?
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Jan 21, 2018 10:36:21 GMT
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Post by peekay67 on Jan 21, 2018 10:36:21 GMT
Andy Cole was a 1 in 7 CF. We expect to much.
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Post by OldStokie on Jan 21, 2018 11:16:41 GMT
Love Dioufy. Always gives 100% and never shirks his responsiblities. As others have said, his shooting is at best erratic, but if he scored half the chances he gets he would be too expensive to play for Stoke. Yesterday he was immense. He was kicked from pillar to post and I lost count of the number of times their defenders took him out with a shoulder into his back. But despite that, he still won most of his headers. That twat Oliver hardly ever gave him any protection. I'll bet Dioufy is having a hot bath now to soothe his bruises. He'll have a grin on his face though. Lucky bugger! Two inches to the left and that shot would have rebounded out instead of finishing up in the net. OS.
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