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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 21, 2018 11:17:55 GMT
Love Dioufy. Always gives 100% and never shirks his responsiblities. As others have said, his shooting is at best erratic, but if he scored half the chances he gets he would be too expensive to play for Stoke. Yesterday he was immense. He was kicked from pillar to post and I lost count of the number of times their defenders took him out with a shoulder into his back. But despite that, he still won most of his headers. That twat Oliver hardly ever gave him any protection. I'll bet Dioufy is having a hot bath now to soothe his bruises. He'll have a grin on his face though. Lucky bugger! Two inches to the left and that shot would have rebounded out instead of finishing up in the net. OS. Yep. He did his best to miss it!!
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Post by fca47 on Jan 21, 2018 11:21:14 GMT
He's not a top quality CF, but I don't think we could afford one
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 21, 2018 11:26:58 GMT
Diouf is fine for us, I happen to think he's a lot better than he gets credit for.
He needs to start every game and he needs to start up front, not in any of the other strange positions Hughes played him in. I was half expecting him to be named in goal when Jack got crocked again!
Diouf will score substantially upwards of ten goals a season if he starts every game. That's more than anyone else will manage, at the very least.
I'm a bit of a Diouf fan. Does it show?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 11:39:16 GMT
Love him but we need better. All the attitude but half the talent, just wish to god he could take a touch or finish with any relative consistency. I think we can get better but he's an excellent backup.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 21, 2018 11:44:52 GMT
Diouf is fine for us, I happen to think he's a lot better than he gets credit for. He needs to start every game and he needs to start up front, not in any of the other strange positions Hughes played him in. I was half expecting him to be named in goal when Jack got crocked again! Diouf will score substantially upwards of ten goals a season if he starts every game. That's more than anyone else will manage, at the very least. I'm a bit of a Diouf fan. Does it show? He's the best mobile striker we have, the other viable options are either Crouch or a winger playing out of position plus he always gives his all for our club.
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Jan 21, 2018 11:45:42 GMT
Post by crapslinger on Jan 21, 2018 11:45:42 GMT
Love him but we need better. All the attitude but half the talent, just wish to god he could take a touch or finish with any relative consistency. I think we can get better but he's an excellent backup. He's 12 million times better than Berahino
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 11:50:00 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 11:50:00 GMT
Love him but we need better. All the attitude but half the talent, just wish to god he could take a touch or finish with any relative consistency. I think we can get better but he's an excellent backup. He's 12 million times better than Berahino No idea if thats true because I haven't seen Berahino start 2 in a row.
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Jan 21, 2018 11:51:49 GMT
Post by crapslinger on Jan 21, 2018 11:51:49 GMT
He's 12 million times better than Berahino No idea if thats true because I haven't seen Berahino start 2 in a row. Any idea why that might be, sure he started more than two in a row last season must be losing my memory
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 21, 2018 11:53:18 GMT
Mame will be the reason we stay up, if we stay up, which I expect us to do! He's the heartbeat of the team!
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Jan 21, 2018 11:54:41 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 11:54:41 GMT
No idea if thats true because I haven't seen Berahino start 2 in a row. Any idea why that might be, sure he started more than two in a row last season must be losing my memory Because Hughes was in love with Crouch. You're well aware he wasn't fit. No point having this argument because you have your mind made up. Let's not waste space on the thread
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Post by Theninjabadger on Jan 21, 2018 12:00:17 GMT
Looking at the stats, which paint s picture, show that diouf has missed 37 “big chances” compared to crouch who has played many many more games has only missed 47 “big chances” and scores 1in4, whilst diouf is a 1in5 striker. Compared to someone like benteke who whilst frustrating Palace fans is still an impressive 1in2.5 goals a game. His position on the wing or rwb is irrelevant when it comes to missing big chances because they’re taken as being in front of goal. I love diouf but he isn’t nearly clinical enough and that is why fans get frustrated with him. Do you can see why he gets moaned about at times. Hopefully he’ll get a run of games up top and can improve his finishing. How many times has Crouch played right back, right wing? Diouf misses more chances for a reason. It's because he gets in goal scoring positions more than anyone else. Correct. If Diouff was a clinical finisher he wouldn’t be at stoke. Every game he plays in he always gets a least of couple of decent chances. He might not finish them but he never goes hiding. He has pace, power, decent in the air and will run himself into the ground. Until he spend a fucking large sum on a forward that has all of Diouff’s attributes as well as being a clinical finisher, Mame is the best option he have
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Post by miggoscfc on Jan 21, 2018 12:08:56 GMT
Not a premiership striker for me but he's the best we've got currently Tries his bollocks off but misses far too often and I hate the way he goes down so easy Couldn't disagree more play him up to all season he will score 10-15 goals a season which is above average for a premier league striker. For all the talk of a 15-20 goal a season striker go look at the last 20 years of goal scorers in this league, outside if the top 6 a 15 goal a season striker simply doesn't exist only 1 player seems to pop up outside the top 6 Defoe. Other than that players have single seasons of scoring 15 or more and when they do they either drop considerably the following year or get a move to a top 6 club. We need Diouf pushing for that 15 or a replacement that will and then Shaq and Choupo and a no.10 chipping in with 10 a season to be a real threat.
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 12:11:35 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 12:11:35 GMT
That goal at Man City three years ago
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 21, 2018 12:31:50 GMT
What we need is not a replacement for Diouf but good backup for him.
Crouch, lovely man that he is, just isn't quite what's needed, though I'm not saying Crouch has no role here, he does.
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Jan 21, 2018 12:35:28 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Jan 21, 2018 12:35:28 GMT
He's 12 million times better than Berahino No idea if thats true because I haven't seen Berahino start 2 in a row. Think Berahino started at least 10 in a row, and wasn't able to score before he found that hooker! Not sure he scored then either as I've seen no proof of it!
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Post by stokiemarc on Jan 21, 2018 12:37:28 GMT
He needs to massively improve his hold up play and also totally change his technique when chesting the ball. He is the best of our strikers at the moment BUT for me a new Striker would be my top priority now as the midfield 3 and Cameron looked solid yesterday (albeit against poor opposition)
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 12:40:45 GMT
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Post by colinroberts1 on Jan 21, 2018 12:40:45 GMT
What we need is not a replacement for Diouf but good backup for him. Crouch, lovely man that he is, just isn't quite what's needed, though I'm not saying Crouch has no role here, he does. Crouch looks 10xs better when coming on as a sub, he's just more effective used from bench! Everyone apart from Hughes I think saw that. Like Diouf I do đź‘Ťđź‘Ť
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 21, 2018 12:44:06 GMT
What we need is not a replacement for Diouf but good backup for him. Crouch, lovely man that he is, just isn't quite what's needed, though I'm not saying Crouch has no role here, he does. Crouch looks 10xs better when coming on as a sub, he's just more effective used from bench! Everyone apart from Hughes I think saw that. Like Diouf I do đź‘Ťđź‘Ť Yeah, that's what Crouch is very good for. He can turn a game that's not going our way by doing that...or even improve one that IS going our way. Diouf though, all the way, as first choice up front. He is far better than he gets credit for. I believe with with the new manager he will really shine. Watch this space.
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Jan 21, 2018 12:54:50 GMT
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Post by colinroberts1 on Jan 21, 2018 12:54:50 GMT
Crouch looks 10xs better when coming on as a sub, he's just more effective used from bench! Everyone apart from Hughes I think saw that. Like Diouf I do đź‘Ťđź‘Ť Yeah, that's what Crouch is very good for. He can turn a game that's not going our way by doing that...or even improve one that IS going our way. Diouf though, all the way, as first choice up front. He is far better than he gets credit for. I believe with with the new manager he will really shine. Watch this space. Agreed đź‘Ť. Diouf is just infectious, he's not the most talented but he does make space for others. Crouch might not like it but he IS better off bench and probably led to hughes's downfall in the end, every other bugger could see that crouch starting is not the answer.
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 13:05:59 GMT
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Post by Dingdangdoo on Jan 21, 2018 13:05:59 GMT
I like him but his finishing is below par for a prem striker. He even made that one on one today look more difficult than it should have been. Would like another cf with diouf as backup or as partner. He seems better when he's given no time to think The keeper made the angle difficult, he measured the shot and hit the inside of the post. How much more accurate do you want? He made it look easier than it was if anything
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Jan 21, 2018 13:24:44 GMT
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Post by superheroantonius on Jan 21, 2018 13:24:44 GMT
The polar opposite of charlie adam
Quick, Fit as a butchers dog and can run all day long
But lacks quality on The ball
Still, he is like alan shearer compared to berahino, so who cares?
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 13:28:28 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 13:28:28 GMT
No idea if thats true because I haven't seen Berahino start 2 in a row. Think Berahino started at least 10 in a row, and wasn't able to score before he found that hooker! Not sure he scored then either as I've seen no proof of it! Not this season. Innocent until proven guilty. Diouf thread, not a Saido one.
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 13:40:02 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Jan 21, 2018 13:40:02 GMT
Think Berahino started at least 10 in a row, and wasn't able to score before he found that hooker! Not sure he scored then either as I've seen no proof of it! Not this season. Innocent until proven guilty. Diouf thread, not a Saido one. Get rid, hopefully there will be someone taking the chance on Bera. I really don't think he'll ever be an important player for us!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 13:49:47 GMT
Long term he isn't the answer.
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Jan 21, 2018 14:05:44 GMT
Post by trincostokie on Jan 21, 2018 14:05:44 GMT
I love Mame me, and as a tribute to his contribution to edging us a little further away from the cliff face, here's a tune from his home boys, Daara J
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 21, 2018 14:50:45 GMT
I remain convinced that if Diouf is played as a center forward for an entire season, he’s the man to get us around 15 goals. That’s about as decent a haul as a team at our level could hope for if we’re being realistic. Mame has been fucked around beyond measure in the last three years, but his head has never dropped and he’s given it his absolute all wherever he’s been asked to play. He deserves a chance to make the spot his own, and I can’t imagine anyone not wanting the lad to succeed. He’s a fantastic character.
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Jan 21, 2018 15:00:00 GMT
Post by Gunslinger on Jan 21, 2018 15:00:00 GMT
Diouf scored 11 league goals in 34 matches in the '14/15-season. He's not perfect but he has the ability to be at the right plaace at the right time. He never gives up, is strong and is a constant pain for the other team as well. Use him as strike, give him proper service and I'm sure he'll deliever.
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Jan 21, 2018 15:14:38 GMT
Post by kronkie on Jan 21, 2018 15:14:38 GMT
110% every game but if he could finish he would be world class. He nearly missed his goal yesterday.
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 16:16:19 GMT
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Post by adi on Jan 21, 2018 16:16:19 GMT
Looking at the stats, which paint s picture, show that diouf has missed 37 “big chances” compared to crouch who has played many many more games has only missed 47 “big chances” and scores 1in4, whilst diouf is a 1in5 striker. Compared to someone like benteke who whilst frustrating Palace fans is still an impressive 1in2.5 goals a game. His position on the wing or rwb is irrelevant when it comes to missing big chances because they’re taken as being in front of goal. I love diouf but he isn’t nearly clinical enough and that is why fans get frustrated with him. Do you can see why he gets moaned about at times. Hopefully he’ll get a run of games up top and can improve his finishing. Over what period of time are these 'big chance' stats? Premier league games.
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Diouf
Jan 21, 2018 16:17:25 GMT
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Post by adi on Jan 21, 2018 16:17:25 GMT
Looking at the stats, which paint s picture, show that diouf has missed 37 “big chances” compared to crouch who has played many many more games has only missed 47 “big chances” and scores 1in4, whilst diouf is a 1in5 striker. Compared to someone like benteke who whilst frustrating Palace fans is still an impressive 1in2.5 goals a game. His position on the wing or rwb is irrelevant when it comes to missing big chances because they’re taken as being in front of goal. I love diouf but he isn’t nearly clinical enough and that is why fans get frustrated with him. Do you can see why he gets moaned about at times. Hopefully he’ll get a run of games up top and can improve his finishing. I'm guessing the 1 in 5 includes 18 months at right back. So that's bollocks. Yup, as I have already said so well done for that, but you can’t argue with “big chances” missed though, try as you no doubt will.
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